Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting the protests aren't going on when US is heading towards relocating entire population of Gaza

I really don’t think anyone cares. Not many anyway.

This. Nobody cares, and most people feel they're going to get what they deserve after 77 years of fomenting terrorism. Now, cue the pro-Hamas indignation....

A truly ugly thing to say. Historically, it is Zionist terrorism that ethnically cleansed 750,000 Palestinians from their land, massacred 15,000 of them, and raped and mutilated many more. You stereotype all Palestinians, including children, as "terrorists" who are getting "what they deserve." This is clearly racist. You fail to consider the horrors Israel has committed against the indigenous population of the region for decades.

Israel never started a war but it did finish them. And Arab Muslim imperialists have attacked Jews in the region for centuries. Hamas and its predecessors aspired to literally kill every Jew - it was in their respective charters. Palestinians literally conspired with Nazis. Lastly, stop hiding behind your hate for “Zionism”, which is simply the belief that Jews should have a safe, peaceful place in their indigenous homeland. Palestinians had decades to build toward a healthy state, instead they invested in terror tunnels and made Sinwar and other Hamas leaders rich.

Most Jews vote Democratic and most Jews voted for Harris. And most Jews also believe in safety, peace, and security for Israel. Hamas will never agree to that so enough with blaming Israel for “genocide”. You start wars then you pay the consequences.

Israel has most certainly started many wars and conflicts against the Palestinians and committed many atrocities. Zionist imperialists have been attempting to genocide the Palestinians and steal their land since the Nakba. Hamas has replaced "Jew" with "Zionist" in its charter. Judaism is a religion. Zionism is an ethnosupremacist cult based in a fundamentalist interpretation of the Hebrew Bible and the narcissistic and racist belief that the aspirations of one religious group trump those of another. That might have gone down during the Bronze Age. It's considered downright evil today.

To claim that "Jews should have a safe, peaceful place in their indigenous homeland" is incredibly self-centered. Palestinians are far more indigenous to the region than Europeans who may have, for example, 80% Polish DNA. This claim is simply an extremely weak excuse to colonize other people's land and ethnically cleanse them from it. And again, how very selfish to claim "Jews also believe in safety, peace, and security for Israel." Zionists need to acknowledge their responsibilities to the people they have abused and genocided for 77 years and to consider safety, peace, and security for them, too.

People need to stop thinking of themselves as belonging to this or that ethnic group and acknowledge their common humanity and mutual rights. The idea that one group should be privileged over another is racist and does not accord with modern, humanistic thinking (although we must acknowledge that the world is currently in a temporary regression). It is past time that the Palestinians receive the rights granted them by UN Resolution 194, which states they must either be allowed to return to the homes from which they've been driven or receive just compensation from what has been stolen from them. If you want UN Resolution 181, you have to accept UN Resolution 194. Either accept both or give up on both. Until Israel abides by international law, common sense, and basic morality, it will always experience opposition and will never be safe.

Germany pays reparations to Jewish victims of the Holocaust (for some reason, much less to the Roma). Israel must do the same for Palestinians. You can't just take, take, and take some more and never be held accountable for your evil.

There will never be peace without justice. Currently, Israel has adopted policies of very ugly in-group favoritism and out-group demonization. We know where that leads ...

So much nonsense in your post but starting here:

1) Which wars did Israel start? Curious.

2) Less than half of Israelis are of from Europe. Many of them came to Europe to flee the persecution of the Islamists and before that were enslaved by Romans (among other invaders). You don’t get to persecute Jewish people, force them from their homeland, and then denounce their indigenous connection to the land.

The existence of Israel is one, long war crime. Israel has been sly in declaring war, but it has certainly waged war. It effectively declared war on the indigenous people of Palestine when it began ethnically cleansing them from their homes and land during the Nakba, and it hasn't stopped since. It is currently at war in the West Bank, shooting and raping children and (as usual) destroying Palestinian homes.

What "Islamists" were persecuting Jews in Europe? The Nazis certainly did, but that wasn't the fault of the Palestinians, many of who encouraged Jews to seek refuge in Palestine in the early days. I think you're confusing Zionists and Palestinians here. It was Zionists who began persecuting Palestinians and forcing them from their homeland and then denouncing their indigenous connection to the land. How do you manage to get so mixed up? I guess you've been brainwashed all your life. Or maybe it's just convenient for you to believe you can steal other people's property.

I don't think the Roman connection counts after 2,000 years. If we all started claiming land where a (small?) percentage of our ancestors came from, there'd be absolute chaos. One of my friends has Italian, Scottish, Nigerian, and Vietnamese blood. Does this make her "indigenous" to those countries? Can she drive people from their homes in each and claim their land? Think about how absurd your claims really are.

