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Yeah because 1) it’s not their property values or ability to sell that’s potentially being affected and 2) kids don’t necessarily have a full grasp on how bad it would be, academically and in terms of their college apps, to move high schools DURING HIGH SCHOOL. If the SB doesn’t figure out the whole AP vs. IB thing, potentially moving from a school with AP classes to one that doesn’t have them. If a kid was on the most advanced math track, moving to a school that could potentially not accommodate that if there has been no demand in the past for the highest AP math classes. No it’s not the same to take those classes at NVCC - as everyone knows, the quality of teaching is generally better in high school when you’re taught by qualified teachers vs. professors whose specialty is research. And, those same kids also got screwed at some point in elementary school by a year and a half’s worth of closures due to COVID. I think allowing grandfathering for both juniors and seniors would mitigate a lot of parental stress about this, and I would like to see 6th graders grandfathered as well so they can finish out ES with their class. If a 9th or 10th grader had to move HS, they would have more than half of HS at the new school and that’s not as bad. |
Maybe, if they don’t understand as much about this then us adults do. My son is nervous and sad. Rising 8th grader who has dreamed of going to the same high as his older siblings. He’s not happy. No one seems to care. And don’t tell me house values don’t matter. It is our largest investment and of course do not want a loss. |
Exactly. This is the situation we are in as well. There is no way I can "advocate for change" and have it possibly make a difference for my rising junior. Meren even expressed this concern and favored limited grandfathering for this reason. There will most likely be a lag in Lewis' ability to offer AP and DE classes. Not all teachers can teach those courses. For AP, you need to be AP certified for that specific course and for DE you need to have the required graduate credits in that content area to teach it, typically 18 credits. When my youngest is in 9th grade, there is a good chance that the course offerings would have improved, and they will likely not experience the loss of opportunities in terms of sports and leadership positions my junior would. Heck, I'm not even arguing against boundary changes. I'm just advocating to do them in way that makes sense geographically and at a bare minimum to try mitigate the harm to kids in the "move zone" at critical times in their academic career. There is a whole lot of space between digging in your heals against any boundary changes and saying "whatever, move 'em all, they'll be fine." I see the need for some changes but just want to see it done in a way that minimizes harm. Rising juniors are the ones who arguably would be harmed the most in a forced move. Also, no this is not the same as a family choosing to move. Families in the demographic that is going to likely get moved would research the area and prioritize schools in terms of certain measures of quality, to include advanced course offerings, and if possible time those moves in a way that is least disruptive to their kids. Don't bring up military kids. I've worked in DODEA schools, and while many thrive and excel, and most are okay, there is a subset that ARE NOT okay and suffer mental health challenges unlike any I've seen in other schools. Luckily, those schools have much more robust mental health services available. Ask any military family, and they will say the moves get harder the older the kids get. Many time their retirements to avoid moving during high school. A forced move like this is nothing like "oh kids moved all the time, they'll be fine." While I do not disagree with the need to change boundaries, I do disagree with doing it in a way that does not take into consideration the needs of the kids being moved. That it was what I will advocate for in addition to IMMEDIATE expansions of course offerings in the currently under enrolled schools. I can get behind improving schools and using resources more wisely. I can't get behind a numbers game intended to mask problems without regard for the impact on the higher achieving kids you hope will improve the school. For the poster who keeps saying "what will you do to improve your new school," what have YOU done to improve your school beyond possibly advocating to move other kids to your school in hopes that it improves the situation? |
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The Langley parents tried to throw their money and weight around as usual and derail the adoption of the Policy 8130 amendments.
They failed. Now it’s time to step back, let FCPS staff work on the proposed implementation plan, and offer appropriate feedback once it is available for public review and comment. |
What college said they prefer one high school over another? Show us where colleges say they don’t admit kids that move. Post your source. |
You can claim they matter, but that goes both ways then. Why should FCPS play favorites with protecting some pyramid values while "allowing" others to go down the drain? By your logic FCPS should make decisions that maintain and even improve values in undesirable pyramids. |
It's common sense to anyone who knows anything about college admissions. Strength of schedule matters. We're not talking about just getting into college period, we're taking about the potential options of more advance students being limited due to lack of access to AP and DE courses. Most of us here are not advocating against the boundary changes. We are arguing to grandfather juniors because that is a critical year in terms of college admissions. You are arguing for the other extreme end of the spectrum from those who say "no boundary changes, period." What is best for the county is a moderate position that takes into account the needs of all students, including those being moved. |
Show us your source. Show us a college that says they won’t admit a top kid from a school with less AP. |
If this not the case, why are you so eager to have high performing kids moved to underenrolled schools? If access to AP and DE courses do not matter, why do you need access to them increased at your school via an influx of higher performing kids? If they do matter to you, why should that not also matter to me? Explain your reasoning to me. |
Speaking as a parent of several Langley 🎓, Langley parents failing to stop this policy is the best result for them, even is they don’t know it yet. Langley is still good comparatively but it’s not what it was even 8 years ago. Opting out of government school will do good things for their children in the long run. |
Oh, and here you go. https://www.nacacnet.org/factors-in-the-admission-decision/ |
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NP not really following this but have they actually said they would move kids in the middle of their schooling (ie in 8th or after 9th) or is this just conjecture?
I thought boundary changes are typically applied to new incoming classes while students already in the school are able to complete their time at that particular school |
They refused to commit to any specific grandfathering beyond the last year at any level, citing the need for flexibility, which in my mind means they will at least consider moving rising juniors. This is concerning for me since they still want that option on the table. |
Where does says kids from a school with less AP don’t get in? Even a lower FCPS school has more AP than most districts in VA. You think kids outside FCPS don’t go to college? |
*Where does this say |