Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?

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Anonymous wrote:to the main question - simply because UVA, VT , WM cant cant all the qualified students and people here have the $$$ to go to OOS schools.

Many students that "just miss" getting into UVA, VT, WM are offered excellent scholarships at other states' flagships-to the point where it's the same or an even lower price.
My kid is a good student but I don't think he has a chance at UVA or VT (engineering.) But with the automatic merit scholarship at Alabama, he'll only be paying about $2k/semester-far cheaper than what he'd have to pay at UVA or VT even if he could get in.

Yea, exactly. I said this earlier in fact but I’m a so-called UVA poster so I was dismissed out of hand.

The joke used to be that JMU stood for Just Missed UVA. That’s not true of JMU or any other school in VA outside of W&M and maybe VT. The gap has widened. So you have very good students from VA that can’t / don’t get into those schools but have very good stats and are getting merit offers from OOS flagships. They end up paying less to leave the state and going to better (or at least better known) OOS schools.

So the choice is made for them given UVA’s admission standards, but it’s not a bad choice to have made.

I am smiling as I write this because I have “Morning Joe“ on the TV in the background and they’re talking about how unfair the process is for rich kids to get into best schools. The reporter just said “schools like the Ivy League and elite publics like Virginia and Michigan.” In that order lol. No mention of any of the other out-of-state flagships being discussed in this thread lol.

Re: the bolded, that silly "joke" isn't true for VT, mainly because students often choose VT over UVA to begin with. I know that's hard for you to admit, but it's ok. The rest of us know it to be true.

According to parchment 24 percent of students admitted to both UVA and Tech chose Tech. I guess that’s “often.”

Just for giggles, we should look at %s for kids who choose for STEM. As as engineer, I can tell you the %s are much different.

[Anonymous]

Why did this post devolve into a pissing match by UVA boosters against other families/kids that want to attend universities in other parts of the country? The original question was "Why are OOS Flagships so popular?" My son wanted to attend a big state school OOS. He wanted a place with big sports and school spirit. He also wanted a place where he could ski, do whitewater rafting and hike in the mountains. Even tough he was admitted to UVA, he declined and decided on Colorado.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA boosters lack the self awareness that a good education would have provided.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:Merit aid! Both my kids got around $15000/year from their OOS schools.

What schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did this post devolve into a pissing match by UVA boosters against other families/kids that want to attend universities in other parts of the country? The original question was "Why are OOS Flagships so popular?" My son wanted to attend a big state school OOS. He wanted a place with big sports and school spirit. He also wanted a place where he could ski, do whitewater rafting and hike in the mountains. Even tough he was admitted to UVA, he declined and decided on Colorado.

That is exactly where I can see my kid attending - for those same reasons.

[Anonymous]

UVA granny, are you also brunch granny?

[Anonymous]

This thread is beyond tiresome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:to the main question - simply because UVA, VT , WM cant cant all the qualified students and people here have the $$$ to go to OOS schools.

Many students that "just miss" getting into UVA, VT, WM are offered excellent scholarships at other states' flagships-to the point where it's the same or an even lower price.
My kid is a good student but I don't think he has a chance at UVA or VT (engineering.) But with the automatic merit scholarship at Alabama, he'll only be paying about $2k/semester-far cheaper than what he'd have to pay at UVA or VT even if he could get in.

Yea, exactly. I said this earlier in fact but I’m a so-called UVA poster so I was dismissed out of hand.

The joke used to be that JMU stood for Just Missed UVA. That’s not true of JMU or any other school in VA outside of W&M and maybe VT. The gap has widened. So you have very good students from VA that can’t / don’t get into those schools but have very good stats and are getting merit offers from OOS flagships. They end up paying less to leave the state and going to better (or at least better known) OOS schools.

So the choice is made for them given UVA’s admission standards, but it’s not a bad choice to have made.

I am smiling as I write this because I have “Morning Joe“ on the TV in the background and they’re talking about how unfair the process is for rich kids to get into best schools. The reporter just said “schools like the Ivy League and elite publics like Virginia and Michigan.” In that order lol. No mention of any of the other out-of-state flagships being discussed in this thread lol.

Re: the bolded, that silly "joke" isn't true for VT, mainly because students often choose VT over UVA to begin with. I know that's hard for you to admit, but it's ok. The rest of us know it to be true.

According to parchment 24 percent of students admitted to both UVA and Tech chose Tech. I guess that’s “often.”

According to parchment, if the choice is UVA vs Michigan, 57% choose Michigan. 54% choose UCLA. 60% choose Berkeley. 69% choose USC. Looks like UVA isn't the top choice for many, many people.
DP

Again, we are talking about in-state comparisons. Apples and oranges. We’ve been over this many times. Obviously you weren’t smart enough for UVA.

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“Even tough he was admitted to UVA, he declined and decided on Colorado.“

Paramedics all over NOVA: hope you are able to handle the spike in heart attacks in the last 15 minutes. Godspeed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:to the main question - simply because UVA, VT , WM cant cant all the qualified students and people here have the $$$ to go to OOS schools.

