Bridgerton Season 3

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Really? Have you seen, say, Melinda Gates? There are so many women who are not super thin at all married to very wealthy men. Personally I see plenty of women of all sizes paired up with attractive or successful men. Maybe if you look around a bit you might notice it more and realize some of that may be your own projections...

Her husband cheated on her repeatedly and now they are divorced. What's your point with this example again?

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Anonymous wrote:Can we pivot to the weird ensembles they put Colin in for the promo photos? They do not make him look more attractive.

I’m enjoying this season because the show is frothy fun but they are not my favorite pairing and I actually think this is a weaker story.

To me they’re the most compelling pairing. Found the first two seasons a bit annoying and focused too much on lust and status. I enjoyed the love match story with Colin and Penelope.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.

I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.

I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.

Betcha you just can’t stand that white people are paired with black actors in the show too, can you? Your “solidly upper class elite world” probably doesn’t give you many examples does it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.

I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.

+1 when I see a good looking buff man with a heavy woman, I wonder if the woman used to be thin or does he just have some kind of fetish?

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Really? Have you seen, say, Melinda Gates? There are so many women who are not super thin at all married to very wealthy men. Personally I see plenty of women of all sizes paired up with attractive or successful men. Maybe if you look around a bit you might notice it more and realize some of that may be your own projections...

Her husband cheated on her repeatedly and now they are divorced. What's your point with this example again?

Melinda Gates was a pretty trim woman when she married Bill Gates. Neither were stunners and in terms of looks very well matched.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.

I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.

Betcha you just can’t stand that white people are paired with black actors in the show too, can you? Your “solidly upper class elite world” probably doesn’t give you many examples does it.

You are upset that in real life people's attractions are governed by remarkably consistent standards over the generations. Bridgerton is fantasy to the extreme. In the real world, the tall, hot studly Ralph Lauren model does not chase after the fat tattooed woman.

[Anonymous]

I think NC has a fairly unusual body type (extremely voluptuous but short and still proportional -- she's like Christina Hendricks but a half a foot shorter) so she's not just a short woman who gained a bunch of weight at midlife or something. Her body is literally just built like that -- hourglass shape but with a shorter torso and shorter legs than someone like Hendricks.

But the women I've known who ARE built like that do extremely well with men. Some men are obsessed with thinness in women but plenty of men are not and there are lots of men who like a short woman (makes them feel tall) and a curvy figure. I had a friend in college like this and she was never single and then married really well.

I'm skinny and above average height but I'm also flat chested and have a plain face and when we went out together men mostly only saw her (I'm okay with it as I'm not a social butterfly anyway and wouldn't have known what to do with the attention but just to be clear that men were not turned off by her body at all).

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Anonymous wrote:I think NC has a fairly unusual body type (extremely voluptuous but short and still proportional -- she's like Christina Hendricks but a half a foot shorter) so she's not just a short woman who gained a bunch of weight at midlife or something. Her body is literally just built like that -- hourglass shape but with a shorter torso and shorter legs than someone like Hendricks.

But the women I've known who ARE built like that do extremely well with men. Some men are obsessed with thinness in women but plenty of men are not and there are lots of men who like a short woman (makes them feel tall) and a curvy figure. I had a friend in college like this and she was never single and then married really well.

I'm skinny and above average height but I'm also flat chested and have a plain face and when we went out together men mostly only saw her (I'm okay with it as I'm not a social butterfly anyway and wouldn't have known what to do with the attention but just to be clear that men were not turned off by her body at all).

Show me a tall, hot successful financier/billionaire who married a short dumpy woman (ok voluptuous) with a round piggy face in real life and you'd have a point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think NC has a fairly unusual body type (extremely voluptuous but short and still proportional -- she's like Christina Hendricks but a half a foot shorter) so she's not just a short woman who gained a bunch of weight at midlife or something. Her body is literally just built like that -- hourglass shape but with a shorter torso and shorter legs than someone like Hendricks.

But the women I've known who ARE built like that do extremely well with men. Some men are obsessed with thinness in women but plenty of men are not and there are lots of men who like a short woman (makes them feel tall) and a curvy figure. I had a friend in college like this and she was never single and then married really well.

