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New York Times Warns How Trump’s Iran War Lies Could Backfire, And Badly
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-york-times-editorial-board-trump-iran_n_69c0d6d6e4b0838d9663cc5e?d_id=11691425&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=threads&utm_campaign=us_main |
"Israel's claim" = Right into the 🗑️ |
Why are Israelis so brainwashed? Iran is not even the top 5 problem they have. If Iran gets carpet bombed or nuked tomorrow, Hezbollah and houthis in Lebanon and Yemen and Hamas will still fight them. This is all to do with the Palestinians so why not be pragmatic and make a two state solution/camp David accords deal like what was once done with Egypt? Egypt was once Israel’s biggest enemy even more than Palestinians and Iran and look at what the peace deal did. It’s obvious that the Muslim world honors deals more than Americans or Israelis do so why not make a deal with the Palestinians? Netanyahu believed camp David accords was the biggest mistake but without camp David, Egypt wouldve been part of 10/7 instead of warning Israel about 10/7. Isn’t negotiation better than ballistic missiles and sirens screeching at every hour? Is there any pragmatic instinct at all with the Israeli right? Yesterday it was Saddam. Today it’s Iran. Tomorrow it will be someone else. The US will eventually grow weary of war and stepping in to fight wars for Israel’s agenda just when Israel will need it the most. It may even be the litmus test for the 2028 candidates. Support for Israel may no longer be a positive trait for candidates especially given Trump may be the last boomer president. I suspect we are going to go so far down the abyss of war and recession that a socialist Democrat super pro Palestinian could be a future president very soon. |
And then when it turns out --once again-- it wasn't Iran, these a-holes go silent. All of the lies told by the US and Israel and still, we have these clowns doing this. I've lost count of all of the lies told by the US and Israel, yet these bloodthirsty warmongers still think we're as disgustingly propagandized as them. |
| I can’t believe the Trump administration compared Venezuela to Iran. Iran was preparing for this for over 20 years. Since we invaded Iraq and said Iran is up next on the axis of evil war tour, they were accelerating and organizing their defenses and military structure. Venezuela was completely caught off guard by this random invasion and there is no context of decades of animus or war threats or sanctions here. Total apples and oranges scenario |
People need to stop trying to guess the evil master plan behind this. There isn’t one, Netanyahu goaded Trump into this thinking if they killed Khameini the regime would fall, when that didn’t happen they started to panic as they can’t back out without some sort of symbolic win. |
NP. I reject the frame that either you or I have to choose between Israel or Iran. I, like the majority of Americans, would prefer to do neither. |
| Will Congress really let the world economy collapse and let chaos reign because they’re afraid to stand up to a petulant 79 year old? This is the democracy we have been force fed to protect and boast about since our childhood? |
Exactly, most Americans would rather choose America be than either foreign nation but unfortunately because of AIPAC, many of our politicians are now Israel first. |
Kushner and all of the Israeli first people surrounding Trump convinced him otherwise |
They're just figuring out how to line their own pockets first. Trump and Co are deliberately stripping the US for parts. |
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Trump announced a break through with negotiations and holding off of the ultimatum announced this past weekend.
Iran: IRANIAN MEDIA SAYS THERE WAS NO DIRECT OR INDIRECT CONTACT WITH TRUMP AND CLAIMS HE WITHDREW AFTER THREATENING TO ATTACK WEST ASIA ENERGY FACILITIES. So basically if Iran is to be believed, Trump is TACO-ing and negotiating with himself. |
They are wrong without the us japan wouldn't exist and China would take it |
It's a pump and dump scheme. He announces escalation over the weekend, buys up stock in the dip, the announces a fake break through, sells when the market is up and isn't left holding the bag when it all turns out to be fake. |
I mean, it’s the dumbest thing I’ve read so far today, but it’s still early. |