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Anonymous wrote:I jumped in on page 40 of this thread, so apologies if it's already been said. But you need to read between the lines here. They left the door wide open for covid boosters but stopped short of recommending it for everyone, and this was likely done for very political reasons. It's the difference between public health and personal health. The public health officials are monitoring the virus in terms of serious hospitalizations and death. And the 2-shot vaccine is still effective against that. But someone's personal health decision may be to aim for no covid rather than just no hospitalization. That person would want a booster.

The questions to get a booster ask if you are at higher risk due to your job, and I've seen it also stated that a higher risk home life is also applicable. So for me, I would like to visit with my high risk parents, so I got a booster. Because right now, I want to aim for no covid and not just no hospitalization. I don't see this as a lie. I see this as a nod to the wide open door that lets us determine our own levels of risk.

The issue is many people around the world haven't had one shot and people in the US are getting 3-4 shots. The WHO and other groups who are advocating are concerned part of the spread is not everyone having access to even one shot, which is a reasonable concern.

If you want to aim for no covid, behavior also plays a big factor in it.

Aiming for no COVID is a fool’s errand. Do you still not understand that?

Do you not understand, behavior plays a huge factor on if you will get covid, even vaccinated AND simple things like distancing, masking and no indoor gatherings go a long way.

Yes, we are aiming for no covid. I hope everyone like you gets it, so you have immunity and it makes it safer for the rest of us.

Immunity from infection probably doesn't last much longer than immunity through vaccination. Nor do either perfectly prevent infection. And that's why COVID isn't going away. I don't think there's any scientific disagreement on that. Talk to your therapist about it so you can work on acceptance.

Vaccines offer more reliable and more lasting (overall) immunity than prior infection.

We don't have any long term studies on these vaccines and people are needing a booster every few months. They aren't offering long lasting immunity. Just short term help, its not even full immunity. It is designed to keep symptoms down. It is not designed for full immunity.

Who said vaccines were going to be 100% effective? That is a false goalpost. Vaccines, even after several months, offer still good protection against infection and great protection against severe outcomes. With boosters protection is even better.

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Anonymous wrote:I jumped in on page 40 of this thread, so apologies if it's already been said. But you need to read between the lines here. They left the door wide open for covid boosters but stopped short of recommending it for everyone, and this was likely done for very political reasons. It's the difference between public health and personal health. The public health officials are monitoring the virus in terms of serious hospitalizations and death. And the 2-shot vaccine is still effective against that. But someone's personal health decision may be to aim for no covid rather than just no hospitalization. That person would want a booster.

The questions to get a booster ask if you are at higher risk due to your job, and I've seen it also stated that a higher risk home life is also applicable. So for me, I would like to visit with my high risk parents, so I got a booster. Because right now, I want to aim for no covid and not just no hospitalization. I don't see this as a lie. I see this as a nod to the wide open door that lets us determine our own levels of risk.

The issue is many people around the world haven't had one shot and people in the US are getting 3-4 shots. The WHO and other groups who are advocating are concerned part of the spread is not everyone having access to even one shot, which is a reasonable concern.

If you want to aim for no covid, behavior also plays a big factor in it.

Aiming for no COVID is a fool’s errand. Do you still not understand that?

Aiming for no covid for this 2021 holiday season is different from aiming for no covid for the rest of our lives. Every month we learn more and more about treatments, long covid, vaccine antibodies, etc. What we choose in the next 2 months does not lock us into that choice forever. This situation will evolve for years to come.

I agree! (NP here) The new anti-viral pills could be a game changer, but they need a bit more time to roll out. This has always been the aim, right? Protect your family until there is a vaccine and treatment. The vaccine is here, and my family at least is doing much, much more than we used to. But we still mask in stores and only spend time indoors with a few vaccinated people we are close to. I'm pleased that schools are still masking for now. But a few months from now (fingers crossed), kids whose parents want them to will be vaccinated; thus a larger percentage of the population will be vaccinated, driving down cases. And better treatments will be readily available for those who catch it anyway. That seems like a game changer, and I'm content with our current habits until March or so when I think things will look much different.

You are just kicking a can down the road. Very little is going to be different for you and your immediate in 2022 or 2025 than it is now and you know that. Sure, you kids will be vaccinated. But kids are at low risk of severe outcomes. And you have been vaccinated all this time and it does not seem to have alleviated your anxiety. So I'm skeptical you will change much when your kids are vaccinated. For some people, there will always be a reason to continue with "current habits." I am not going to look back and realize I didn't live life for five years.

My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

I am vaccinated and will get boosted when recommended. My kids will be vaccinated. Unlike you I actually believe in vaccines and the immunity they confer. Virtue signaling by not traveling is not going to convince the rest of the country to get vaccinated. It just sends a bad public health message about vaccines. It's time to move on.

