RM Cluster Overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how elected officials are only talking about increasing the housing and thresholds in the RM cluster and not in areas that feed into Wootton and Rockville HS. Surely increased development there would help all of Rockville?

Montgomery County did it in Bethesda and there was no outcry there.

Because Bethesda Chevy Chase HS has 282 empty seats right now. RM is already over crowded.

Also money was added in CIP for projects at Bethesda Elementary, Somerset Elementary.

[Anonymous]

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It's convenient that Twinbrook is the school that's somehow best to move, isn't it? But I think that you should show some more imagination and propose that RP be moved to Wootton. That will free up space at RM.

Wootton doesn't have space and there is less room to play around on that side of boundary. We have lots of HS on TB side. Also, this whole issue to raise RM limit is coming due to condos in TB. TB not being part of RM will allow TB to develop at faster rate.

[b]What does that mean? If not to Wootton, Ritchie Park could be moved to Gaithersburg HS.

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Yes, by all means let’s not discuss overcrowding Wootton. Keep the overcrowding issues at RM only. The Wootton cluster should not have to take in any additional development or students (sarcasm).

The proposed new building is not in the Ritchie Park boundary, so why think about moving RP to Gaithersburg or Wootton? The building is in Twinbrook and many in the Twinbrook community want it, so it makes more sense to make adjustments there. There is also already approved development in the Rustin boundaries - the new Tower Oaks development.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny how elected officials are only talking about increasing the housing and thresholds in the RM cluster and not in areas that feed into Wootton and Rockville HS. Surely increased development there would help all of Rockville?

The idea is to increase density near the red line which really only affects RM

No to mention, downtown Rockville is where more people want to live. It’s where the demand is. People want to live near transi. I understand some people don’t care about that and like living further away from things (and don’t car for walkability) but by and large, growth is along transit.

https://ggwash.org/view/69029/montgomery-county-says-no-new-homes-in-silver-spring-because-the-schools-ar

No. Perceived quality of the schools is the biggest driver of where people want to live. It’s why houses in the Wootton cluster are so much more expensive than comparable homes in the Richard Montgomery or Rockville clusters. For that reason, it seems logical to put more housing in Wootton cluster.

If Wooton’s district were that popular it would already be under moritorium. Say what you want about prices but population growth proves you wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny how elected officials are only talking about increasing the housing and thresholds in the RM cluster and not in areas that feed into Wootton and Rockville HS. Surely increased development there would help all of Rockville?

The idea is to increase density near the red line which really only affects RM

No to mention, downtown Rockville is where more people want to live. It’s where the demand is. People want to live near transi. I understand some people don’t care about that and like living further away from things (and don’t car for walkability) but by and large, growth is along transit.

https://ggwash.org/view/69029/montgomery-county-says-no-new-homes-in-silver-spring-because-the-schools-ar

No. Perceived quality of the schools is the biggest driver of where people want to live. It’s why houses in the Wootton cluster are so much more expensive than comparable homes in the Richard Montgomery or Rockville clusters. For that reason, it seems logical to put more housing in Wootton cluster.

If Wooton’s district were that popular it would already be under moritorium. Say what you want about prices but population growth proves you wrong.

In Wootton there are not many pockets where high rises are allowed, otherwise we will be seeing development there as well.


Solution is to make RM cluster 70-80% % capacity by change in boundary and that will allow future growth. Increasing 120% limit is not a solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's convenient that Twinbrook is the school that's somehow best to move, isn't it? But I think that you should show some more imagination and propose that RP be moved to Wootton. That will free up space at RM.

Wootton doesn't have space and there is less room to play around on that side of boundary. We have lots of HS on TB side. Also, this whole issue to raise RM limit is coming due to condos in TB. TB not being part of RM will allow TB to develop at faster rate.

What does that mean? If not to Wootton, Ritchie Park could be moved to Gaithersburg HS.

[i]

Yes, by all means let’s not discuss overcrowding Wootton. Keep the overcrowding issues at RM only. The Wootton cluster should not have to take in any additional development or students (sarcasm).

[b]The proposed new building is not in the Ritchie Park boundary, so why think about moving RP to Gaithersburg or Wootton? The building is in Twinbrook and many in the Twinbrook community want it, so it makes more sense to make adjustments there. There is also already approved development in the Rustin boundaries - the new Tower Oaks development.

It's a great point for moving TB ES to Wheaton or Woodward.

[Anonymous]

All this talk about changing boundaries isn’t part of the decision at hand. What is being decided is if Rockville should continue to build in two performance districts. The city has no control over school building. I say yes. Build. The county has done the same thing in Bethesda already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about changing boundaries isn’t part of the decision at hand. What is being decided is if Rockville should continue to build in two performance districts. The city has no control over school building. I say yes. Build. The county has done the same thing in Bethesda already.

