Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it always men or former men that get all the attention. Everyone talks about Drag Queens while Drag Kings are virtually ignored. Everyone talks about trans women while trans men are again virtually ignored.

How many trans women lead women organizations compared to trans men who have authority in any male institutions?

Call me a bigot if you want but I’m concerned about this. Women are a protected class for a reason. You shouldn’t be able to just self-identify in it. Just like we all gave Rachel Dolezal crap for identifying as Black. Yes social constructs exist but they have history and meaning for a reason.

With all that said, I still DISAGREE with the drag ban.


You are talking about stuff you don't understand. I would suggest that you spend some time learning more about what it actually means to be transgender.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it always men or former men that get all the attention. Everyone talks about Drag Queens while Drag Kings are virtually ignored. Everyone talks about trans women while trans men are again virtually ignored.

How many trans women lead women organizations compared to trans men who have authority in any male institutions?

Call me a bigot if you want but I’m concerned about this. Women are a protected class for a reason. You shouldn’t be able to just self-identify in it. Just like we all gave Rachel Dolezal crap for identifying as Black. Yes social constructs exist but they have history and meaning for a reason.

With all that said, I still DISAGREE with the drag ban.


You are talking about stuff you don't understand. I would suggest that you spend some time learning more about what it actually means to be transgender.


I disagree. And you haven’t demonstrated that you have anymore understanding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it always men or former men that get all the attention. Everyone talks about Drag Queens while Drag Kings are virtually ignored. Everyone talks about trans women while trans men are again virtually ignored.

How many trans women lead women organizations compared to trans men who have authority in any male institutions?

Call me a bigot if you want but I’m concerned about this. Women are a protected class for a reason. You shouldn’t be able to just self-identify in it. Just like we all gave Rachel Dolezal crap for identifying as Black. Yes social constructs exist but they have history and meaning for a reason.

With all that said, I still DISAGREE with the drag ban.


You are talking about stuff you don't understand. I would suggest that you spend some time learning more about what it actually means to be transgender.


I disagree. And you haven’t demonstrated that you have anymore understanding.


i'm the parent of an actual transgender child, bigot.
Anonymous
Great! You still haven’t demonstrated any knowledge. You’ve only resorted to name-calling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Great! You still haven’t demonstrated any knowledge. You’ve only resorted to name-calling.

It’s all they do. Cancel culture by not allowing ANY questions or dissent. Immediately call someone a racist or bigot and you don’t have to defend your beliefs with evidence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Great! You still haven’t demonstrated any knowledge. You’ve only resorted to name-calling.


You are literally trying to claim that you know more about why people are transgender than someone who has been immersed in learning about this for several years.
Anonymous
You know nothing about me or my immersion in transgender issues and have still not demonstrated any knowledge to refute my concerns. The “I have a an XYZ friend or family member” claim for legitimacy is irrelevant.
Anonymous
Okay, let’s refocus. Whether or not you agree with Tyler’s message, Big Sis’s commentary was so cringe. “My boyfriend (did y’all know I have a boyfriend!!!) wrote this thing. Yay, baby!! You go!!! That’s my baby!!! Do Texas next.” Actually, didn’t he do one for Texas last year? This over-the-top, cheerleader rah rah rah sh!t is so immature and childish.
Anonymous
For being a performative black activist with all the big t-shirts with big fonts saying as much Big Sass sure covets the approval and affirmation of middle-class white suburban wine moms.

I think black women, and definitely, back men, see right through him.

I bet 95% of his book sales are to this demo.
Anonymous
I read some reviews for Tyler’s book on Good Reads and the majority of reviewers referenced Jen as the reason they read the book. I don’t mind her cheerleading but the fact that it’s not reciprocated makes it pretty uncomfortable to witness. Not asking Tyler to be so rah rah but even a brief shoutout like “Thank you to Jen Hatmaker and her community for being so supportive!” would be the decent thing to do.

Tyler said it himself, don’t tell a Black person how to be Black. But I agree, his Black ACTIVISM is not my favourite. Yes, one strategy of change is to “play their game and plant seeds”. By obviously catering to a certain mid-life White Suburban mom audience, their approval of him creates an opportunity to challenge stereotypes of Black men, increase favourability of Black men, and increase knowledge of the brutal realities of most Black men in America. Moving the needle just a little bit is still moving the needle.

However, because he labels himself as a Black activist, I would like to see him be more self-critical of his public actions. I wrote pages back about some problems I had with his recent post revealing something like 10 new behind the scenes insights of his book. For example, I took issue with him referring to his Black mother’s professional accomplishments only to tear her down about it. You could argue it’s only a joke and he has the right to tease his own parents. But Black women in America tend to be the most educated group relative to their employment status. And they continue to be disproportionately discriminated against and harassed at work regardless of their hierarchical status. Tyler’s remark was an unnecessary comment that may contribute to further bias about Black professional women. In this case it may be that they don’t have transferable skills.

Be careful about taking one step forward only to take multiple steps back.

Anonymous
So the Nashville school shooter was also a trans activist. Wonder how Tyler will Haskell this .
Anonymous
Handle not Haskell .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So the Nashville school shooter was also a trans activist. Wonder how Tyler will Haskell this .


If that’s the case he won’t say a word.
Anonymous
For being a performative black activist with all the big t-shirts with big fonts saying as much Big Sass sure covets the approval and affirmation of middle-class white suburban wine moms.

I think black women, and definitely, back men, see right through him.

I bet 95% of his book sales are to this demo


100%


I think it is very telling that Jen's inner circle are *crickets* about Tyler and his work. Howerton has two black sons, so you think she would chime in and promote his books- has she? Jen's supposed "bestie?"
Anonymous
I was just blocked from Tyler’s page for responding to a comment someone made about trans people not being violent… / not causing harm to anyone…pointing out todays shooter identified as trans…
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