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Anonymous wrote:I jumped in on page 40 of this thread, so apologies if it's already been said. But you need to read between the lines here. They left the door wide open for covid boosters but stopped short of recommending it for everyone, and this was likely done for very political reasons. It's the difference between public health and personal health. The public health officials are monitoring the virus in terms of serious hospitalizations and death. And the 2-shot vaccine is still effective against that. But someone's personal health decision may be to aim for no covid rather than just no hospitalization. That person would want a booster.

The questions to get a booster ask if you are at higher risk due to your job, and I've seen it also stated that a higher risk home life is also applicable. So for me, I would like to visit with my high risk parents, so I got a booster. Because right now, I want to aim for no covid and not just no hospitalization. I don't see this as a lie. I see this as a nod to the wide open door that lets us determine our own levels of risk.

The issue is many people around the world haven't had one shot and people in the US are getting 3-4 shots. The WHO and other groups who are advocating are concerned part of the spread is not everyone having access to even one shot, which is a reasonable concern.

If you want to aim for no covid, behavior also plays a big factor in it.

Aiming for no COVID is a fool’s errand. Do you still not understand that?

Aiming for no covid for this 2021 holiday season is different from aiming for no covid for the rest of our lives. Every month we learn more and more about treatments, long covid, vaccine antibodies, etc. What we choose in the next 2 months does not lock us into that choice forever. This situation will evolve for years to come.

I agree! (NP here) The new anti-viral pills could be a game changer, but they need a bit more time to roll out. This has always been the aim, right? Protect your family until there is a vaccine and treatment. The vaccine is here, and my family at least is doing much, much more than we used to. But we still mask in stores and only spend time indoors with a few vaccinated people we are close to. I'm pleased that schools are still masking for now. But a few months from now (fingers crossed), kids whose parents want them to will be vaccinated; thus a larger percentage of the population will be vaccinated, driving down cases. And better treatments will be readily available for those who catch it anyway. That seems like a game changer, and I'm content with our current habits until March or so when I think things will look much different.

You are just kicking a can down the road. Very little is going to be different for you and your immediate in 2022 or 2025 than it is now and you know that. Sure, you kids will be vaccinated. But kids are at low risk of severe outcomes. And you have been vaccinated all this time and it does not seem to have alleviated your anxiety. So I'm skeptical you will change much when your kids are vaccinated. For some people, there will always be a reason to continue with "current habits." I am not going to look back and realize I didn't live life for five years.

My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I jumped in on page 40 of this thread, so apologies if it's already been said. But you need to read between the lines here. They left the door wide open for covid boosters but stopped short of recommending it for everyone, and this was likely done for very political reasons. It's the difference between public health and personal health. The public health officials are monitoring the virus in terms of serious hospitalizations and death. And the 2-shot vaccine is still effective against that. But someone's personal health decision may be to aim for no covid rather than just no hospitalization. That person would want a booster.

The questions to get a booster ask if you are at higher risk due to your job, and I've seen it also stated that a higher risk home life is also applicable. So for me, I would like to visit with my high risk parents, so I got a booster. Because right now, I want to aim for no covid and not just no hospitalization. I don't see this as a lie. I see this as a nod to the wide open door that lets us determine our own levels of risk.

The issue is many people around the world haven't had one shot and people in the US are getting 3-4 shots. The WHO and other groups who are advocating are concerned part of the spread is not everyone having access to even one shot, which is a reasonable concern.

If you want to aim for no covid, behavior also plays a big factor in it.

Aiming for no COVID is a fool’s errand. Do you still not understand that?

Aiming for no covid for this 2021 holiday season is different from aiming for no covid for the rest of our lives. Every month we learn more and more about treatments, long covid, vaccine antibodies, etc. What we choose in the next 2 months does not lock us into that choice forever. This situation will evolve for years to come.

I agree! (NP here) The new anti-viral pills could be a game changer, but they need a bit more time to roll out. This has always been the aim, right? Protect your family until there is a vaccine and treatment. The vaccine is here, and my family at least is doing much, much more than we used to. But we still mask in stores and only spend time indoors with a few vaccinated people we are close to. I'm pleased that schools are still masking for now. But a few months from now (fingers crossed), kids whose parents want them to will be vaccinated; thus a larger percentage of the population will be vaccinated, driving down cases. And better treatments will be readily available for those who catch it anyway. That seems like a game changer, and I'm content with our current habits until March or so when I think things will look much different.

You are just kicking a can down the road. Very little is going to be different for you and your immediate in 2022 or 2025 than it is now and you know that. Sure, you kids will be vaccinated. But kids are at low risk of severe outcomes. And you have been vaccinated all this time and it does not seem to have alleviated your anxiety. So I'm skeptical you will change much when your kids are vaccinated. For some people, there will always be a reason to continue with "current habits." I am not going to look back and realize I didn't live life for five years.

