FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no trust in Reid and the School Board to implement boundary changes effectively. Absolutely none.

These are the same folks who bungled Hayfield and are wasting tens of millions of taxpayer money on the totally unnecessary Dunn Loring ES. Those were discrete issues; this is a far more complex undertaking. Yet they have no appreciation for the limits of their own competence, and they will make a total hash of things. If you think things are getting ugly now, just wait.

As the saying goes the difference between genius and stupidity is that one has limits. There is simply no limit to how bad this outcome will be. Worse yet since it will only truly impact those with children it will keep happening every 5 years since the good citizens of Fairfax County will keep voting these clowns in to office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it make the most sense, least complaining, to simply build some new schools in most desirable areas, no complaints presumably, then shift everyone to a better nearby school who needs to be moved between older schools? Think of it like dominos. Kids at school F shift to D, D shifts to C, C to B, and so forth.

No. You are stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it make the most sense, least complaining, to simply build some new schools in most desirable areas, no complaints presumably, then shift everyone to a better nearby school who needs to be moved between older schools? Think of it like dominos. Kids at school F shift to D, D shifts to C, C to B, and so forth.

1. There’s no land for new schools. (See Western High School… or the lack thereof.)
2. It’s not the facilities that makes a school desirable (see McLean High School) that’s why this website belabors FARM rates so often.

[Anonymous]

They need to leave the Waples Mill community alone. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Good list. This whole exercise reeks of "shoot first and ask questions later." This is what we get when we elect frivolous idiots like Karl Frisch to the School Board.

Mr. Frisch posted a job for a staff assistant 12 hours ago. You think maybe his phone line has been busy...

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4148130463/?refId=Pwo%2B%2FsfcR7WWSWcKeGHKVg%3D%3D&trackingId=Pwo%2B%2FsfcR7WWSWcKeGHKVg%3D%3D

[Anonymous]

Draft resolution


Resolution No.
A Resolution to Limit School Transfers Based on Program Preference and Foreign Language Curriculum Offerings

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board is committed to ensuring that all students have access to a high-quality, equitable education that prepares them for success in their academic and post-secondary endeavors;

WHEREAS, the current policy permitting high school students to transfer between schools based on program preference (e.g., International Baccalaureate (IB) vs. Advanced Placement (AP)) or foreign language curriculum offerings has resulted in an unsustainable volume of transfers, often used by students to avoid schools with lower performance rather than for legitimate academic needs;

WHEREAS, these transfers undermine efforts to create stable learning environments and equitable opportunities for all students, and may exacerbate the academic challenges faced by underperforming schools;

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board believes that all schools should be supported to provide rigorous academic programs and equitable access to high-quality instruction, regardless of their program offerings;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that effective [Insert Date], the Fairfax County School Board will limit student transfers between schools based solely on program preference (e.g., IB vs. AP) or foreign language curriculum offerings. Transfers may only be granted under the following circumstances:
• Documented academic deficiencies or special educational needs that cannot be addressed at the assigned school;
• A family hardship that requires a change in school assignment, as determined by the regional superintendent;
• Other exceptions as deemed necessary by the regional superintendents.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Fairfax County School Board directs the superintendent to enforce this policy and to provide the necessary resources to support underperforming schools in meeting the academic needs of all students, including the development of targeted intervention programs.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the superintendent shall prepare a comprehensive communication plan to inform students, parents, and the community of this policy change, and to outline available academic support programs at each school.

[Anonymous]

PP, do you have access to the draft maps? If so, please consider sharing with the media via a secure method.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.

Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.

It's also the farthest from WSHS.....

It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.

You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.

Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.

No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.

The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.

I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.

Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."

Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.

Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.

My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.

WS is currently well over its Design Capacity.

WSHS also just completed a nice renovation to better use their available space vs. Lewis which is a much older facility. Give Lewis the same renovation as WSHS and maybe it can accommodate more elementary feeders as well due to a better use of space. But keep in mind Hunt Valley alone has 700+ students. Never mind the other two schools purported to move.

[Anonymous]

Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.

Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.

It's also the farthest from WSHS.....

It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.

You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.

Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.

No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.

The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.

I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.

Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."

Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.

Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.

My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.

Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?

