Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

I suspect that Meren is angry that Fox Mill was included in 3 of the 4 scenarios because it puts her in a weird position with SLHS. She has been going after Reid in her videos, facebook posts, and emails since the map reveals.

I was surprised that Fox Mill was in so many of the move scenarios. It makes sense to me because Fox Mill is close to KAA, attends Carson, and would be moved with the other Carson base schools. Meren is in a tough spot because Vienna is not happy about the boundary moves suggested for them and she is worried about losing Floris and Fox Mill from SLHS.

[Anonymous]

I don't mean to revisit the historical baggage, but Fox Mill seem always get what they want.

They had the Pinecrest overpass over FFX parkway that supposed to be a traffic light, and then they successfully stalled McLearen extension for 30 years.

Comparing the Fox mill housing block isolated to outside traffic to Franklin Farm which was dissected in half, I don't know...

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Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.

Lol why?

Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.

I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.

Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.

That’s fair.

But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?

I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.

Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.

KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill

Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton

Here's a boundary proposal that night have support from various communities.

West of West Ox crossfield families go to KAA, East of West Ox crossfield families stay at Oakton HS.

This results in the west of West Ox crossfield families, Franklin Farm and neighbor communities all being happier with shorter bus rides.

East of West Ox crossfield family can stay at Oakton HS as the commute time is about same for them between KAA and Oakton HS.

So everybody is happy and relieved overcrowding issue in Oakton HS has great potentialto be resolved?

Crossfield family all happy now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think KAA is way more luxurious than Oakton HS. Oakton HS, even after it's recent renovation doesn't come close facilities wise.

I get it why Fox Mill want to go KAA, I just do not understand why the ones wanting to go to KAA are being so nasty!

Shame on the Fox Mill that attack! Kudos to Fox Mill family who stood up and do the right thing!

What Fox Mill families are attacking? The comments I see complaining about the Oakton campaign are coming from the Crossfield families that want to move and are annoyed that the Oakton families are claiming to speak for everyone in their community. I am pretty sure that the people with the map data are Crossfield families that want to go to KAA because of the long bus rides.

Fox Mill was not, and to be frank is not, expecting to be moved. Some of us would be happy to be moved but we were surprised to see Fox Mill included in 3 of the 4 scenarios.

Fox Mill SPA numbers and membership were published with the Coates boundary study. Crossfield had SPAs but no numbers. Fox Mill SPA membership numbers total 533. The school had 135 transferring in for JIP. No JIP at Hughes/South Lakes and leave it at Carson/Western. 71% of the Fox Mill current base school to the new Western HS. 100% if there are SPA boundary changes with Crossfield.

3 SPAs west of 286=169, 32%
3 SPAs school site+2 adjacent=210, 39%
1 SPA juts into Dogwood=25
3 SPAs totaling 129 that could boundary change into Crossfield 24%. Swap with 1 or more adjacent to 286.

Please explain. I don't understand your result as it applies to boundaries.

Oct 2025 FCPS made public SPAs [student planning areas] FCPS with no student count for grade levels K-6, MS, HS OR school assignment. FCPS removed the Coates study recently with student counts. The document removed had students K-6 at Fox Mill for school year 2024-25 by SPA along with all other schools actually to be used on the Coates study.. Look up the Fox Mill SPAs for location on this:
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-10/2025-26_student_planning_areas_map.pdf

Fox Mill counts were:

2511 = 25
2524 = 41
2523 = 40
2521 = 48
2514 = 111 Fox Mill
2519 = 73 Fox Mill Site
2520 = 26 Fox Mill
2510 = 59 Fox Mill west of 286
2517 = 60 Fox Mill west of 286
2515 = 50 Fox Mill west of 286
533


The Coates study page still exists but leads to squat: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/Coates-Area-Boundary-Maps.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.

Lol why?

Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.

I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.

Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.

That’s fair.

But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?

I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.

Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.

KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill

Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton

Here's a boundary proposal that night have support from various communities.

West of West Ox crossfield families go to KAA, East of West Ox crossfield families stay at Oakton HS.

This results in the west of West Ox crossfield families, Franklin Farm and neighbor communities all being happier with shorter bus rides.

East of West Ox crossfield family can stay at Oakton HS as the commute time is about same for them between KAA and Oakton HS.

So everybody is happy and relieved overcrowding issue in Oakton HS has great potentialto be resolved?

Crossfield family all happy now?

Hahaha no. Some of the loudest Oakton forever people live in Franklin Farm.

[Anonymous]

So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the number of Floris kids that are at SLHS is around 160 so it should be easy to add them onto option A without pulling all of Fox Mill. Those neighborhoods are half the distance to KAA.

This seems to me to be the most geographically logical and numerically answer for membership at KAA.
Option A with all of Floris.

