So if you wish someone to stay barren on Republican -- that is totally acceptable. If you wish any barren women to stay barren - that is hateful? |
Bama passed a bill to secure IFV. A quote from a MAGA GOP, “We could pass a law limiting the number of eggs you can fertilize in a cycle. But I don’t think we should legislate that,” Stutts said. “I’m not talking about morality, I’m talking about the practice of medicine.”
Do these people not hear themselves! I hope the AL scotus strikes this down. You CANNOT have fetal personhood and IVF. They are contradicting. Bama needs to decide it they want embryos to be considered children or not. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/29/ivf-protections-alabama-legislature-bill/ |
Have the clinics said they will provide IVF with this bill? |
No one is going to be willing to do IVF with rulings and laws that make embryos "people."
It is terrible. All Republican voting families who are barren DESERVE THIS. |
What happens to all the unfrozen embryos? Do the Alabama courts now go after the clinics for false imprisonment? |
If you're inside of a hospital and it's burning to the ground and everyone inside will die and you can either pick up a new born baby or a case with 1000 frozen embryos, which do you save? |
Someone really needs to test embryo personhood by claiming their embryos as dependents on taxes and counting in the next census.
Maybe then we can put an end to this absurdity. |
The idea of personhood for a zygote is so lacking in all reason. Sure we should treat human embryos with respect and have regulations and protocols on how to deal with IVF extra embryos etc. We should also treat human remains with respect. Doesn’t mean you give them the same rights and protections you give a living human being. Why is this so hard? |
Oh I agree with you. I posted that scenario because I think it makes the idea that an embryo is a baby and deserves the rights of a baby obviously false to most people. It's the trolley problem except one track has a living baby. It's pretty clear that embryos aren't babies. |
Is a snail darter embryo not a snail darter? |
This is why politicians need to say the F* out of medicine and healthcare treatment. |
International Journal of Sociology and Social Policy 1999, 19:3/4:22-36 (in press)
WHEN DO HUMAN BEINGS BEGIN? "SCIENTIFIC" MYTHS AND SCIENTIFIC FACTS Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D. (copyright February 1999) https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html |
This ruling is so dumb and Republicans are very foolish not to sponsor a bill to protect IVF, given that the majority of their own voters support it. However, I am not sure this will have a meaningful impact on the upcoming Senate races. The odds are stacked against democrats maintaining a majority in the senate for the next election cycle. WV is basically guaranteed to go Republican since Manchin is not running for reelection. Democrats have 7 competitive seats they need to hold. Republicans only have TX and FL to hold and they are unlikely to lose them. |
Is this supposed to be a point you’re trying to make? A link is not an argument. |