Are we surprised? As it ever was, it was ever thus.
Colin is not a Duke. Also this is not the Regency era -- marrying an account manager in the food and supplements industry was not really an option available to men from titled families in that era. You were supposed to marry a fellow member of the ton and you couldn't just pick the hottest lady your college chums could introduce you to
Do you really want to talk about unrealistic? It is unrealistic that the average attractiveness of any of this cast is as high as it is because in actual Regency England this group of people would be a bunch of inbred weirdos. The actresses playing Violet or Ladies Featherington or Danbury or Daphne or the Queen or Cressida or (yes) Penelope would all have been vastly considered above average. Also anyone with straight white teeth would be an anomaly (or presumed to have fake teeth). Women did not have access to proper hair care or quality make up and people got sick all the time with like scarlet fever and other maladies that would impact their appearance. A whole cast of healthy and attractive people is totally unrepresentative of the time even before you get to the race stuff. But I don't want to watch a show featuring a bunch of weak chinned sickly waifs with yellow teeth so I'm okay with it.
The people freaking out about how Penelope couldn't land Colin because she's (gasp!) a bit short and round and it's all so UNREALISTIC have decided to melt down over a detail that isn't even an anachronism in a show that is absolutely with actual anachronisms -- I think we can all guess why
Eh. The upper classes of the 18th century and regency era were far better looking than the general population. Health and diet goes a long way in explaining why. If you'd spent any time studying and reading books of the era, you'd know they were just as obsessed by beauty and physical appearances as we are today - along with wealth and pedigree and classes and titles and all the vanities of the era. People were also far more frank and brutal in their descriptions of people. Calling a girl plain and unattractive was normal. Pick up a few of Austen's books if you want a taste of the era. Vanity Fair is also a good read.
These people absolutely most definitely followed beauty and fashion, just as we did today.
Ma'am, you do know that portraiture of these people was required to be flattering, yes? And Georgiana still looks only a little above average there. She also looks to be a solid size 10 or 12. Which is not a complaint, just an observation for everyone who seems think everyone in this era was a sylph.
But thanks for the Jane Austen rec, what a find-- do other people know about her books? They're really good.
Anonymous wrote:I honestly find it weird how many people feel it is necessary to dissect her weight or to go into detail about how her body in the nude scene made them feel. It's like people have this idea that if they think someone is not sufficiently thin it is important to comment on it. Why.
Simone Ashley is very tall. She's only two inches shorter than Jonathan Bailey. This makes her body something of an outlier for women. Yet I have never seen anyone go into detail about how Ashley's sex scenes on Bridgerton really brought up a lot of opinions and feelings about her height. Becasue it's not really relevant. Becasue who cares -- some people are tall.
So I don't get why there are so many comments on this thread just absolutely dissecting Coughlan's body and quibbling over whether it's healthy or not or whether it's attractive or not or whatever. She is short for a woman and her body type is rounder with big boobs. Why do so many of you care SO much. How does this impact you. Does it really change or undermine your enjoyment of this silly stupid show. WHY.
Yeah. There's a lot of weirdness, and dare I say- hostility?- towards the idea that Nicola is a sex symbol here. I have to wonder if it's because many thin women live in a world where they ONLY see thin women treated as the objects of desire and anything that might contradict that narrative feels threatening to them? I'm a slim woman, but I have eyes, and see plenty of mid-sized, chubby, and yes, fat women holding hats with hot men in the real world. i see these women getting married, falling in love, etc. I find it baffling that people are acting like even seeing a woman like this (who, let's be real, more closely resembles the average American woman than all the other love interests) is such a crazy anomaly. Women who look like Nicola fall in love all the time. It really shouldnt be something worth analyzing on this level, and its actually very embarrassing for this website that this has turned into the focus of the thread.
See, I haven't seen this at all with white men in an upper middle class (and up) environment. I wish I did. But in my world (educated, upper middle class world of the Philly suburbs, Baltimore, and now DC) I got crazy amounts of attention (age 20-40) from men when I was a size 4 and pretty much none when my weight crept up to a size 10 (I'm 5'5"). It seriously was remarkable (and f-ing frustrating as someone whose natural set point is probably about a 10). Black men, hispanic men, Indian men, etc. ALL FINE with the extra weight. White men? No, not at all. And I'm not talking "asking me out" attention but EVEN LOOKING at me. When I was heavier i was invisible--so it's not like they secretly found me attractive at a larger size but felt societal pressure to not date a larger woman---they looked through me on sidewalks, etc.
