Woman charged with felony for having a stillbirth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"I had a miscarriage and yes I flushed"

https://cafemom.com/parenting/217370-flushing-toilet-after-miscarriage/277454-i_wanted_it_to_be_anything_besides_the_end_of_another_pregnancy_nbsp

Size and shape of a small water balloon. Not a formed baby who has gestated to 22 weeks. Huge difference. No comparison. And yet, even then, she wonders about the ethics and meaning of flushing it, when it really is still a "sac of cells," as so many like to call it.

If you weren't there to look in the toilet bowl you have no idea what it actually looked like. Period. No, you don't. Your experience is not this woman's.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"I had a miscarriage and yes I flushed"

https://cafemom.com/parenting/217370-flushing-toilet-after-miscarriage/277454-i_wanted_it_to_be_anything_besides_the_end_of_another_pregnancy_nbsp

Size and shape of a small water balloon. Not a formed baby who has gestated to 22 weeks. Huge difference. No comparison. And yet, even then, she wonders about the ethics and meaning of flushing it, when it really is still a "sac of cells," as so many like to call it.

You have no idea whether this woman’s fetus has “gestated to 22 weeks.” It was dead, not viable and could have stopped typical development way before she delivered it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

+1 Even the judge in this case punted on this question so it will be up to the grand jury. Ridiculous. Perhaps they can call in that Ohio legislator who tried to require doctors to transplant ectopic pregnancies into the uterus in the abortion ban that they passed as an expert witness.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

+1 Even the judge in this case punted on this question so it will be up to the grand jury. Ridiculous. Perhaps they can call in that Ohio legislator who tried to require doctors to transplant ectopic pregnancies into the uterus in the abortion ban that they passed as an expert witness.

WHAT?!?! Is that where we’re headed as a country? Please tell me there isn’t a woman alive on this planet that would think the bolded is remotely okay.

Women, it’s important that we stick together, use our Power and not allow stupid clueless men to make terrible decisions that directly impact our health and future. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

+1 Even the judge in this case punted on this question so it will be up to the grand jury. Ridiculous. Perhaps they can call in that Ohio legislator who tried to require doctors to transplant ectopic pregnancies into the uterus in the abortion ban that they passed as an expert witness.

WHAT?!?! Is that where we’re headed as a country? Please tell me there isn’t a woman alive on this planet that would think the bolded is remotely okay.

Women, it’s important that we stick together, use our Power and not allow stupid clueless men to make terrible decisions that directly impact our health and future. Period.

That’s where we ARE. Men with zero medical experience or expertise and minimal background—if any — in basic biology are trying to legislate women’s healthcare based on their very personal beliefs. The fun part is that while people in DC have no voting representation in Congress, our very lives are governed by legislators from other states — who believe all kinds of things that guide their votes.

Based on the little that I know, the judge was right —in an ethical sense — to punt. I hope the grand jury has access to genuine expert witnesses, and will rely on their testimonies and not just on their own beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t “don’t flush a corpse” common knowledge? I mean it’s not a goldfish it’s a human.

My “common knowledge “ doesn’t cover miscarriages or stillbirths outside of a hospital setting.
Since yours apparently does, please describe, in as detailed a way as you can manage, what exactly “common knowledge “ would have someone do in this situation.

I would probably call 911 and ask for help, and follow their instructions. But I get that after going through something traumatic and being turned away from from the hospital, the poor woman was in shock, and didn’t know what to do.

Really, common sense doesn’t tell you not to add a dead baby to the public water supply? It was apparently large enough that she tried plunging it and it didn’t go down so we’re not talking about just a large glob of cells…

Everyone flushes their miscarriage if it happens at home.

Do you think there is a clear toilet bowl so you can see what came out? You’re talking about a bowl of blood with something under it invisible to the eye.

Why didn’t a doctor extract the non viable fetus to avoid a catastrophic episode in this persons life like a normal stillborn/miscarriage?

Um, a 22-week fetus is a baby. It looks exactly like a baby. I held my 20-week old babies in my arms for an hour while they lived and breathed. You people who think they are a "glob of cells" are complete idiots.

I miscarried a 14 week fetus into a toilet and can tell you that fishing those remnants out of the water to put into a bag and bring to the doctor was about the most traumatizing thing I’ve ever experienced.

