I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m keeping my 11 year old child home until she is fully vaccinated. We didn’t go through everything since March of 2020 to only have her get COVID (and possible long term effects) only months before a vaccine.

Ya’ll can send your kids if you really want. Go for it. MY kid’s long term health is not worth the risk and we have enough money to make it work. She’ll walk into school when she is two weeks post her 2nd shot.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

Swann recently published a report that found that in a worst-case scenario, without masking in schools, an additional 70% of children could be infected with the coronavirus within three months. Her research also shows that even if masking is required in all schools, if there are no other mitigation strategies, she still expects 40% of elementary school students to be infected within three months.

With regards to this upcoming school year and Delta generally, I find parents have split into two groups.

1. I will double down on my efforts to keep my kid from Covid. Because delta is more transmissible and the world is more open, this means being highly restrictive and curtailing their participation in school, activities, experiences but I am willing to do that.

2. Because Delta is so much more transmissible and we clearly aren’t reaching herd immunity as planned and hoped for, I have to accept I probably cannot keep my kid from getting Covid any longer. They will likely contract it at some point because the world is more open and Delta is highly transmissible but I can’t keep them out of schools and activities and experiences any longer so I have accepted Covid for them is probably going to happen but will, for the vast vast majority of them, be a non event.

This is a good assessment. I'd add that some posters from category #1 point their finger at posters from category #2 and effectively say "it's your fault the pandemic isn't over", which is naive, simple-minded, and untrue.

It’s a terrible assessment and one that is incredibly divisive. Isn’t it obvious which group is supposed to be the reasonable one and which one is the straw man? Jesus. This is why we need better educated teachers.

There is a growing realization/acknowledgment that there is no foreseeable light at the end of the tunnel. On one extreme, some people think the best approach is to shelter away from the virus. On the other extreme, some people think that exposure is inevitable. And then there is a spectrum of people in between (i.e., take steps to avoid exposure with exceptions A, B, C, etc.) I'm in the latter camp. I'm vaccinated so I'm comfortable with that. I wish the FDA would hurry up with the pediatric EUA so that we can close that hole in the system, though. I think people in the other extreme are reaching a breaking point because after 1.5 years of being hyper careful, they're beginning to realize that there is no end to that lifestyle. That 2022, 2023, etc. is just more of the same, and that's untenable.

This is the far left’s dream! Unending government control over your life.

Keep voting democrat folks!

Will do! Anything is better than a RepubliCON.

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Anonymous wrote:LA County is doing weekly testing of staff and students.

there is zero chance that I'd consent to that and risk weeks of no school while my asymptomatic kid quarantines.

If your kid has covid and is asymptomatic, they should quarantine so they don’t spread it.

I'd rather not know in the first place if there is no plan for virtual while they quarantine

So you’d rather not know & let your kid go around spreading it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LA County is doing weekly testing of staff and students.

there is zero chance that I'd consent to that and risk weeks of no school while my asymptomatic kid quarantines.

If your kid has covid and is asymptomatic, they should quarantine so they don’t spread it.

I'd rather not know in the first place if there is no plan for virtual while they quarantine

So you’d rather not know & let your kid go around spreading it?

If they school has no way to provide school to kids in quarantine, yes. At this point if you aren't vaccinated it's a personal decision, but that decision has consequences including getting covid and dying. If your kid is high risk, then keep them away from potential carriers. If your kid is low risk, then catching covid isn't a big deal- statistically there are greater threats to kids under 12 that we don't alter society to avoid

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Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LA County is doing weekly testing of staff and students.

there is zero chance that I'd consent to that and risk weeks of no school while my asymptomatic kid quarantines.

If your kid has covid and is asymptomatic, they should quarantine so they don’t spread it.

I'd rather not know in the first place if there is no plan for virtual while they quarantine

So you’d rather not know & let your kid go around spreading it?

If they school has no way to provide school to kids in quarantine, yes. At this point if you aren't vaccinated it's a personal decision, but that decision has consequences including getting covid and dying. If your kid is high risk, then keep them away from potential carriers. If your kid is low risk, then catching covid isn't a big deal- statistically there are greater threats to kids under 12 that we don't alter society to avoid

I am sorry. If your kid is positive and a symptomatic- missing two weeks won’t kill them. People tend to forget that a lot of high risk kids cannot access virtual and need to be in school. We have several ID and IDS rooms where kids have a lot of medical needs. You are extremely selfish if you are ok with your child going to school with covid because you don’t want them to miss out. There will also be pregnant teachers whom even if vaccinated are still high risk cause immunocompromised. Kid has covid-stay home!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

Youngkin and the Virginia GOP certainly hope so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

And when hospital capacity isn't saturated, then it won't be warranted, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

I don’t think we’ll get to that point. I also don’t think the teachers’ unions will call for all virtual school. That’s widely unpopular with staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LA County is doing weekly testing of staff and students.

there is zero chance that I'd consent to that and risk weeks of no school while my asymptomatic kid quarantines.

