New OPM memo on RTO

[Anonymous]

Well the new version is much better written than the old version. I hope someone saved that old version for posterity's sake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the new version is much better written than the old version. I hope someone saved that old version for posterity's sake.

Version of what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m at a private company that did RTO about a year ago. I agree this is all dumb and performative, but it won’t actually be that bad. Everyone at my company just leaves at 3:30-4 to get kids, beat traffic, etc. It’s technically not allowed but all the managers look the other way because they are doing the same thing. I work fewer hours than I used to even though total time commitment with the commute is about the same.

This. Same experience. I find it bizarre that it’s now acceptable to work from 9:30 AM - 4 PM. Sometimes I even leave at 3.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SSA just killed telework, so retirees are about to feel some serious pain.

Don't they have a telework agreement in place?

They did, through 2029, but revoked it anyway. Telework was the only thing keeping those appeals attorneys there.

Where is the evidence it was revoked? (you can’t revoke a CBA, it’s legally binding).

Someone is trolling. And not well.

The Department of Labor ignored multiple CBAs and ordered their staff back to the office last summer. At least one of the unions sued and as far as I know there has been no court decision yet, but the staff is back in their cubicles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s called before care and after school, provided at the school. Starting at 7 am in the morning and ending at 5 pm in the evening.

And every single one has a waitlist that is years long. Try again.

There are always options outside of school. You need to try harder.

Not in Arl. For years, they always were able to hire more people for extended day, so there was no market for outside options. Now they do not have any way to make up the staff and so most schools have a long waitlist, but no businesses are venturing for a pick up at the school yet

Save your breath. This troll is well fed already.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the reality is they are just trying to drive out as many people as possible to reduce severance package pay outs.

A huge portion of the government is retirement eligible. We're going to see a wave of retirements and it will start to impact businesses. Air traffic control is already dangerously low in staffing, so flights will quickly be affected. People submit applications for various licenses from the government, and not being able to get those licenses, not being able to export things, etc will eventually cost businesses money and they will report that to their representatives. Alternatively, we'll just have to eliminate many licensing requirements. I'm not entirely opposed to that, but certain things that affect public safety like airplane design certifications and inspections-- we probably need those.

How many air traffic controllers are WFH?

More than you would expect. Check BLS or DOL data, there are around 400 controllers in the US that WFH.

In Europe most ATC operate remotely, sometimes hundreds of miles from their airfield.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Best part is most of y'all voted for this!!!!!! lol.

Not one person I work with voted for this.

People who voted for Biden voted for this. Next time please send an energetic, likeable, competent candidate to the White House.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SSA just killed telework, so retirees are about to feel some serious pain.

Don't they have a telework agreement in place?

They did, through 2029, but revoked it anyway. Telework was the only thing keeping those appeals attorneys there.

Where is the evidence it was revoked? (you can’t revoke a CBA, it’s legally binding).

Someone is trolling. And not well.

The Department of Labor ignored multiple CBAs and ordered their staff back to the office last summer. At least one of the unions sued and as far as I know there has been no court decision yet, but the staff is back in their cubicles.

I don’t think that’s right. From what I’ve read, their existing CBAs didn’t address telework. The union tried to get that added, but DoL refused to add it. They then went to the impasse panel, but DoL withdrew from negotiations.

https://www.afge.org/globalassets/documents/dol/ncfll-fsip-letter-hon.bernie-sanders.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Best part is most of y'all voted for this!!!!!! lol.

Not one person I work with voted for this.

People who voted for Biden voted for this. Next time please send an energetic, likeable, competent candidate to the White House.

Are you this dumb in real life?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best part is most of y'all voted for this!!!!!! lol.

Not one person I work with voted for this.

People who voted for Biden voted for this. Next time please send an energetic, likeable, competent candidate to the White House.

Are you blaming Biden for this? lol. This is all you MAGA, go back to the office!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m at a private company that did RTO about a year ago. I agree this is all dumb and performative, but it won’t actually be that bad. Everyone at my company just leaves at 3:30-4 to get kids, beat traffic, etc. It’s technically not allowed but all the managers look the other way because they are doing the same thing. I work fewer hours than I used to even though total time commitment with the commute is about the same.

This gets you on a PIP in my fed office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m at a private company that did RTO about a year ago. I agree this is all dumb and performative, but it won’t actually be that bad. Everyone at my company just leaves at 3:30-4 to get kids, beat traffic, etc. It’s technically not allowed but all the managers look the other way because they are doing the same thing. I work fewer hours than I used to even though total time commitment with the commute is about the same.

This gets you on a PIP in my fed office.

Bring on the PIP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSA just killed telework, so retirees are about to feel some serious pain.

Don't they have a telework agreement in place?

They did, through 2029, but revoked it anyway. Telework was the only thing keeping those appeals attorneys there.

Where is the evidence it was revoked? (you can’t revoke a CBA, it’s legally binding).

Someone is trolling. And not well.

The Department of Labor ignored multiple CBAs and ordered their staff back to the office last summer. At least one of the unions sued and as far as I know there has been no court decision yet, but the staff is back in their cubicles.

I don’t think that’s right. From what I’ve read, their existing CBAs didn’t address telework. The union tried to get that added, but DoL refused to add it. They then went to the impasse panel, but DoL withdrew from negotiations.

https://www.afge.org/globalassets/documents/dol/ncfll-fsip-letter-hon.bernie-sanders.pdf

So does this mean there is no CBA in effect wrt telework at DOL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the new version is much better written than the old version. I hope someone saved that old version for posterity's sake.

amanda scales isn’t the brightest tool in the shed.