Sounds like you experienced your loss in a clean hospital setting where you gave birth in a bed and someone cleaned off your babies before putting them into your arms.

I’m sorry for your loss and experience and I’m sorry for this other woman’s loss and experience.

Please understand that your experience is not universal.

Same here, except I flushed. I had no idea what I was supposed to do, but carrying that fetus in my arms would not have helped me (I realize everyone is different). This poor poor woman. Just another reason Ohio is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

+1 Even the judge in this case punted on this question so it will be up to the grand jury. Ridiculous. Perhaps they can call in that Ohio legislator who tried to require doctors to transplant ectopic pregnancies into the uterus in the abortion ban that they passed as an expert witness.

WHAT?!?! Is that where we’re headed as a country? Please tell me there isn’t a woman alive on this planet that would think the bolded is remotely okay.

Women, it’s important that we stick together, use our Power and not allow stupid clueless men to make terrible decisions that directly impact our health and future. Period.

That’s where we already are as a country. The stupid reimplantation amendment didn’t pass, but there’s stuff that’s almost that stupid in all of these trigger bans that automatically went into effect in the wake of Roe falling.

That’s why most of the posters here who have been paying attention are guessing that she was sent home twice because her nonviable fetus still had a heartbeat and if that was the case she wouldn’t be a candidate for a therapeutic abortion. There are dozens of cases like this that have made the news throughout the ban states this past year. For that, the other posters here who haven’t been paying attention at all tattled to Jeff on us.

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

+1 Even the judge in this case punted on this question so it will be up to the grand jury. Ridiculous. Perhaps they can call in that Ohio legislator who tried to require doctors to transplant ectopic pregnancies into the uterus in the abortion ban that they passed as an expert witness.

WHAT?!?! Is that where we’re headed as a country? Please tell me there isn’t a woman alive on this planet that would think the bolded is remotely okay.

Women, it’s important that we stick together, use our Power and not allow stupid clueless men to make terrible decisions that directly impact our health and future. Period.

Forgot the link for the reimplantation amendment.
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/new-ohio-bill-falsely-suggests-that-reimplantation-of-ectopic-pregnancy-is-possible/

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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.

Still stupid. She had a miscarriage. The "baby" was never alive. She was probably not feeling great, confused, panicked, etc. There was likely blood, she didn't know what to do. Hell, maybe it was too slippery to pick up. Maybe she felt faint. Why the hell should someone be subjected to criminal prosecution for this?

Because most of the people in this world hate women.

Because she is not subject to criminal prosecution for that. Not alive baby is a corpse, and you cannot just disasamble any dead body the way you feel like (to chop it in the pieces and put it in the freezer or to flush it in the toilet). That what she is charged with.

So you think this should be prosecuted as a felony?

If that state has this law, then yes, it should be prosecuted. We cannot just disregard the law. If there will be evidence that she is incompetent to stand a trial or that she was in such condition that she was not understanding what she is doing, then the judge or jury should find her not guilty. We cannot just let all criminals walk around just because we disagree with the law. If we want to follow the rule of law, then we have to follow the legal process.

At what point does the product of a miscarriage become a human corpse, legally speaking? Certainly you're not saying all miscarriages must be handled as though it's a dead body?

+1 Even the judge in this case punted on this question so it will be up to the grand jury. Ridiculous. Perhaps they can call in that Ohio legislator who tried to require doctors to transplant ectopic pregnancies into the uterus in the abortion ban that they passed as an expert witness.

WHAT?!?! Is that where we’re headed as a country? Please tell me there isn’t a woman alive on this planet that would think the bolded is remotely okay.

Women, it’s important that we stick together, use our Power and not allow stupid clueless men to make terrible decisions that directly impact our health and future. Period.

That’s where we already are as a country. The stupid reimplantation amendment didn’t pass, but there’s stuff that’s almost that stupid in all of these trigger bans that automatically went into effect in the wake of Roe falling.

That’s why most of the posters here who have been paying attention are guessing that she was sent home twice because her nonviable fetus still had a heartbeat and if that was the case she wouldn’t be a candidate for a therapeutic abortion. There are dozens of cases like this that have made the news throughout the ban states this past year. For that, the other posters here who haven’t been paying attention at all tattled to Jeff on us.