THIS, most geographically/numerically logical and likely least BROADLY contentious.

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Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

I'm a Franklin Farm resident. My neighbors need to get a grip. Western HS/KAA is going to be a dream school.

The only thing that might be crappy is for elite athletes who could be Varsity starters all four years of high school but who might not have access to Varsity-level sports at the new school in the first year or two.

Otherwise, it's a dream! New schools often draw top talent with regard to teachers and admin, the resources (e.g., robotics lab, ceramics lab, pool, and auditorium) available are top-tier, and the commute is significantly less scary for a teen driver.

Oakton has been great, as has Chantilly for the other side of Franklin Farm. I'm sure Western/KAA will be just as good.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Farm's geography does not represent the whole of those situated inside Crossfield's borders.

Some Franklin Farm families far in the west are 10 min closer to KAA than Oakton. Some Franklin Farm families near west ox live within a few min difference between KAA and Oakton. It's a very very wide neighborhood

Other communities outside live only a couple min difference between KAA and Oakton.

A couple minutes ride difference is not conderation factor for the crossfield families that do not want to move. It's a total wash given where your kid is on the bus route. My kids friends ride the bus to their current school and have pickup times up to 40 minutes apart!

But for Franklin farm families that have been so outspoken it appears to be a matter of great concern. So the commute might make sense for the part off Franklin really close to KAA, if they're driving their kids to school, but most people use the bus to begin with.

Franklin farm's location can not be used as evaluation factor for ride difference and the ride difference is not significant at all due to the nature of bus routes since they meander all over the place.

You are either full of it or do not understand which homes are actually Franklin Farm. The distance to Oakton HS from the part of Franklin Farm closest to West Ox is 9-10 miles. Distance to KAA from there? 3-3.2 miles. You are also forgetting a little thing called rush hour traffic. Which commute is impacted more by that, do you think? And a bus doesn't have to "meander all over the place" when it's picking up a large number of kids from a small number of stops in one neighborhood and heading straight to the school.

Everyone's experience is different. If you are in a lower density neighborhood your kids bus doesn't fill up in one stop. It goes all over the place until full.

I just put in Google maps how long it takes from crossfield to oakton and to kaa. For those situated near crossfield itself it's a very different story for those in Franklin farm.

Oakton 15 min. Kaa 15 min. Try it yourself. You may understand that your experience is vastly different than others.

Again - the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield. There are elementary schools that are closer to our homes than Crossfield, too. I live closer to Oak Hill, Navy, and Fox Mill than I do to Crossfield.

People just blatantly lying now... I put it into google maps. It's 13 or 14 minutes from Crossfield to KAA depending on the route. 17-18 minutes to Oakton. Also, the route from Crossfield to KAA is all main roads where the route to Oakton is all back roads. Picking kids up spread out on back roads will take MUCH longer, and forget it if there's any inclement weather. Also, I live about as close as you can to Oakton and go to Crossfield. It still says it'll take 16-19 minutes to Oakton and 9-13 to KAA. This however wouldn't affect me because I'd plan to drive my kids to Oakton. I also prefer to stay at Oakton than go to a new and unknown school starting out as a complete cluster fnck. I can say, yes it would make more sense for us to go to the Western High School if it was only based on distance. I can also say I'd be pretty pissed because we moved from a house near the new Western High School 6 years ago in order to go to a better high school - Oakton.

I'm not lying. Look up any house in the western part of Crossfield boundaries and you will see that they are closer to Oak Hill, Navy, Fox Mill ES. I went to a brand new high school in the 90s and it was GREAT - all the good teachers wanted to work there because it was shiny and new and they had a chance to escape department chairs that were stuck in their ways and start new and fresh. From what I've heard, there is a lot of interest in the new school from high school teachers across the county. I don't have elite athletes, but I could imagine that there's similar interest from assistant coaches at local high schools - this is their chance to get out from under long-time coaches and start their own sports programs.

I will say that I wish they were waiting a year so that they could get construction done before there are students in the building, but personally I'm excited about the new school. I think it has the chance to become one of the better schools in Fairfax County!

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Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

Why do people keep saying it's a Franklin Farm issue - yes, the ringleaders of this movement live in Franklin Farm, but I would say that less than 50% of Crossfield's population lives in that neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Farm's geography does not represent the whole of those situated inside Crossfield's borders.

Some Franklin Farm families far in the west are 10 min closer to KAA than Oakton. Some Franklin Farm families near west ox live within a few min difference between KAA and Oakton. It's a very very wide neighborhood

Other communities outside live only a couple min difference between KAA and Oakton.

A couple minutes ride difference is not conderation factor for the crossfield families that do not want to move. It's a total wash given where your kid is on the bus route. My kids friends ride the bus to their current school and have pickup times up to 40 minutes apart!