Now you're just trolling. Things will definitely be different in 2022. The PP literally says she is more active now that they're vaccinated and is encouraged by upcoming anti-viral treatments, and all you say is "No, you're lying. You have anxiety. You won't change." I see why this thread has 40 pages now. It's probably all you just blindly contradicting people.

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I jumped in on page 40 of this thread, so apologies if it's already been said. But you need to read between the lines here. They left the door wide open for covid boosters but stopped short of recommending it for everyone, and this was likely done for very political reasons. It's the difference between public health and personal health. The public health officials are monitoring the virus in terms of serious hospitalizations and death. And the 2-shot vaccine is still effective against that. But someone's personal health decision may be to aim for no covid rather than just no hospitalization. That person would want a booster.

The questions to get a booster ask if you are at higher risk due to your job, and I've seen it also stated that a higher risk home life is also applicable. So for me, I would like to visit with my high risk parents, so I got a booster. Because right now, I want to aim for no covid and not just no hospitalization. I don't see this as a lie. I see this as a nod to the wide open door that lets us determine our own levels of risk.

The issue is many people around the world haven't had one shot and people in the US are getting 3-4 shots. The WHO and other groups who are advocating are concerned part of the spread is not everyone having access to even one shot, which is a reasonable concern.

If you want to aim for no covid, behavior also plays a big factor in it.

Aiming for no COVID is a fool’s errand. Do you still not understand that?

Aiming for no covid for this 2021 holiday season is different from aiming for no covid for the rest of our lives. Every month we learn more and more about treatments, long covid, vaccine antibodies, etc. What we choose in the next 2 months does not lock us into that choice forever. This situation will evolve for years to come.

I agree! (NP here) The new anti-viral pills could be a game changer, but they need a bit more time to roll out. This has always been the aim, right? Protect your family until there is a vaccine and treatment. The vaccine is here, and my family at least is doing much, much more than we used to. But we still mask in stores and only spend time indoors with a few vaccinated people we are close to. I'm pleased that schools are still masking for now. But a few months from now (fingers crossed), kids whose parents want them to will be vaccinated; thus a larger percentage of the population will be vaccinated, driving down cases. And better treatments will be readily available for those who catch it anyway. That seems like a game changer, and I'm content with our current habits until March or so when I think things will look much different.

You are just kicking a can down the road. Very little is going to be different for you and your immediate in 2022 or 2025 than it is now and you know that. Sure, you kids will be vaccinated. But kids are at low risk of severe outcomes. And you have been vaccinated all this time and it does not seem to have alleviated your anxiety. So I'm skeptical you will change much when your kids are vaccinated. For some people, there will always be a reason to continue with "current habits." I am not going to look back and realize I didn't live life for five years.

My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

I am vaccinated and will get boosted when recommended. My kids will be vaccinated. Unlike you I actually believe in vaccines and the immunity they confer. Virtue signaling by not traveling is not going to convince the rest of the country to get vaccinated. It just sends a bad public health message about vaccines. It's time to move on.

You have moved on. So, why do you care if people like us are continuing to be cautious. Your needs and wishes are being met. You have the right to make that choice for our family.

I don't care if people get vaccinated. I think its a person's right to decide for themself. I don't need to bully people into being vaccinated. You clearly do. Good public messages should include both vaccines and behavior.

The real issue is people like you always relied on people like me to help you out. And, now people like me refuse for safety reasons and you are stuck having to deal with driving and doing other things for your kids that you once relied on me to do. I only did it as I felt bad for the kids for having crappy parents who wouldn't put their needs first but its been really nice just to focus on my kids and their needs. So, we will not be going back to things like carpooling to help you out.

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

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Anonymous wrote:I jumped in on page 40 of this thread, so apologies if it's already been said. But you need to read between the lines here. They left the door wide open for covid boosters but stopped short of recommending it for everyone, and this was likely done for very political reasons. It's the difference between public health and personal health. The public health officials are monitoring the virus in terms of serious hospitalizations and death. And the 2-shot vaccine is still effective against that. But someone's personal health decision may be to aim for no covid rather than just no hospitalization. That person would want a booster.

The questions to get a booster ask if you are at higher risk due to your job, and I've seen it also stated that a higher risk home life is also applicable. So for me, I would like to visit with my high risk parents, so I got a booster. Because right now, I want to aim for no covid and not just no hospitalization. I don't see this as a lie. I see this as a nod to the wide open door that lets us determine our own levels of risk.

