FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The rumor of this move doesn’t make sense to me, especially since capacity is stable at Fairfax and Oakton, and Centreville would likely pick up Willow Springs, freeing up space at Fairfax to take Fairfax Villa off over capacity Woodson’s hands.

Woodson is overcrowded as hell. They definitely need to pick up relief from somewhere. Why would they take from Oakton when Woodson is the overcrowded one? Is that why the Mantua parents are so active in all this? (sorry, 400 pages is too much to keep up on). They don't want to be the ones moved from Woodson to Fairfax HS. Mantua / Fairfax Villa cage match - GO!

The crowding at Woodson happened because in 2011, part of Annandale (Wakefield Forest) got moved there. Then, shortly thereafter, Fairfax City demanded that FCPS pull some county kids out of Fairfax HS. The obvious location at the time was to send them to Woodson, but they really hadn't expected Fairfax City to do this when the kids were moved from Annandale. Eventually it overcrowded Woodson.

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So much for the fake concerns of one of Mantua's most vocal parents about equity and efficiency. Just one more self-interested hypocrite jockeying for her own neighborhood.

She was defending FCPS on Nextdoor last week when someone complained about the scores. She mentioned closing the gap. It was pointed out that it was being closed from the top.

I then looked up Woodson and Falls Church. The demographics are quite different. I don't know how she can speak to the "achievement gap."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The crowding at Woodson happened because in 2011, part of Annandale (Wakefield Forest) got moved there. Then, shortly thereafter, Fairfax City demanded that FCPS pull some county kids out of Fairfax HS. The obvious location at the time was to send them to Woodson, but they really hadn't expected Fairfax City to do this when the kids were moved from Annandale. Eventually it overcrowded Woodson.

Then it makes even less sense that the "leaked maps" poster proposed moving county kids from Waples Mill into the Fairfax HS pyramid.

[Anonymous]

I’m a parent of school aged kids and support boundary changes. Because I have looked at a map and seen all the ridiculous lines that create inefficiencies and waste money.

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You are obviously not concerned at all so why even comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a parent of school aged kids and support boundary changes. Because I have looked at a map and seen all the ridiculous lines that create inefficiencies and waste money.

I agree with you, but the process thus far has done little to show this is a problem they’re interested in solving.

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Yeah no one is moving in to Woodson without significant numbers moving out first. FCPS’s own projections show only Woodson and WSHS significantly over capacity in the 5 year projections (which obviously are sus but that’s what they’re going by). Isn’t Mantua ES basically right across the street from Woodson HS though? I can’t see that change happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a parent of school aged kids and support boundary changes. Because I have looked at a map and seen all the ridiculous lines that create inefficiencies and waste money.

When you looked at the map, did you notice the distance between Langley and McLean? Madison and Oakton? Lewis and Edison? Fairfax and Woodson? Carson and Franklin? etc.

We would all like schools with neat, compact, and logical boundaries. When two schools are very close together then lines have to go in different and longer directions. Add to that certain restrictions--Langley is practically on the Arlington border. All Fairfax City kids are required to go to Fairfax High.

Want to talk about inefficiencies? IB is far more expensive than AP. It is also less preferred by most Fairfax county parents. So, we are going to shift kids from IB to AP-and vice versa--as well as shifting them out of their current communities.

Teachers will have to be shifted to staff schools. And, they may not be shifted with the kids because of the programs at different high schools. Some will be shifted to schools that are not as convenient, and some may be happy with the shift. But, either way, it is a new and learning experience. There will need to be adjustments in counselors and programs. None of this is efficient. These issues are not being considered.

All our SB is concerned about is demographics. Anyone who says otherwise is not being honest.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly kids can shift to Westfield if they move the northern boundary to Herndon. They could also move some to Fairfax, especially if they move others out of Fairfax to Woodson or Robinson.

Westfield already has 2800 students with hundreds of new townhouses being built in its boundary. No room for CHS kids. They will
need to go to an expanded CVHS or the open seats at Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Get rid of IB and put AP at every school or these boundary changes are pointless

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly kids can shift to Westfield if they move the northern boundary to Herndon. They could also move some to Fairfax, especially if they move others out of Fairfax to Woodson or Robinson.

Westfield already has 2800 students with hundreds of new townhouses being built in its boundary. No room for CHS kids. They will
need to go to an expanded CVHS or the open seats at Herndon.

Coates will go first to Herndon. It borders Herndon boundary. And, I'm not sure there are hundreds of townshouses, but that is not a yield of hundreds of high school students.

Westfield was built out to accommodate 3000 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a parent of school aged kids and support boundary changes. Because I have looked at a map and seen all the ridiculous lines that create inefficiencies and waste money.

I see this statement occasionally, but the reality is that some of the boundaries have to be odd given where schools are located. They should focus on cleaning up ES boundaries and generally leave the MS/HS alone. Let them demonstrate they can handle a lower-risk project (the ES boundaries) before they run the risk of making a mess at the MS/HS level.

If they really gave a shit about wasting money, they wouldn't be moving ahead with the $86 million boondoggle at Dunn Loring. Dunn Loring ES is a complete waste of money, and I'd wager any transportation savings they realize from boundaries changes will be more than eaten up by Karl Frisch's ridiculous vanity project.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no one is moving in to Woodson without significant numbers moving out first. FCPS’s own projections show only Woodson and WSHS significantly over capacity in the 5 year projections (which obviously are sus but that’s what they’re going by). Isn’t Mantua ES basically right across the street from Woodson HS though? I can’t see that change happening.

The 5 year projections include modulars. Without modulars, McLean is still at 118%, Marshall at 109%, Chantilly at 112%, and Robinson at 105%. Also, Annandale also goes from 89% to 102% when you take the modular away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no one is moving in to Woodson without significant numbers moving out first. FCPS’s own projections show only Woodson and WSHS significantly over capacity in the 5 year projections (which obviously are sus but that’s what they’re going by). Isn’t Mantua ES basically right across the street from Woodson HS though? I can’t see that change happening.

You could be within four blocks of Oakton HS and zoned for Madison HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no one is moving in to Woodson without significant numbers moving out first. FCPS’s own projections show only Woodson and WSHS significantly over capacity in the 5 year projections (which obviously are sus but that’s what they’re going by). Isn’t Mantua ES basically right across the street from Woodson HS though? I can’t see that change happening.

The 5 year projections include modulars. Without modulars, McLean is still at 118%, Marshall at 109%, Chantilly at 112%, and Robinson at 105%. Also, Annandale also goes from 89% to 102% when you take the modular away.

Chantilly has had modular for years. It has been overcrowded for years, and yet no one wants to move out. If you look at the membership, the freshman class is much lower in number and it is likely the population may go down. The boundaries are compact and there is no logical shift that does not involve greater distance for any of the students.