About 45% of Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi (as I am), meaning they have European blood. I have mostly European DNA, but I could get a home on land where the true indigenous people have roots going back for millennia, while they are ousted as refugees. Many other Jews from Israel come from North Africa. Very few are truly "indigenous."

[Anonymous]

Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

This is a good thing. Hamas only responds to pressure, military or otherwise. There will be no peace with them calling the shots, literally, in Gaza.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Not true. Israel does not to go to phase 2. Israeli officials have said so plainly.

Israel has also violated the terms of phase 1. 200000 tents were supposed to be delivered. Only about 10 percent were. 60000 mobile homes were to be delivered . Zero were allowed in.

Further, blocking all aid is a war crime and should not be excused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. Palestinians are always the victim, no matter what. Incapable to wrongdoing. Murdered a baby? Pfft. It was the baby’s fault for existing with that Jew blood running through his veins. Baby deserved it, amirite?

[Anonymous]

While Israel has sided with Russia and that's about all I need to know about them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting the protests aren't going on when US is heading towards relocating entire population of Gaza

I really don’t think anyone cares. Not many anyway.

This. Nobody cares, and most people feel they're going to get what they deserve after 77 years of fomenting terrorism. Now, cue the pro-Hamas indignation....

A truly ugly thing to say. Historically, it is Zionist terrorism that ethnically cleansed 750,000 Palestinians from their land, massacred 15,000 of them, and raped and mutilated many more. You stereotype all Palestinians, including children, as "terrorists" who are getting "what they deserve." This is clearly racist. You fail to consider the horrors Israel has committed against the indigenous population of the region for decades.

Israel never started a war but it did finish them. And Arab Muslim imperialists have attacked Jews in the region for centuries. Hamas and its predecessors aspired to literally kill every Jew - it was in their respective charters. Palestinians literally conspired with Nazis. Lastly, stop hiding behind your hate for “Zionism”, which is simply the belief that Jews should have a safe, peaceful place in their indigenous homeland. Palestinians had decades to build toward a healthy state, instead they invested in terror tunnels and made Sinwar and other Hamas leaders rich.

Most Jews vote Democratic and most Jews voted for Harris. And most Jews also believe in safety, peace, and security for Israel. Hamas will never agree to that so enough with blaming Israel for “genocide”. You start wars then you pay the consequences.

Israel has most certainly started many wars and conflicts against the Palestinians and committed many atrocities. Zionist imperialists have been attempting to genocide the Palestinians and steal their land since the Nakba. Hamas has replaced "Jew" with "Zionist" in its charter. Judaism is a religion. Zionism is an ethnosupremacist cult based in a fundamentalist interpretation of the Hebrew Bible and the narcissistic and racist belief that the aspirations of one religious group trump those of another. That might have gone down during the Bronze Age. It's considered downright evil today.

To claim that "Jews should have a safe, peaceful place in their indigenous homeland" is incredibly self-centered. Palestinians are far more indigenous to the region than Europeans who may have, for example, 80% Polish DNA. This claim is simply an extremely weak excuse to colonize other people's land and ethnically cleanse them from it. And again, how very selfish to claim "Jews also believe in safety, peace, and security for Israel." Zionists need to acknowledge their responsibilities to the people they have abused and genocided for 77 years and to consider safety, peace, and security for them, too.

People need to stop thinking of themselves as belonging to this or that ethnic group and acknowledge their common humanity and mutual rights. The idea that one group should be privileged over another is racist and does not accord with modern, humanistic thinking (although we must acknowledge that the world is currently in a temporary regression). It is past time that the Palestinians receive the rights granted them by UN Resolution 194, which states they must either be allowed to return to the homes from which they've been driven or receive just compensation from what has been stolen from them. If you want UN Resolution 181, you have to accept UN Resolution 194. Either accept both or give up on both. Until Israel abides by international law, common sense, and basic morality, it will always experience opposition and will never be safe.

Germany pays reparations to Jewish victims of the Holocaust (for some reason, much less to the Roma). Israel must do the same for Palestinians. You can't just take, take, and take some more and never be held accountable for your evil.

There will never be peace without justice. Currently, Israel has adopted policies of very ugly in-group favoritism and out-group demonization. We know where that leads ...

So much nonsense in your post but starting here:

1) Which wars did Israel start? Curious.

2) Less than half of Israelis are of from Europe. Many of them came to Europe to flee the persecution of the Islamists and before that were enslaved by Romans (among other invaders). You don’t get to persecute Jewish people, force them from their homeland, and then denounce their indigenous connection to the land.

According to the Torah, the history book written by the Jews, the Jews invaded and conquered Canaan/Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. Palestinians are always the victim, no matter what. Incapable to wrongdoing. Murdered a baby? Pfft. It was the baby’s fault for existing with that Jew blood running through his veins. Baby deserved it, amirite?