The issue is many people around the world haven't had one shot and people in the US are getting 3-4 shots. The WHO and other groups who are advocating are concerned part of the spread is not everyone having access to even one shot, which is a reasonable concern.

If you want to aim for no covid, behavior also plays a big factor in it.

Aiming for no COVID is a fool’s errand. Do you still not understand that?

Do you not understand, behavior plays a huge factor on if you will get covid, even vaccinated AND simple things like distancing, masking and no indoor gatherings go a long way.

Yes, we are aiming for no covid. I hope everyone like you gets it, so you have immunity and it makes it safer for the rest of us.

Immunity from infection probably doesn't last much longer than immunity through vaccination. Nor do either perfectly prevent infection. And that's why COVID isn't going away. I don't think there's any scientific disagreement on that. Talk to your therapist about it so you can work on acceptance.

Vaccines offer more reliable and more lasting (overall) immunity than prior infection.

We don't have any long term studies on these vaccines and people are needing a booster every few months. They aren't offering long lasting immunity. Just short term help, its not even full immunity. It is designed to keep symptoms down. It is not designed for full immunity.

Who said vaccines were going to be 100% effective? That is a false goalpost. Vaccines, even after several months, offer still good protection against infection and great protection against severe outcomes. With boosters protection is even better.

If that's good enough for you, great. It's not good enough for me. Why do we need to think the same way? Why do you need to convince me that it is safe enough where we need to stop worrying? I'm not convincing you to care about others or be concerned about us in any way, so what is your real agenda?

Last time I checked there were no boosters for kids.

There is no masking mandate except MCPS. So, there are zero restrictions on you and you can live your life how you choose and we will live ours how we choose.

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

That's your best response?

Look, if you are looking to justify your behavior, no need. We don't care what you do. And, what we choose has no impact on you so why is it really an issue?

[Anonymous]

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

That's your best response?

Look, if you are looking to justify your behavior, no need. We don't care what you do. And, what we choose has no impact on you so why is it really an issue?

So good behavior is where you draw the line. Even though you (or a similar poster) whine about "poor behavior" nonstop.

[Anonymous]

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

That's your best response?

Look, if you are looking to justify your behavior, no need. We don't care what you do. And, what we choose has no impact on you so why is it really an issue?

So good behavior is where you draw the line. Even though you (or a similar poster) whine about "poor behavior" nonstop.

We need both behavior and vaccines to get through this. We only have vaccines. So, its up to each of us to choose what is comfortable for us. If someone else isn't comfortable being around you because of your choices, that's their right.

[Anonymous]

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

That's your best response?

Look, if you are looking to justify your behavior, no need. We don't care what you do. And, what we choose has no impact on you so why is it really an issue?

So good behavior is where you draw the line. Even though you (or a similar poster) whine about "poor behavior" nonstop.

We need both behavior and vaccines to get through this. We only have vaccines. So, its up to each of us to choose what is comfortable for us. If someone else isn't comfortable being around you because of your choices, that's their right.

I suppose so since it sounds like your behaviors are putting others at risk.

[Anonymous]

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My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

That's your best response?

Look, if you are looking to justify your behavior, no need. We don't care what you do. And, what we choose has no impact on you so why is it really an issue?

You need to look in the mirror and examine your own selfish lifestyle before blasting others.

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Anonymous wrote:

My kids are vaccinated. We are still being very careful. It has nothing to do with anxiety. We don't want long term health issues associated with covid. We are living our lives. Our lives just look different than yours. We don't need to be selfish and travel right now. We don't need to do large indoor gatherings as they are all proven to be higher risk for spread.

We are not making any improvements towards covid because of people like you and your attitude that your wishes come before the community needs and your are probably on eco those people who scream it takes a village, except you refuse to be part of that village when it doesn't meet your wants.

Selfish is in the eye of the beholder. Continuing to refuse visits to grandparents despite an entirely vaccinated family with no known risk factors would be seen as selfish in my family.

+1. My view of selfish is also keeping vaccinated kids away from the activities they love.

You assume grandparents want to see the grandkids. We wouldn't see them regardless of covid as they are busy and not interested in being grandparents except a quick visit a few times a year. You are fortunate to have grandparents who want to be involved. The only grandparent who we have had who is involved died a few years ago.

Are you growing your own food? Or are you putting delivery drivers and grocery employees at risk to provide your sustenance? How are you even posting? Aren't you putting telecom and electric company employees at risk? Why are you so selfish? If you'd only change your behavior, this would all be over.

That's your best response?

Look, if you are looking to justify your behavior, no need. We don't care what you do. And, what we choose has no impact on you so why is it really an issue?

You need to look in the mirror and examine your own selfish lifestyle before blasting others.

We are only as safe as the least safe person we interact with. My behavior is very safe. Is yours?