8 Skiers dead after accidental Avalanche in California!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

So go hire Fauci.

Or never follow the money trail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

So go hire Fauci.

Or never follow the money trail.

St. Fauci, you heretic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For another perspective, read this article from Outside: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/tahoe-avalanche-truckee-memorial-moms/

This is some duuumb self-congratulatory rationalization.

What's dumb about it?

What’s intelligent about it?

Notice how the author reduces these women to just "moms". I'm sure they would hate that since so much of this is about not losing their sense of self and not just being wives, mothers, employees, sense of self, freedom.. But, this author just calls them 'moms'. The same women would probably bristle if the pediatrician walked in the exam room and just referred to them as "mom" during a child's appointment, instead of bothering to learn her name.

That would be great to list the profession of each of these moms in every article. Would remind everyone of their intelligence and degrees.

Would it?

Their kids just had a week off for Ski Week/ prez day weekend, and then the following week they also took off for this trip.

Must have a cool profession and role indeed!

The accident occurred during "ski week".

Double check that PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

Go back to 4chan

Never been there. First, you say listen to the experts. Then you blame them for listening to the experts and not asking questions. You can't have it both ways.

DP here - I agree with you. People on this thread are coming down HARD on the skiers for blindly taking the advice of the guides, but in reality, most people would have done the same thing. Our society has set up a system where people don't think for themselves, be it skiing down a mountain or taking a vaccine or taking a certain medication.

(And for the record, I am a huge supporter of vaccines. I am fully vaccinated. But I think people who do their own research (actual research, not TikTok) should be applauded, not derided).

I disagree. Most intelligent people take the time to read weather reports before taking a trip and would cancel or postpone if especially heavy snowfall or hurricanes were predicted.

Agree, I always want people’s major decisions substantiated and their to know their premises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

Go back to 4chan

Never been there. First, you say listen to the experts. Then you blame them for listening to the experts and not asking questions. You can't have it both ways.

I’m not blaming them for listening to their guides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For another perspective, read this article from Outside: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/tahoe-avalanche-truckee-memorial-moms/

This is some duuumb self-congratulatory rationalization.

What's dumb about it?

What’s intelligent about it?

Notice how the author reduces these women to just "moms". I'm sure they would hate that since so much of this is about not losing their sense of self and not just being wives, mothers, employees, sense of self, freedom.. But, this author just calls them 'moms'. The same women would probably bristle if the pediatrician walked in the exam room and just referred to them as "mom" during a child's appointment, instead of bothering to learn her name.

That would be great to list the profession of each of these moms in every article. Would remind everyone of their intelligence and degrees.

Would it?

Their kids just had a week off for Ski Week/ prez day weekend, and then the following week they also took off for this trip.

Must have a cool profession and role indeed!

The accident occurred during "ski week".

Double check that PP.

That PP is correct. The avalanche was 2/17. Presidents Day, which is the first weekday of “ski week” was 2/16. The avalanche happened during ski week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You forgot the judgmental cows who have nothing better to do than trash these dead women.

OMG what a misogynistic term! What is wrong with you?!

Yeah and I’d bet it’s men (or trolls) who are doing the trashing. What kind of self-respecting mother would do that? I don’t care if I would or wouldn’t make the same choice these women did, it’s a tragedy that they’re dead, along with the others. That’s all that needs to be said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

I can 100% guarantee you I think these women (along with all the men) were as stupid as any climber (male or female) who attempts to scale Mt Everest, taking advantage of Sherpas to get there. As well as the idiot who just climbed Taipei 101, not to mention the people who kill themselves on El Capitan. Not sure why people think we shouldn't discuss this case just because it was mostly women, who did a dumb thing, like many men do. Acting like we can't talk about it is weird.

You can talk about it if you can manage not to be a disrespectful ahole. Or is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You forgot the judgmental cows who have nothing better to do than trash these dead women.

You must not remember threads about Texas and Tennessee floods, Florida and Gulf Coast hurricanes, tornadoes in north Alabama, etc.

They trash all kinds of victims with unhinged speculations.

And by they you mean people who never leave their parents’ basements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

Go back to 4chan

Never been there. First, you say listen to the experts. Then you blame them for listening to the experts and not asking questions. You can't have it both ways.