That is correct. The fundie forced-birthers haaaaate media attention to the horrible cases they cause. Total denial.

[Anonymous]

I have a PhD, am a biomedical researcher, and am highly accomplished. I work on advances that may now help women (and men) in diagnosing and treating a range of medical conditions. I have tenure at an elite institution where I do this work.

20 years ago I had a stillbirth when i was traveling for work. I was traveling and in another country for work, giving a lecture about my research. This terrible process ended in a restroom at a public place. I was in a country that has been historically repulsed by abortion, and has been portrayed by the press as being cruel to women. When this happened I could not understand what was happening. I locked myself in the restroom. I was bleeding, and bleeding. I only wanted to get home to my family,and I though that if I could just get throug this I would get home to my family. I passed out. I can read this story and see how one would easily characterize my behavior as trying to "just get on with my day." Only difference between me and the woman facing felony charges is that I lost *a lot* of blood, and despite my desires, I ended up unconscious as opposed to "going about my normal day."

I next remember being in an ambulance with paramedics. Who knows what I had left behind - it could easily have been the same things this woman left beind. Even in this most conservative of countries, where I was, I was treated humanely. A fetus was lost, yes. I was given surgery that prevented sepsis under the conditions, and able to recover. No one, in this most religious of countries, talked of a crime. I got to fly home. I now have two wonderful children, who were born healthy after those terrible days. The health system in that country treated me for free. They probably "unclogged" a toilet. I will never know, for no one ever asked.

Thus, I could easily have been this woman, and perhaps, though I probably do not share my skin color with her, who would think that was relevant? In the moment, a purely primal, reptilian instinct overtook me, involving fear and trying to keep myself, and my family, intact. Perhaps the woman now charged is something else entirely, and really just wanted to drown out drugs, evil, whatever you are thinking. But until you have evidence of this, I also hope you will consider a little of what it is like to be in these shoes. And I will use the proceeds from the tens of patents I have been lucky enough to file and license in my career as a biomedical researcher to help women miserable enough to have to face these moments. If this woman has a gofundme page, or any other way to support the scared women who modern laws make scofflaws and much, much worse, I will be there. I am optimistic I am not alone in such a mission, though heartbroken my option is to write a check as a means of countering the scorn of our society in 2023 AD, vs doing nothing as people slander a women in terror and fear. I can pile the most horrible motives cast on this thread on a woman and still feel a need to support someone, and care of them in their darkest hour. God bless those of you lucky enough to be able to pass simplistic judgement on her without knowing any possible alternative, who do not know anything about what it is like to be "overcome with emotion" the article the OP mentions quotes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a PhD, am a biomedical researcher, and am highly accomplished. I work on advances that may now help women (and men) in diagnosing and treating a range of medical conditions. I have tenure at an elite institution where I do this work.

20 years ago I had a stillbirth when i was traveling for work. I was traveling and in another country for work, giving a lecture about my research. This terrible process ended in a restroom at a public place. I was in a country that has been historically repulsed by abortion, and has been portrayed by the press as being cruel to women. When this happened I could not understand what was happening. I locked myself in the restroom. I was bleeding, and bleeding. I only wanted to get home to my family,and I though that if I could just get throug this I would get home to my family. I passed out. I can read this story and see how one would easily characterize my behavior as trying to "just get on with my day." Only difference between me and the woman facing felony charges is that I lost *a lot* of blood, and despite my desires, I ended up unconscious as opposed to "going about my normal day."

I next remember being in an ambulance with paramedics. Who knows what I had left behind - it could easily have been the same things this woman left beind. Even in this most conservative of countries, where I was, I was treated humanely. A fetus was lost, yes. I was given surgery that prevented sepsis under the conditions, and able to recover. No one, in this most religious of countries, talked of a crime. I got to fly home. I now have two wonderful children, who were born healthy after those terrible days. The health system in that country treated me for free. They probably "unclogged" a toilet. I will never know, for no one ever asked.

