Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

You think American companies are hiring illegal immigrants because they don’t want to hire Americans?

Yes. Imagine the savings on salary, taxes and fees that employers have to pay for American workers. Why wouldn't employers want people in fear of deportation? They are much easier to manipulate and abuse. America has a long long history of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

Americans won't do those jobs as indentured servants. Those workers are charged room and board by the employer and paid "the remainder."

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

There was an article about how a farmer tried to hire American workers, including some college students home for the summer. Only a handful of real Americans stayed for the duration of the harvesting. The rest left.

Yeah I'm sure he did say that.

NP. So people only are truthful when what they say matches what you think?

Do you believe everything people tell you without any critical thinking?

[Anonymous]

Nah.

You know what is expensive? Supporting millions - yes MILLIONS - of illegal immigrants with government money through benefits, free health care, schooling, debit cards, housing, etc. etc. not to mention the cost (not just monetary) to the hundreds and thousands of families who have suffered from the crime inflicted on them by illegal alien criminals.

Deportation is an expense I can get behind.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

There was an article about how a farmer tried to hire American workers, including some college students home for the summer. Only a handful of real Americans stayed for the duration of the harvesting. The rest left.

Yeah I'm sure he did say that.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/07/31/634442195/when-the-u-s-government-tried-to-replace-migrant-farmworkers-with-high-schoolers

They tried it in 1965, when there weren't as many office jobs as there are today. Even the jocks found the work too hard.

This is what one of those Americans who worked the farm said recently about his experience:

But he says the experience also taught them empathy toward immigrant workers that Carter says the rest of the country should learn, especially during these times.

"There's nothing you can say to us that [migrant laborers] are rapists or they're lazy," he says. "We know the work they do. And they do it all their lives, not just one summer for a couple of months. And they raise their families on it. Anyone ever talks bad on them, I always think, 'Keep talking, buddy, because I know what the real deal is.' "

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

Americans won't do those jobs as indentured servants. Those workers are charged room and board by the employer and paid "the remainder."

Why would anyone argue in favor of this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nah.

You know what is expensive? Supporting millions - yes MILLIONS - of illegal immigrants with government money through benefits, free health care, schooling, debit cards, housing, etc. etc. not to mention the cost (not just monetary) to the hundreds and thousands of families who have suffered from the crime inflicted on them by illegal alien criminals.

Deportation is an expense I can get behind.

And you're going to pay for it with more tax cuts then complain about the debt some more.

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Another example of why we need mass deportation.....

This is one of the few criminals in NYC that Alvin Bragg has locked up. Guess the crime hit too close to home.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

There was an article about how a farmer tried to hire American workers, including some college students home for the summer. Only a handful of real Americans stayed for the duration of the harvesting. The rest left.

Yeah I'm sure he did say that.

NP. So people only are truthful when what they say matches what you think?

Do you believe everything people tell you without any critical thinking?

Answering a question with a question is a sign of deflection. I don’t believe everything people say. But having grown up in AZ among the agriculture system (knew a handful of farmers), I know that the statement is true. There are numerous programs for legal foreign workers. These became a thing because Americans do not want to pick fruit in the heat. No matter the pay.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

Americans won't do those jobs as indentured servants. Those workers are charged room and board by the employer and paid "the remainder."

This hasn’t been a thing in decades!

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

+1 the idea that illegal immigrants do jobs that Americans won't do has to be one of the greatest political lies told, believed and perpetuated in modern history. Employers skip over Americans intentionally to hire people here without authorization for a variety of reasons and they spread the lie that they can't find anyone to work. Even the new president of Mexico recently said this publicly.

Agree.

Such a sanctuary city assumption too. The illegals take all the unskilled jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think most Americans will be fine with mass deportations at this point. Dems need to get it together or they will lose every election for the next 30 years. Most Americans dislike Trump, but they also dislike it when democrats pretend illegal immigration is not a problem. https://abcnews4.com/amp/news/nation-world/dc-maryland-virginia-venezuelan-gang-violent-violence-crime-tda-tren-de-aragua-robbery-theft-venezuelan-gang-fairfax-county-president-nicolas-madura-migrants-immigrants-south-america-donald-trump-immigration-laws

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

then we need to give those foreign fruit pickers status. we cannot have a permanent underclass who live in the shadows, are both exploited and stealing ametican identities /exploiting american citizens. i used to work in a medical clininc in TP MD and so many people were sharing SS#s and scamming medicaid.

yup.

Tons of ID fraud, welfare fraud, tax fraud

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

then we need to give those foreign fruit pickers status. we cannot have a permanent underclass who live in the shadows, are both exploited and stealing ametican identities /exploiting american citizens. i used to work in a medical clininc in TP MD and so many people were sharing SS#s and scamming medicaid.

Once the foreign fruit pickers are given status, they will no longer be fruit pickers. You are missing the fact that these people are poor and desperate. That is why they work in the fields. How many second generation fruit pickers have you heard of? Once a person has options and security, they are not staying in the fields so this current system is dependent on continuously having a new group of poor people to exploit. The world will never run out of poor desperate people. We could not allow entire industries to operate on that model. Get those jobs automated.

They are getting automated- by EV AV tractors.

Eg. Monarch Tractors cost less than a contractor plus uses less labor plus has sensor panels to track soil, moisture, video crop health, etc for the farm manager.

Can mow, plan, harvest some things, pull whatever.

No gasoline either.

Win win win

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

then we need to give those foreign fruit pickers status. we cannot have a permanent underclass who live in the shadows, are both exploited and stealing ametican identities /exploiting american citizens. i used to work in a medical clininc in TP MD and so many people were sharing SS#s and scamming medicaid.

There is already a guest worker program for migrant farmworkers. If farms are using undocumented labor, it is because they don’t want to use existing formal channels. We can all speculate as to why.

So it boils down to employers choosing to hire undocumented workers. Want to stop this crap? You find out who's employing them and fine *them*, punish *them*, regulate *them.* Going after the migrants won't work unless there's nothing here for them unless done legally. But Trump/MAGA/any Republican really won't do that because it's too fun to punch down on the "illegals."

Punish both sides. At the same time .

All criminals and fraudsters deported immediately. High priority.

Stop citizenship by birth too. A fruit picker doesn’t need to show up with wives, aunts, children.