Shooting outside Nats Park

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Anonymous wrote:CNN reporting that three people wounded. One an unlucky Nats fan caught in the crossfire of a drive-by shooting. Two others involved in the shootout who "were known to law enforcement."

Is it just me, or does it seem like all violent crimes in this city are committed by people who are known to law enforcement? Why can't they be removed from the streets?

Because arresting people without crimes is not what a democracy does.

"Known to law enforcement" is the official way to say that the perpetrators already had an arrest record. They were already criminals. They were released back to the streets. They committed another crime. An innocent woman attending a Nats game suffered. This is what people are complaining about. It's not social justice to have 800,000 residents of a city be terrorized by a small percentage of repeat offenders. Get rid of them for good.

Get rid of some people for good? How?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know the movie Minority Report was supposed to be a dystopian cautionary tale, but dang if I don't wish we had a security force made up of precogs to stop crimes before they occur.

I supposed second-best solution would be to get the security personnel who screen people boarding El Al flights to train MPD how to patrol effectively by aggressively profiling behavior. The people committing these constant crimes in DC are predominantly from a very particular demographic. Cut them off at the knees, and the crimewave stops.

Unwad your panties, I'm not talking about racial profiling. I'm talking about lifestyle and behavior profiling -- stopping people who obviously are up to no good from carrying out their crimes.

Yes, you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My 3 year got out of bed and told me there were helicopters in her room. Now I know why. Unfortunately this is a frequent occurrence over here and as much I love my neighborhood, I am increasing uncomfortable and concerned.

In the heart of Navy Yard? Must of gotten worse since I was there a few years ago. It was gentrifying like crazy.

Semi fake area.

SOUTHEAST.

:mic drop:

Parent of 3 yr old here and we in SW Waterfront neighborhood. Close enough to Nats to hear and see the helicopters. Unfortunately gun shoots ( not fireworks ) have become more common over the last few months.We did not hear the Nats shooting though , just the helicopter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN reporting that three people wounded. One an unlucky Nats fan caught in the crossfire of a drive-by shooting. Two others involved in the shootout who "were known to law enforcement."

Is it just me, or does it seem like all violent crimes in this city are committed by people who are known to law enforcement? Why can't they be removed from the streets?

Because arresting people without crimes is not what a democracy does.

"Known to law enforcement" is the official way to say that the perpetrators already had an arrest record. They were already criminals. They were released back to the streets. They committed another crime. An innocent woman attending a Nats game suffered. This is what people are complaining about. It's not social justice to have 800,000 residents of a city be terrorized by a small percentage of repeat offenders. Get rid of them for good.

Get rid of some people for good? How?

Incarceration. Zero-tolerance policy for violent crimes. Stop jailing people for minor drug offenses and focus all resources on keeping murderers, rapists, and other violent criminals permanently behind bars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know the movie Minority Report was supposed to be a dystopian cautionary tale, but dang if I don't wish we had a security force made up of precogs to stop crimes before they occur.

I supposed second-best solution would be to get the security personnel who screen people boarding El Al flights to train MPD how to patrol effectively by aggressively profiling behavior. The people committing these constant crimes in DC are predominantly from a very particular demographic. Cut them off at the knees, and the crimewave stops.

Unwad your panties, I'm not talking about racial profiling. I'm talking about lifestyle and behavior profiling -- stopping people who obviously are up to no good from carrying out their crimes.

Yes, you are.

The fact that you assume criminal behaviors are linked to race makes YOU the racist.

[Anonymous]

I would like to know more about the people driving around shooting at each other. There was a great news article a while back about a bad drive by shooting that had the story of like the guy’s mother and how she kept the guns for him and all this background. That was helpful.

It seems like it’s just the same young men, dueling for little to no reason. Carelessly, and they accidentally kill babies. Who killed that little girl recently? Does he feel bad? What about the people who know he did? Are they the same as this shooting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was at the game. I thought Nats park did pretty well with making announcements to stay in the stadium etc.

But geeze talk about a rise in crime.

For people who hit the deck - quite literally, it seemed an eternity. People were screaming and running in all directions - don't know what stadium you were at.....

I was on the third base side. I got up for a snack, was walking up the ramp to go back to my seats, heard the shots that sounded outside, saw a few people looking over the side and went over to investigate and saw someone on the ground. Saw a Nats worker there too on a walkie talkie reporting & talking to someone & I said are you calling for help? And he pointed down & said cops are already there and I saw cop car & then went back to my seats to tell my friends what happened. I was surprised to see everyone ducking for cover when I got there. I told my friends - it is outside and I didn’t think we should leave. It was scary because they were all thinking it was inside though and there was a second round of shots then that sounded loud & like it could have been inside.

+1

This is exactly why after you secure the perimeter, the immediate next thing you should do is instruct the tens of thousands (!!!!!) of fans who were at their mercy. But they didn't. Instead, they wooshed the players to a safe place, then as an afterthought, minutes later, (which seem like an eternity when you are on the ground, literally ducking for cover, after sections on either side of you are screaming and fleeing, BTW) - saying to stay inside. But, hey PR comes first.

WTAF?

That sounds horrifying. No excuse!

The news said 5 mins after the shots an announcement was made to stay in the park. I don’t think that’s a crazy amount of time to figure out what is happening, what to do, and make an announcement. But I know I had extra info that it was outside so was able to stay a bit more calm inside and that it probably felt like an eternity.

If you were not there, you can sit down.

I am the one saying I was there.

[Anonymous]

There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bowser is not the problem, and I'm no Bowser fan.

Charles Allen, Karl Racine, Brianne Nadeau, etc. This is on them.

Some of this is on Bowser because the buck stops with her and our city's crime has trended up for 4-5 years, under her watch!

However, the lack of concern for residents and victims of crime in the District falls squarely on the above. Here are the Councilmembers' contacts. Have you contacted them to telegraph your disgust? I have.

https://dccouncil.us/councilmembers/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN reporting that three people wounded. One an unlucky Nats fan caught in the crossfire of a drive-by shooting. Two others involved in the shootout who "were known to law enforcement."

Is it just me, or does it seem like all violent crimes in this city are committed by people who are known to law enforcement? Why can't they be removed from the streets?

Because arresting people without crimes is not what a democracy does.

"Known to law enforcement" is the official way to say that the perpetrators already had an arrest record. They were already criminals. They were released back to the streets. They committed another crime. An innocent woman attending a Nats game suffered. This is what people are complaining about. It's not social justice to have 800,000 residents of a city be terrorized by a small percentage of repeat offenders. Get rid of them for good.

Get rid of some people for good? How?

We can start by actually locking them up for first serious offenses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

Umm.. why are there GANGS for them to join? My kids were not in school out here in McLean and I'm pretty sure there is no gang to be found.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

Umm.. why are there GANGS for them to join? My kids were not in school out here in McLean and I'm pretty sure there is no gang to be found.

I’m talking about NE and SE DC - not McLean, obviously.