But for Franklin farm families that have been so outspoken it appears to be a matter of great concern. So the commute might make sense for the part off Franklin really close to KAA, if they're driving their kids to school, but most people use the bus to begin with.

Franklin farm's location can not be used as evaluation factor for ride difference and the ride difference is not significant at all due to the nature of bus routes since they meander all over the place.

You are either full of it or do not understand which homes are actually Franklin Farm. The distance to Oakton HS from the part of Franklin Farm closest to West Ox is 9-10 miles. Distance to KAA from there? 3-3.2 miles. You are also forgetting a little thing called rush hour traffic. Which commute is impacted more by that, do you think? And a bus doesn't have to "meander all over the place" when it's picking up a large number of kids from a small number of stops in one neighborhood and heading straight to the school.

Everyone's experience is different. If you are in a lower density neighborhood your kids bus doesn't fill up in one stop. It goes all over the place until full.

I just put in Google maps how long it takes from crossfield to oakton and to kaa. For those situated near crossfield itself it's a very different story for those in Franklin farm.

Oakton 15 min. Kaa 15 min. Try it yourself. You may understand that your experience is vastly different than others.

Again - the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield. There are elementary schools that are closer to our homes than Crossfield, too. I live closer to Oak Hill, Navy, and Fox Mill than I do to Crossfield.

People just blatantly lying now... I put it into google maps. It's 13 or 14 minutes from Crossfield to KAA depending on the route. 17-18 minutes to Oakton. Also, the route from Crossfield to KAA is all main roads where the route to Oakton is all back roads. Picking kids up spread out on back roads will take MUCH longer, and forget it if there's any inclement weather. Also, I live about as close as you can to Oakton and go to Crossfield. It still says it'll take 16-19 minutes to Oakton and 9-13 to KAA. This however wouldn't affect me because I'd plan to drive my kids to Oakton. I also prefer to stay at Oakton than go to a new and unknown school starting out as a complete cluster fnck. I can say, yes it would make more sense for us to go to the Western High School if it was only based on distance. I can also say I'd be pretty pissed because we moved from a house near the new Western High School 6 years ago in order to go to a better high school - Oakton.

I'm not lying. Look up any house in the western part of Crossfield boundaries and you will see that they are closer to Oak Hill, Navy, Fox Mill ES. I went to a brand new high school in the 90s and it was GREAT - all the good teachers wanted to work there because it was shiny and new and they had a chance to escape department chairs that were stuck in their ways and start new and fresh. From what I've heard, there is a lot of interest in the new school from high school teachers across the county. I don't have elite athletes, but I could imagine that there's similar interest from assistant coaches at local high schools - this is their chance to get out from under long-time coaches and start their own sports programs.

I will say that I wish they were waiting a year so that they could get construction done before there are students in the building, but personally I'm excited about the new school. I think it has the chance to become one of the better schools in Fairfax County!

It will be like Fairfax High, just further west.

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Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

Why do people keep saying it's a Franklin Farm issue - yes, the ringleaders of this movement live in Franklin Farm, but I would say that less than 50% of Crossfield's population lives in that neighborhood.

I named a bunch of neighborhoods west of West Ox Rd that also go to Crossfield that are not Franklin Farm. And there are several others.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Farm's geography does not represent the whole of those situated inside Crossfield's borders.

Some Franklin Farm families far in the west are 10 min closer to KAA than Oakton. Some Franklin Farm families near west ox live within a few min difference between KAA and Oakton. It's a very very wide neighborhood

Other communities outside live only a couple min difference between KAA and Oakton.

A couple minutes ride difference is not conderation factor for the crossfield families that do not want to move. It's a total wash given where your kid is on the bus route. My kids friends ride the bus to their current school and have pickup times up to 40 minutes apart!

But for Franklin farm families that have been so outspoken it appears to be a matter of great concern. So the commute might make sense for the part off Franklin really close to KAA, if they're driving their kids to school, but most people use the bus to begin with.

Franklin farm's location can not be used as evaluation factor for ride difference and the ride difference is not significant at all due to the nature of bus routes since they meander all over the place.

You are either full of it or do not understand which homes are actually Franklin Farm. The distance to Oakton HS from the part of Franklin Farm closest to West Ox is 9-10 miles. Distance to KAA from there? 3-3.2 miles. You are also forgetting a little thing called rush hour traffic. Which commute is impacted more by that, do you think? And a bus doesn't have to "meander all over the place" when it's picking up a large number of kids from a small number of stops in one neighborhood and heading straight to the school.

Everyone's experience is different. If you are in a lower density neighborhood your kids bus doesn't fill up in one stop. It goes all over the place until full.