If your kid has covid and is asymptomatic, they should quarantine so they don’t spread it.

I'd rather not know in the first place if there is no plan for virtual while they quarantine

So you’d rather not know & let your kid go around spreading it?

If they school has no way to provide school to kids in quarantine, yes. At this point if you aren't vaccinated it's a personal decision, but that decision has consequences including getting covid and dying. If your kid is high risk, then keep them away from potential carriers. If your kid is low risk, then catching covid isn't a big deal- statistically there are greater threats to kids under 12 that we don't alter society to avoid

I am sorry. If your kid is positive and a symptomatic- missing two weeks won’t kill them. People tend to forget that a lot of high risk kids cannot access virtual and need to be in school. We have several ID and IDS rooms where kids have a lot of medical needs. You are extremely selfish if you are ok with your child going to school with covid because you don’t want them to miss out. There will also be pregnant teachers whom even if vaccinated are still high risk cause immunocompromised. Kid has covid-stay home!

FCPS isn't offering virtual. If the kid has to miss school until they test positive, you are talking about a significant portion of a the school year. I'd rather just not consent to testing. If a kid is immunocpromised in a pandemic, maybe a school building is a bad place for them; even with testing, there will be a lag between the test and the results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

I don’t think we’ll get to that point. I also don’t think the teachers’ unions will call for all virtual school. That’s widely unpopular with staff.

Staff with ES age children might feel different.

In my mind, it’s ridiculous to send unvaccinated ES children into a situation where an some estimate that 40% of them will be sick (with about 20% of them developing a long term complication) when we are SO CLOSE to a vaccine. It would be insane to have made children give up so much since March of 2020 for others only to fling them into harms ways 5 feet before the finish line.

My kids are staying home. That is my choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

I don’t think we’ll get to that point. I also don’t think the teachers’ unions will call for all virtual school. That’s widely unpopular with staff.

Staff with ES age children might feel different.

In my mind, it’s ridiculous to send unvaccinated ES children into a situation where an some estimate that 40% of them will be sick (with about 20% of them developing a long term complication) when we are SO CLOSE to a vaccine. It would be insane to have made children give up so much since March of 2020 for others only to fling them into harms ways 5 feet before the finish line.

My kids are staying home. That is my choice.

It's still speculation if/when a pediatric vaccine will be approved. The safety data has to bear out an EUA designation. I'd also guess that less than 50% of ES will get vaccinated for various reasons. If you want to keep your kids home...fine, you'll have to explain that choice to them and make them okay with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

I don’t think we’ll get to that point. I also don’t think the teachers’ unions will call for all virtual school. That’s widely unpopular with staff.

Staff with ES age children might feel different.

In my mind, it’s ridiculous to send unvaccinated ES children into a situation where an some estimate that 40% of them will be sick (with about 20% of them developing a long term complication) when we are SO CLOSE to a vaccine. It would be insane to have made children give up so much since March of 2020 for others only to fling them into harms ways 5 feet before the finish line.

My kids are staying home. That is my choice.

do you have any source for 20% of infected children developing longterm complications?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

I agree. And if they do, it will mean hospital capacity is saturated or about to be, so it will be 100% warranted.

I don’t think we’ll get to that point. I also don’t think the teachers’ unions will call for all virtual school. That’s widely unpopular with staff.

Staff with ES age children might feel different.

In my mind, it’s ridiculous to send unvaccinated ES children into a situation where an some estimate that 40% of them will be sick (with about 20% of them developing a long term complication) when we are SO CLOSE to a vaccine. It would be insane to have made children give up so much since March of 2020 for others only to fling them into harms ways 5 feet before the finish line.

My kids are staying home. That is my choice.

WHy are you taking for granted that a vaccine for kids will be approved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

Depends on how quick they are to act. Evidence from UK and other countries shows there is about 50 days to reach peak delta. That would be around the time of school starting. If numbers are going down at that point, then as long as school is opened, there might not be any changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think everyone should be prepared for 100% virtual school this fall due to delta.

The school boards and teachers unions will demand it.

Mark. My. Words.

You’re insane. SB 1303. Try and get around that and Governor Youngkin will not allow come January. Some of you people are really sick trying to force another year of virtual upon kids. Mental health care is available for your anxiety.