County already allocated funds for ES in Bethesda.

Bethesda Chevy chase HS is not over crowded.

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RM is already over crowded. Building is not an option and situation is totally different.

[Anonymous]

Well, if they just changed some boundaries around RM wouldn't be overcrowded and they could build a bunch of new stuff. Everyone wins!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, if they just changed some boundaries around RM wouldn't be overcrowded and they could build a bunch of new stuff. Everyone wins!

MCPS has hired a consultant or probably going to hire to recommend some boundary changes by mid July. City should work with MCPS here if city really want to do anything practical. TB ES should be moved out of RM. That way TB can develop rapidly and TC can also develop rapidly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about changing boundaries isn’t part of the decision at hand. What is being decided is if Rockville should continue to build in two performance districts. The city has no control over school building. I say yes. Build. The county has done the same thing in Bethesda already.

County already allocated funds for ES in Bethesda.

Bethesda Chevy chase HS is not over crowded.

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RM is already over crowded. Building is not an option and situation is totally different.

You are factually wrong. Building is an option. The city decides this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about changing boundaries isn’t part of the decision at hand. What is being decided is if Rockville should continue to build in two performance districts. The city has no control over school building. I say yes. Build. The county has done the same thing in Bethesda already.

County already allocated funds for ES in Bethesda.

Bethesda Chevy chase HS is not over crowded.

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RM is already over crowded. Building is not an option and situation is totally different.

You are factually wrong. Building is an option. The city decides this.

I was simply talking about building more is not an sane option in RM cluster and situation is not comparable to Bethesda at all.

Now some council members don't care of kids education and want to build so surely it's an option for them.

[Anonymous]

Agree with above views.

Building more in RM cluster is not an option till we take care our existing over crowding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny how elected officials are only talking about increasing the housing and thresholds in the RM cluster and not in areas that feed into Wootton and Rockville HS. Surely increased development there would help all of Rockville?

The idea is to increase density near the red line which really only affects RM

No to mention, downtown Rockville is where more people want to live. It’s where the demand is. People want to live near transi. I understand some people don’t care about that and like living further away from things (and don’t car for walkability) but by and large, growth is along transit.

https://ggwash.org/view/69029/montgomery-county-says-no-new-homes-in-silver-spring-because-the-schools-ar

No, that is what YOU want and it is what some politicians are pushing for because they think they are in a position to make some money. It’s all about greed.

If people only wanted Metro access, there would not be all the development upcountry in Clarksburg.

SFH prices in my neighborhood have gone up over the past 5 years. Condos and townhouses have gone down. Why? There is an oversupply of condos/townhouses. And people still do want a SFH with easy parking.

People move to MoCo to have the ease that comes with living in the suburbs. You may prefer urbanization. Not all of us want to urbanize MoCo. You are more than welcome to love to DC. Or even Bethesda. Plenty of good urban options in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny how elected officials are only talking about increasing the housing and thresholds in the RM cluster and not in areas that feed into Wootton and Rockville HS. Surely increased development there would help all of Rockville?

The idea is to increase density near the red line which really only affects RM

No to mention, downtown Rockville is where more people want to live. It’s where the demand is. People want to live near transi. I understand some people don’t care about that and like living further away from things (and don’t car for walkability) but by and large, growth is along transit.

https://ggwash.org/view/69029/montgomery-county-says-no-new-homes-in-silver-spring-because-the-schools-ar

No. Perceived quality of the schools is the biggest driver of where people want to live. It’s why houses in the Wootton cluster are so much more expensive than comparable homes in the Richard Montgomery or Rockville clusters. For that reason, it seems logical to put more housing in Wootton cluster.

If Wooton’s district were that popular it would already be under moritorium. Say what you want about prices but population growth proves you wrong.

In Wootton there are not many pockets where high rises are allowed, otherwise we will be seeing development there as well.


Solution is to make RM cluster 70-80% % capacity by change in boundary and that will allow future growth. Increasing 120% limit is not a solution.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about changing boundaries isn’t part of the decision at hand. What is being decided is if Rockville should continue to build in two performance districts. The city has no control over school building. I say yes. Build. The county has done the same thing in Bethesda already.

County already allocated funds for ES in Bethesda.

Bethesda Chevy chase HS is not over crowded.

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RM is already over crowded. Building is not an option and situation is totally different.

You are factually wrong. Building is an option. The city decides this.

I was simply talking about building more is not an sane option in RM cluster and situation is not comparable to Bethesda at all.

Now some council members don't care of kids education and want to build so surely it's an option for them.

BOE members don’t care about the success of Rockville or the Town Center. You understand that the board of Ed is elected to take care of education right? They have no say on how the city develops. The city council is elected to make the city successful. These are different groups with different goals.