Many students that "just miss" getting into UVA, VT, WM are offered excellent scholarships at other states' flagships-to the point where it's the same or an even lower price.
My kid is a good student but I don't think he has a chance at UVA or VT (engineering.) But with the automatic merit scholarship at Alabama, he'll only be paying about $2k/semester-far cheaper than what he'd have to pay at UVA or VT even if he could get in.

Yea, exactly. I said this earlier in fact but I’m a so-called UVA poster so I was dismissed out of hand.

The joke used to be that JMU stood for Just Missed UVA. That’s not true of JMU or any other school in VA outside of W&M and maybe VT. The gap has widened. So you have very good students from VA that can’t / don’t get into those schools but have very good stats and are getting merit offers from OOS flagships. They end up paying less to leave the state and going to better (or at least better known) OOS schools.

So the choice is made for them given UVA’s admission standards, but it’s not a bad choice to have made.

I am smiling as I write this because I have “Morning Joe“ on the TV in the background and they’re talking about how unfair the process is for rich kids to get into best schools. The reporter just said “schools like the Ivy League and elite publics like Virginia and Michigan.” In that order lol. No mention of any of the other out-of-state flagships being discussed in this thread lol.

Re: the bolded, that silly "joke" isn't true for VT, mainly because students often choose VT over UVA to begin with. I know that's hard for you to admit, but it's ok. The rest of us know it to be true.

According to parchment 24 percent of students admitted to both UVA and Tech chose Tech. I guess that’s “often.”

Just for giggles, we should look at %s for kids who choose for STEM. As as engineer, I can tell you the %s are much different.

The 24 percent is for all majors. If you do engineering specifically you’d probably see that nobody goes to Tech over UVA for any other reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:to the main question - simply because UVA, VT , WM cant cant all the qualified students and people here have the $$$ to go to OOS schools.

Many students that "just miss" getting into UVA, VT, WM are offered excellent scholarships at other states' flagships-to the point where it's the same or an even lower price.
My kid is a good student but I don't think he has a chance at UVA or VT (engineering.) But with the automatic merit scholarship at Alabama, he'll only be paying about $2k/semester-far cheaper than what he'd have to pay at UVA or VT even if he could get in.

Yea, exactly. I said this earlier in fact but I’m a so-called UVA poster so I was dismissed out of hand.

The joke used to be that JMU stood for Just Missed UVA. That’s not true of JMU or any other school in VA outside of W&M and maybe VT. The gap has widened. So you have very good students from VA that can’t / don’t get into those schools but have very good stats and are getting merit offers from OOS flagships. They end up paying less to leave the state and going to better (or at least better known) OOS schools.

So the choice is made for them given UVA’s admission standards, but it’s not a bad choice to have made.

I am smiling as I write this because I have “Morning Joe“ on the TV in the background and they’re talking about how unfair the process is for rich kids to get into best schools. The reporter just said “schools like the Ivy League and elite publics like Virginia and Michigan.” In that order lol. No mention of any of the other out-of-state flagships being discussed in this thread lol.

Re: the bolded, that silly "joke" isn't true for VT, mainly because students often choose VT over UVA to begin with. I know that's hard for you to admit, but it's ok. The rest of us know it to be true.

According to parchment 24 percent of students admitted to both UVA and Tech chose Tech. I guess that’s “often.”

Just for giggles, we should look at %s for kids who choose for STEM. As as engineer, I can tell you the %s are much different.

The 24 percent is for all majors. If you do engineering specifically you’d probably see that nobody goes to Tech over UVA for any other reason.

DP. This is hilarious. I know plenty of people, including two of my own kids, who chose VT over UVA for the humanities and business, respectively. Not STEM or engineering. You seem to be living in a silly little bubble of cluelessness.

[Anonymous]

UVA boosters are clowns that make UVA look like a joke, even though it is probably a decent school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why did this post devolve into a pissing match by UVA boosters against other families/kids that want to attend universities in other parts of the country? The original question was "Why are OOS Flagships so popular?" My son wanted to attend a big state school OOS. He wanted a place with big sports and school spirit. He also wanted a place where he could ski, do whitewater rafting and hike in the mountains. Even tough he was admitted to UVA, he declined and decided on Colorado.

Good for him. He’s one of only 65 Virginia students in his class who did that. And one of only a handful who turned down UVA for it. No doubt about that.

One of my kid’s best friends from NOVA went to Boulder. Such a nice kid and doing really well. Not much of a student in high school though.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did this post devolve into a pissing match by UVA boosters against other families/kids that want to attend universities in other parts of the country? The original question was "Why are OOS Flagships so popular?" My son wanted to attend a big state school OOS. He wanted a place with big sports and school spirit. He also wanted a place where he could ski, do whitewater rafting and hike in the mountains. Even tough he was admitted to UVA, he declined and decided on Colorado.

Good for him. He’s one of only 65 Virginia students in his class who did that. And one of only a handful who turned down UVA for it. No doubt about that.

One of my kid’s best friends from NOVA went to Boulder. Such a nice kid and doing really well. Not much of a student in high school though.

Cite?

[Anonymous]

All of my kid’s friends got into UVA but went elsewhere. Don’t take it personally, it has nothing to do with your own decisions.