DP here - I agree with you. People on this thread are coming down HARD on the skiers for blindly taking the advice of the guides, but in reality, most people would have done the same thing. Our society has set up a system where people don't think for themselves, be it skiing down a mountain or taking a vaccine or taking a certain medication.

(And for the record, I am a huge supporter of vaccines. I am fully vaccinated. But I think people who do their own research (actual research, not TikTok) should be applauded, not derided).

I disagree. Most intelligent people take the time to read weather reports before taking a trip and would cancel or postpone if especially heavy snowfall or hurricanes were predicted.

Are you posting from somewhere in Alabama? I don’t think you understand what weather forecasts look like in that area at that time of year. Or anywhere in the mountains, for that matter.

Along those lines, do you think your opinion is more valid than the people who actually participate in back country skiing? If so, why? If not, maybe no one needs to hear what you have to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

I hold parents to a higher standard when it comes to risk taking. You have responsibilities.

Do you eat processed foods? If so, why don’t you take better care of your health? Do you drink alcohol? Are you not aware of how bad for your body that is? I could go on and on, but to listen to you people judge these skiers from your armchairs with your Diet Coke in hand is obnoxious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

Go back to 4chan

Never been there. First, you say listen to the experts. Then you blame them for listening to the experts and not asking questions. You can't have it both ways.

DP here - I agree with you. People on this thread are coming down HARD on the skiers for blindly taking the advice of the guides, but in reality, most people would have done the same thing. Our society has set up a system where people don't think for themselves, be it skiing down a mountain or taking a vaccine or taking a certain medication.

(And for the record, I am a huge supporter of vaccines. I am fully vaccinated. But I think people who do their own research (actual research, not TikTok) should be applauded, not derided).

I disagree. Most intelligent people take the time to read weather reports before taking a trip and would cancel or postpone if especially heavy snowfall or hurricanes were predicted.

Are you posting from somewhere in Alabama? I don’t think you understand what weather forecasts look like in that area at that time of year. Or anywhere in the mountains, for that matter.

Along those lines, do you think your opinion is more valid than the people who actually participate in back country skiing? If so, why? If not, maybe no one needs to hear what you have to say.

The truth clearly hit on your nerves. A back country skier defending the risks. (And, no, I'm not in Alabama.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For another perspective, read this article from Outside: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/tahoe-avalanche-truckee-memorial-moms/

This is some duuumb self-congratulatory rationalization.

What's dumb about it?

What’s intelligent about it?

Notice how the author reduces these women to just "moms". I'm sure they would hate that since so much of this is about not losing their sense of self and not just being wives, mothers, employees, sense of self, freedom.. But, this author just calls them 'moms'. The same women would probably bristle if the pediatrician walked in the exam room and just referred to them as "mom" during a child's appointment, instead of bothering to learn her name.

That would be great to list the profession of each of these moms in every article. Would remind everyone of their intelligence and degrees.

Would it?

Their kids just had a week off for Ski Week/ prez day weekend, and then the following week they also took off for this trip.

Must have a cool profession and role indeed!

The accident occurred during "ski week".

Double check that PP.

That PP is correct. The avalanche was 2/17. Presidents Day, which is the first weekday of “ski week” was 2/16. The avalanche happened during ski week.

Extreme weather warnings had been out for a week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For another perspective, read this article from Outside: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/tahoe-avalanche-truckee-memorial-moms/

IMO when you choose to have children you also choose to put their needs ahead of yours. You need to try to stay alive. This whole “I’m a better mom when I’m happy” is just a BS excuse to do whatever you want. This is what made mom happy is cold comfort to a child without a parent. When they go to college you can carry on as you like.

+1 So very true!!

Right! You can still go cycling just do it on a path instead of the road. Swim in the ocean, where they have life guards. Climb well traveled rock walls with ropes instead of free climbing. People act like it’s some and knit or nothing. Having people you love and people who love you in your life requires that you consider them and how your actions and choices affect them. It’s called being an adult.

This is not the ethos of the men and women that live in the west. I lived in a western state and the women were really really rugged.

It's a small minority. And they get hit by cars cycling, eaten by sharks open swimming, fall off cliffs, and all the normal things that happen to rugged men. It's certainly a choice but it's not one we have to celebrate.

It's even a smaller percentage that have these accidents.

If it's worth the risk to you to leave behind your spouse and kids to thrill seek, have at it. Meanwhile the rest of us will judge.

I think your judgment is the last thing on their minds but clearly makes you feel superior.