Of course it’s horrible that the Israeli baby and children were killed. But literally tens of thousands of more Palestinians children have been killed by Israeli bombs. Compassion should be shown to all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. Palestinians are always the victim, no matter what. Incapable to wrongdoing. Murdered a baby? Pfft. It was the baby’s fault for existing with that Jew blood running through his veins. Baby deserved it, amirite?

Of course it’s horrible that the Israeli baby and children were killed. But literally tens of thousands of more Palestinians children have been killed by Israeli bombs. Compassion should be shown to all.

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You are right. Compassion should be shown to all. But there is no moral equivalency to invading someone’s home, then kidnapping and strangling a baby with your bare hands (Hamas) versus bombing a terrorist regime that killed and kidnapped over a thousand innocent citizens and, in that process, inadvertently killing innocents who are being used as human shields in that war. It’s not the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

I am very skeptical of claims that the Bibas children were strangled. Remember the "40 beheaded babies" and the "babies baked in ovens"? I suspect the "strangled babies" claim is also false. It's difficult to believe a regime that has lied repeatedly in the past.

There was also outrage that Shiri Bibas' body was not returned in the first coffin delivered by Hamas, but it's likely that her body was not easily identifiable after being torn apart by 2,000 pound bombs. I've seen photographs of bodies being collected after bombings, and they are not intact. They are in pieces the size of tennis balls and eggs, which are collected in plastic bags. It is understandable that her body parts might have been mixed with those of another person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. Palestinians are always the victim, no matter what. Incapable to wrongdoing. Murdered a baby? Pfft. It was the baby’s fault for existing with that Jew blood running through his veins. Baby deserved it, amirite?

Of course it’s horrible that the Israeli baby and children were killed. But literally tens of thousands of more Palestinians children have been killed by Israeli bombs. Compassion should be shown to all.

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You are right. Compassion should be shown to all. But there is no moral equivalency to invading someone’s home, then kidnapping and strangling a baby with your bare hands (Hamas) versus bombing a terrorist regime that killed and kidnapped over a thousand innocent citizens and, in that process, inadvertently killing innocents who are being used as human shields in that war. It’s not the same thing.

Remember, many Palestinian infants in Gaza have died slowly and horribly because of decisions that the Israeli regime has made. They have died because there is no power for their incubators, starved to death, and died of hypothermia. Blocking aid is a very conscious decision to kill people. These deaths are not "inadvertent" but icily deliberate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. Palestinians are always the victim, no matter what. Incapable to wrongdoing. Murdered a baby? Pfft. It was the baby’s fault for existing with that Jew blood running through his veins. Baby deserved it, amirite?

Give up the race card. It's a cheap, dishonest trick to try to intimidate just and fair criticism, and you're not convincing anyone.

If the situation were reversed and Palestinians had a 77-year-history of stealing Jewish land and possessions, massacring them, corralling them in ghettoes, incarcerating them without trial and torturing and raping them in detention, killing their children, calling them rats and cockroaches, etc., etc., etc., I'd be just as sympathetic as I am to the Palestinians now. Race and ethnicity have nothing to do with this. It's all about efforts to erase Palestinians from the time of the Nakba.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel has stopped the delivery of ALL goods and supplies into Gaza. This includes all humanitarian aid.

This is a violation of international law and a war crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4w99je78o

It's the end of Phase One in the ceasefire. Hamas hasn't moved forward on Phase Two. So, it's a wait and see time. Also, Israelis are in profound mourning over what Hamas did to the Bibas children. It can be hard to work with Palestinians who are strangling toddlers and babies to death with their bare hands. The shock of Palestinian brutality makes it difficult to move forward.

Palestinians have been in a constant of mourning every since the European jews arrived.

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. Palestinians are always the victim, no matter what. Incapable to wrongdoing. Murdered a baby? Pfft. It was the baby’s fault for existing with that Jew blood running through his veins. Baby deserved it, amirite?

Give up the race card. It's a cheap, dishonest trick to try to intimidate just and fair criticism, and you're not convincing anyone.

If the situation were reversed and Palestinians had a 77-year-history of stealing Jewish land and possessions, massacring them, corralling them in ghettoes, incarcerating them without trial and torturing and raping them in detention, killing their children, calling them rats and cockroaches, etc., etc., etc., I'd be just as sympathetic as I am to the Palestinians now. Race and ethnicity have nothing to do with this. It's all about efforts to erase Palestinians from the time of the Nakba.

I look forward tro their erasure, and to the advent of peace. The so-called nakba is a convenient excuse for 77 years of terrorism and violence. Bring on the bulldozers, flood the tunnels, and relocate the jihadists far, far away.