I just put in Google maps how long it takes from crossfield to oakton and to kaa. For those situated near crossfield itself it's a very different story for those in Franklin farm.

Oakton 15 min. Kaa 15 min. Try it yourself. You may understand that your experience is vastly different than others.

Again - the vast majority of kids who go to Crossfield live nowhere near Crossfield. There are elementary schools that are closer to our homes than Crossfield, too. I live closer to Oak Hill, Navy, and Fox Mill than I do to Crossfield.

People just blatantly lying now... I put it into google maps. It's 13 or 14 minutes from Crossfield to KAA depending on the route. 17-18 minutes to Oakton. Also, the route from Crossfield to KAA is all main roads where the route to Oakton is all back roads. Picking kids up spread out on back roads will take MUCH longer, and forget it if there's any inclement weather. Also, I live about as close as you can to Oakton and go to Crossfield. It still says it'll take 16-19 minutes to Oakton and 9-13 to KAA. This however wouldn't affect me because I'd plan to drive my kids to Oakton. I also prefer to stay at Oakton than go to a new and unknown school starting out as a complete cluster fnck. I can say, yes it would make more sense for us to go to the Western High School if it was only based on distance. I can also say I'd be pretty pissed because we moved from a house near the new Western High School 6 years ago in order to go to a better high school - Oakton.

I'm not lying. Look up any house in the western part of Crossfield boundaries and you will see that they are closer to Oak Hill, Navy, Fox Mill ES. I went to a brand new high school in the 90s and it was GREAT - all the good teachers wanted to work there because it was shiny and new and they had a chance to escape department chairs that were stuck in their ways and start new and fresh. From what I've heard, there is a lot of interest in the new school from high school teachers across the county. I don't have elite athletes, but I could imagine that there's similar interest from assistant coaches at local high schools - this is their chance to get out from under long-time coaches and start their own sports programs.

I will say that I wish they were waiting a year so that they could get construction done before there are students in the building, but personally I'm excited about the new school. I think it has the chance to become one of the better schools in Fairfax County!

It will be like Fairfax High, just further west.

What is your thought process in this comparison? A genuine question.

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Anonymous wrote:Now Fox Mill move to KAA in 3 of 4 scenarios, every FCPS residents should be concerned ans shocked.

Lol why?

Options C and D keep Discovery Square at Westfield instead of KAA--which is less than 2 miles away. I do not see this happening.

I see Option A or B with slight adjustments.

Most logical is option A--with addition of ALL Floris students.

That’s fair.

But why should FCPS residents be concerned and shocked about Fox Mill going to new school?

I don't see them sending Fox Mill unless they send all of Floris.
I don't see Meren (who seems to oppose KAA) voting to empty South Lakes of the neighborhoods given to South Lakes in the South Lakes Boundary Study. That would be two schools (or one and a half) removed from South Lakes--which is not overcrowded.

Oakton--which is approaching capacity--is a very long way from Franklin Farm (where most Crossfield kids live.)
The Crossfield neighborhoods are a short distance from KAA.
It eliminates the very long bus transportation required for Crossfield to Oakton.

KAA is in Sully District.
Oakton is in Providence, I think.
South Lakes is in Hunter Mill.
Franklin Farm (Crossfield students) is in Sully.
Floris students are Sully/Hunter Mill

Sully District SB member: Seema Dixit
Hunter Mill District SB: Melanie Meren
Providence: Karl Frisch--who has expressed concern about bus trip and potential overcrowding at Oakton

Here's a boundary proposal that night have support from various communities.

West of West Ox crossfield families go to KAA, East of West Ox crossfield families stay at Oakton HS.

This results in the west of West Ox crossfield families, Franklin Farm and neighbor communities all being happier with shorter bus rides.

East of West Ox crossfield family can stay at Oakton HS as the commute time is about same for them between KAA and Oakton HS.

So everybody is happy and relieved overcrowding issue in Oakton HS has great potentialto be resolved?

Crossfield family all happy now?

Please send the Navy people west of West ox also to Western.

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Anonymous wrote:So it is not crossfield issue then, it is Franklin Farm issue.

Franklin Farm does not need to persuade anybody else that they want to go to KAA because of a shorter commute.

Franklin farm just needs to figure out what your whole community needs.

Why do people keep saying it's a Franklin Farm issue - yes, the ringleaders of this movement live in Franklin Farm, but I would say that less than 50% of Crossfield's population lives in that neighborhood.

I named a bunch of neighborhoods west of West Ox Rd that also go to Crossfield that are not Franklin Farm. And there are several others.

So these neighborhoods other than Franklin Farm west of West Ox Rd want to go to KAA or Oakton HS.

Vocal Franklin Farm families said majority crossfield families live in Franklin Farm.