Thus, I could easily have been this woman, and perhaps, though I probably do not share my skin color with her, who would think that was relevant? In the moment, a purely primal, reptilian instinct overtook me, involving fear and trying to keep myself, and my family, intact. Perhaps the woman now charged is something else entirely, and really just wanted to drown out drugs, evil, whatever you are thinking. But until you have evidence of this, I also hope you will consider a little of what it is like to be in these shoes. And I will use the proceeds from the tens of patents I have been lucky enough to file and license in my career as a biomedical researcher to help women miserable enough to have to face these moments. If this woman has a gofundme page, or any other way to support the scared women who modern laws make scofflaws and much, much worse, I will be there. I am optimistic I am not alone in such a mission, though heartbroken my option is to write a check as a means of countering the scorn of our society in 2023 AD, vs doing nothing as people slander a women in terror and fear. I can pile the most horrible motives cast on this thread on a woman and still feel a need to support someone, and care of them in their darkest hour. God bless those of you lucky enough to be able to pass simplistic judgement on her without knowing any possible alternative, who do not know anything about what it is like to be "overcome with emotion" the article the OP mentions quotes.

Wow thank you for sharing this powerful story. So very sorry for your loss and your traumatic experience. Thank you for leaning into it to do something good for others. Big hugs.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a PhD, am a biomedical researcher, and am highly accomplished. I work on advances that may now help women (and men) in diagnosing and treating a range of medical conditions. I have tenure at an elite institution where I do this work.

20 years ago I had a stillbirth when i was traveling for work. I was traveling and in another country for work, giving a lecture about my research. This terrible process ended in a restroom at a public place. I was in a country that has been historically repulsed by abortion, and has been portrayed by the press as being cruel to women. When this happened I could not understand what was happening. I locked myself in the restroom. I was bleeding, and bleeding. I only wanted to get home to my family,and I though that if I could just get throug this I would get home to my family. I passed out. I can read this story and see how one would easily characterize my behavior as trying to "just get on with my day." Only difference between me and the woman facing felony charges is that I lost *a lot* of blood, and despite my desires, I ended up unconscious as opposed to "going about my normal day."

I next remember being in an ambulance with paramedics. Who knows what I had left behind - it could easily have been the same things this woman left beind. Even in this most conservative of countries, where I was, I was treated humanely. A fetus was lost, yes. I was given surgery that prevented sepsis under the conditions, and able to recover. No one, in this most religious of countries, talked of a crime. I got to fly home. I now have two wonderful children, who were born healthy after those terrible days. The health system in that country treated me for free. They probably "unclogged" a toilet. I will never know, for no one ever asked.

Thus, I could easily have been this woman, and perhaps, though I probably do not share my skin color with her, who would think that was relevant? In the moment, a purely primal, reptilian instinct overtook me, involving fear and trying to keep myself, and my family, intact. Perhaps the woman now charged is something else entirely, and really just wanted to drown out drugs, evil, whatever you are thinking. But until you have evidence of this, I also hope you will consider a little of what it is like to be in these shoes. And I will use the proceeds from the tens of patents I have been lucky enough to file and license in my career as a biomedical researcher to help women miserable enough to have to face these moments. If this woman has a gofundme page, or any other way to support the scared women who modern laws make scofflaws and much, much worse, I will be there. I am optimistic I am not alone in such a mission, though heartbroken my option is to write a check as a means of countering the scorn of our society in 2023 AD, vs doing nothing as people slander a women in terror and fear. I can pile the most horrible motives cast on this thread on a woman and still feel a need to support someone, and care of them in their darkest hour. God bless those of you lucky enough to be able to pass simplistic judgement on her without knowing any possible alternative, who do not know anything about what it is like to be "overcome with emotion" the article the OP mentions quotes.

Count me in. If anyone finds the gofundme please share. Even if you start a new thread with the info. I want her to know that she has love and support not disgust and judgment.

I am a physician. My pregnancy losses were DEVASTATING.
I flushed. Both times. Actually was on call during my second. I know more about this topic than I would like on a personal and professional level.

Charging her in this fashion with a felony is inhumane. Indecent. Infuriating.

We must take action.

[Anonymous]

Women with high risk pregnancies should leave the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women with high risk pregnancies should leave the state.

Better hope you don't get stopped on suspicion of travel for abortion.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/west-texas-county-bans-travel-roads-seeking-abortion-104256476#:~:text=LUBBOCK%2C%20Texas%20%2D%2D%20A%20Texas,Wade.