One Fairfax is the entire county. Not just schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Draft resolution


Resolution No.
A Resolution to Limit School Transfers Based on Program Preference and Foreign Language Curriculum Offerings

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board is committed to ensuring that all students have access to a high-quality, equitable education that prepares them for success in their academic and post-secondary endeavors;

WHEREAS, the current policy permitting high school students to transfer between schools based on program preference (e.g., International Baccalaureate (IB) vs. Advanced Placement (AP)) or foreign language curriculum offerings has resulted in an unsustainable volume of transfers, often used by students to avoid schools with lower performance rather than for legitimate academic needs;

WHEREAS, these transfers undermine efforts to create stable learning environments and equitable opportunities for all students, and may exacerbate the academic challenges faced by underperforming schools;

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board believes that all schools should be supported to provide rigorous academic programs and equitable access to high-quality instruction, regardless of their program offerings;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that effective [Insert Date], the Fairfax County School Board will limit student transfers between schools based solely on program preference (e.g., IB vs. AP) or foreign language curriculum offerings. Transfers may only be granted under the following circumstances:
• Documented academic deficiencies or special educational needs that cannot be addressed at the assigned school;
• A family hardship that requires a change in school assignment, as determined by the regional superintendent;
• Other exceptions as deemed necessary by the regional superintendents.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Fairfax County School Board directs the superintendent to enforce this policy and to provide the necessary resources to support underperforming schools in meeting the academic needs of all students, including the development of targeted intervention programs.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the superintendent shall prepare a comprehensive communication plan to inform students, parents, and the community of this policy change, and to outline available academic support programs at each school.

If this goes into place Herndon won’t be so below capacity with students returning from south lakes for IB. I assume it will affect tons to schools. So are they doing this and putting every student back where they are zoned before they work boundaries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.

Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.

It's also the farthest from WSHS.....

It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.

You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.

Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.

No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.

The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.

I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.

Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."

Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.

Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.

My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.

Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.

I used to teach at Lewis in the mid-2000s when they were at their peak size of 2100+ kids for a few years, before the first boundary change to remove Daventry. Has something changed about the building? Did some wings get permanently closed off or converted? Lewis currently has 1630 kids, and has definitely held it's building capacity above 2100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Draft resolution


Resolution No.
A Resolution to Limit School Transfers Based on Program Preference and Foreign Language Curriculum Offerings

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board is committed to ensuring that all students have access to a high-quality, equitable education that prepares them for success in their academic and post-secondary endeavors;

WHEREAS, the current policy permitting high school students to transfer between schools based on program preference (e.g., International Baccalaureate (IB) vs. Advanced Placement (AP)) or foreign language curriculum offerings has resulted in an unsustainable volume of transfers, often used by students to avoid schools with lower performance rather than for legitimate academic needs;

WHEREAS, these transfers undermine efforts to create stable learning environments and equitable opportunities for all students, and may exacerbate the academic challenges faced by underperforming schools;

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board believes that all schools should be supported to provide rigorous academic programs and equitable access to high-quality instruction, regardless of their program offerings;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that effective [Insert Date], the Fairfax County School Board will limit student transfers between schools based solely on program preference (e.g., IB vs. AP) or foreign language curriculum offerings. Transfers may only be granted under the following circumstances:
• Documented academic deficiencies or special educational needs that cannot be addressed at the assigned school;
• A family hardship that requires a change in school assignment, as determined by the regional superintendent;
• Other exceptions as deemed necessary by the regional superintendents.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Fairfax County School Board directs the superintendent to enforce this policy and to provide the necessary resources to support underperforming schools in meeting the academic needs of all students, including the development of targeted intervention programs.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the superintendent shall prepare a comprehensive communication plan to inform students, parents, and the community of this policy change, and to outline available academic support programs at each school.

Where did this come from? Is this is a real draft resolution?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Draft resolution


Resolution No.
A Resolution to Limit School Transfers Based on Program Preference and Foreign Language Curriculum Offerings

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board is committed to ensuring that all students have access to a high-quality, equitable education that prepares them for success in their academic and post-secondary endeavors;

WHEREAS, the current policy permitting high school students to transfer between schools based on program preference (e.g., International Baccalaureate (IB) vs. Advanced Placement (AP)) or foreign language curriculum offerings has resulted in an unsustainable volume of transfers, often used by students to avoid schools with lower performance rather than for legitimate academic needs;

WHEREAS, these transfers undermine efforts to create stable learning environments and equitable opportunities for all students, and may exacerbate the academic challenges faced by underperforming schools;

WHEREAS, the Fairfax County School Board believes that all schools should be supported to provide rigorous academic programs and equitable access to high-quality instruction, regardless of their program offerings;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that effective [Insert Date], the Fairfax County School Board will limit student transfers between schools based solely on program preference (e.g., IB vs. AP) or foreign language curriculum offerings. Transfers may only be granted under the following circumstances:
• Documented academic deficiencies or special educational needs that cannot be addressed at the assigned school;
• A family hardship that requires a change in school assignment, as determined by the regional superintendent;
• Other exceptions as deemed necessary by the regional superintendents.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Fairfax County School Board directs the superintendent to enforce this policy and to provide the necessary resources to support underperforming schools in meeting the academic needs of all students, including the development of targeted intervention programs.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the superintendent shall prepare a comprehensive communication plan to inform students, parents, and the community of this policy change, and to outline available academic support programs at each school.

LOL. Better to get rid of IB and standardize foreign language options if they think pupil placements are being exploited.