I'm skinny and above average height but I'm also flat chested and have a plain face and when we went out together men mostly only saw her (I'm okay with it as I'm not a social butterfly anyway and wouldn't have known what to do with the attention but just to be clear that men were not turned off by her body at all).

Show me a tall, hot successful financier/billionaire who married a short dumpy woman (ok voluptuous) with a round piggy face in real life and you'd have a point.

Pretty sure closeted men often married unattractive women with limited options for whom they assumed they were doing a favor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.

I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.

Yes.

The truth is that the ideal body type in the Regency era was...thin. Pale and thin, with bright eyes and cheeks. You guys have heard of tuberculosis chic, right? https://blog.sciencemuseum.org.uk/tuberculosis-a-fashionable-disease/. And belladonna to give you that glassy tuberculor sheen?

The West's "first real celebrity", Regency era Lord Byron, had a huge influence on the young people of his day. He set various fashion trends, with men trying to emulate that pale, moody Byronic hero and women obsessing and nursing crushes on the By. Byron, who had struggled with his weight in the past and probably had a legitimate eating disorder, did whatever he could to become thin, and he famously hated fat women (said women should only be seen eating champagne or lobster). https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16351761

So, no, a chubby woman like Penelope would not have been considered attractive by Regency standards. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.

Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.

So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.

Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.

See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.

And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.

Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.

I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.

Betcha you just can’t stand that white people are paired with black actors in the show too, can you? Your “solidly upper class elite world” probably doesn’t give you many examples does it.

You are upset that in real life people's attractions are governed by remarkably consistent standards over the generations. Bridgerton is fantasy to the extreme. In the real world, the tall, hot studly Ralph Lauren model does not chase after the fat tattooed woman.

+1

And he never did.

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Anonymous wrote:I think NC has a fairly unusual body type (extremely voluptuous but short and still proportional -- she's like Christina Hendricks but a half a foot shorter) so she's not just a short woman who gained a bunch of weight at midlife or something. Her body is literally just built like that -- hourglass shape but with a shorter torso and shorter legs than someone like Hendricks.

But the women I've known who ARE built like that do extremely well with men. Some men are obsessed with thinness in women but plenty of men are not and there are lots of men who like a short woman (makes them feel tall) and a curvy figure. I had a friend in college like this and she was never single and then married really well.

I'm skinny and above average height but I'm also flat chested and have a plain face and when we went out together men mostly only saw her (I'm okay with it as I'm not a social butterfly anyway and wouldn't have known what to do with the attention but just to be clear that men were not turned off by her body at all).

Show me a tall, hot successful financier/billionaire who married a short dumpy woman (ok voluptuous) with a round piggy face in real life and you'd have a point.

What a cruel way to describe someone’s looks.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely revolted by the Benedict having sec with a man storyline - yuck!!!!! They ruined one of my favorite characters with that crap!

This!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think NC has a fairly unusual body type (extremely voluptuous but short and still proportional -- she's like Christina Hendricks but a half a foot shorter) so she's not just a short woman who gained a bunch of weight at midlife or something. Her body is literally just built like that -- hourglass shape but with a shorter torso and shorter legs than someone like Hendricks.

But the women I've known who ARE built like that do extremely well with men. Some men are obsessed with thinness in women but plenty of men are not and there are lots of men who like a short woman (makes them feel tall) and a curvy figure. I had a friend in college like this and she was never single and then married really well.

I'm skinny and above average height but I'm also flat chested and have a plain face and when we went out together men mostly only saw her (I'm okay with it as I'm not a social butterfly anyway and wouldn't have known what to do with the attention but just to be clear that men were not turned off by her body at all).

Show me a tall, hot successful financier/billionaire who married a short dumpy woman (ok voluptuous) with a round piggy face in real life and you'd have a point.

What a cruel way to describe someone’s looks.

Exactly. One must only describe the Bridgerton actors as beautiful and talented. All of them. Everything is beautiful and good about Bridgerton. In fact, this thread should be renamed "Everything that is good about Bridgerton Season 3" so that we can all understand the rules. Sunshine and rainbows and birdies!

Criticism and debate are so mean!