And the higher you go in the social pecking order, the more thin is in. I'm now in upper NW DC at a fancy private school world and everyone is rail thin. Again, when I'm a size 4 I get dads checking me out. At a size 10? Invisible.
Agree. Don't know where that poster is coming from. I live in solidly upper middle class, private school/elite public school world. Handsome men do not go after fat women or heavy women. They just do not. People get heavy as they get older but those are people already married. But good looking men in their 20s and 30s and in the dating market do not go after fat women. They just do not. And when I mean "just do not" I do acknowledge there still are exceptions but those are as rare as hen's teeth. And this is borne out over and over again everywhere in the world of celebrities and socialites, which would be the real life Bridgerton comparison. All the heavy women around me are married to heavy men.
I'm not surprised Bridgerton is finding its fan base among people who need to fantasize an alternative world.
Betcha you just can’t stand that white people are paired with black actors in the show too, can you? Your “solidly upper class elite world” probably doesn’t give you many examples does it.
You are upset that in real life people's attractions are governed by remarkably consistent standards over the generations. Bridgerton is fantasy to the extreme. In the real world, the tall, hot studly Ralph Lauren model does not chase after the fat tattooed woman.
In the real world, the overwhelming majority of those "hot studly models" are gay, or homoflexible at a minimum (I used to work in the industry). The "remarkably consistent standards" you reference are social constructs and control structures. The fantasy isn't just the deviation from them, it's the destruction of them. The construction of an alternative world that isn't governed by that ridiculous nonsense, where people can eat normally and spend their time outside the gym and their money on more than ozempic and elite schools, is quite attractive to people no longer willing to drink the sugar-free, zero-calorie Kool-Aid. The pages of rebellion because OMG a fat woman got her kit off show you just how programmed you are, if you're willing to look.
But it's okay. You're pretty and your spouse is rich, right? That's all that matters (to you).
I agree that I'm not kind. I'm realistic. That's the difference between people who live in delusional woke worlds where life is one perpetual kindergarten where everyone has to be nice and kind to each other, and people who live in the real world driven by biology and sexual desires. Tall handsome successful men do not seek out and pair off with short dumpy women with round heavy faces. Why would they? Pick up any celeb mag, browse through any of the society websites and David Patrick's social diary for the NYC social set, spend any time in popular places for the rich and connected, and you'll soon see what beauty and attractions means to the very rich and the very connected.
You think all the pr0n-programmed, money-grubbing masses acting as they were instructed = "driven by biology and sexual desires"? No, sweetie, and your list of sources to back your claims makes my point. You are eating what you've been served, not what you might've truly wanted. If all you've had your whole life is turd sandwich, you don't understand the joy of cake. And the finance-sexual power fetish you have is, without question, a turd sandwich.
The "beauty" and "attraction" you're talking about are the regurgitated fantasies of a handful of people with a money kink. That's it. It's not "biology" at all, or nobody outside those metrics would reproduce. Yet here you are, ugly as sin, on a parenting forum, strongly suggesting the impossible has happened: something other than what you claim is the inherent biological drive of all humanity allowed someone to fsck you, at least the once.
But don't let me pop your little bubble. Lull yourself back to sleep with the chant of how money and power and being skinny are all that matter in the world, because "biology" told you so... You made all the right choices, which is why you're "winning".
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it's so funny, you can always tell when some woman on here is preternaturally triggered because she put ALL her energy and drive into looking skinny, and is deeply insecure of anyone who doesnt particularly put value on that. The truth is Nicola has absolutely beautiful, porcelain doll features. That's how she's gotten roles and reached this point in her career. And the reality is, while she could easily take Ozempic shots and get skinny in a matter of months, it would be nearly impossible for someone to recreate her doll-like gorgeous features. Maybe the PP is bitter because she's hit in the face and cant stand the fact that many would rank Nicola as much more attractive than her
It actually seems like the people who aren’t thin are triggered based on the responses.
Anonymous wrote:Why is Pen and Colin’s son a Lord Featherington and not Bridgerton?
He is both. Pen's mom has a [fraudulent] document that passes the Featheringtons title on to the first son of any one of her daughters. I guess Pen's sisters had girls.
So the baby is both a Bridgerton and the heir to the Featheringtons title (and their home and any money or rents but it sounds like the Featheringtons fortune was pretty decimated by mismanagement by Pen's father and the relative who inherited (can't remember his name or relation but the one from season 2).
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