Shooting outside Nats Park

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve lived in DC since ‘94. I haven’t felt this unsafe in a very long time. Daily notices of “I heard gunfire” in nextdoor for the last many months (don’t try and spin it as “firecrackers”). I think the sense of lawlessness stems from a mayor who hasn’t done a thing about rampant theft from porch pirates for more than a year now and also from zero will to do anything about public, open use of drugs. The whole city smells like pot now that it’s “legal.” These “small” crimes lead to real criminals feeling like there is no law enforcement presence and no accountability. Sucks. After 25 years, I’m moving.

And I would also add the homeless tent cities that being allowed to pop up all over the city as another way residents’ sense of safety is being impacted (along with the porch pirate and pot haze issues). I was around DuPont Circle to is morning and was bummed to see homeless tents set up everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at the game. I thought Nats park did pretty well with making announcements to stay in the stadium etc.

But geeze talk about a rise in crime.

For people who hit the deck - quite literally, it seemed an eternity. People were screaming and running in all directions - don't know what stadium you were at.....

I was on the third base side. I got up for a snack, was walking up the ramp to go back to my seats, heard the shots that sounded outside, saw a few people looking over the side and went over to investigate and saw someone on the ground. Saw a Nats worker there too on a walkie talkie reporting & talking to someone & I said are you calling for help? And he pointed down & said cops are already there and I saw cop car & then went back to my seats to tell my friends what happened. I was surprised to see everyone ducking for cover when I got there. I told my friends - it is outside and I didn’t think we should leave. It was scary because they were all thinking it was inside though and there was a second round of shots then that sounded loud & like it could have been inside.

+1

This is exactly why after you secure the perimeter, the immediate next thing you should do is instruct the tens of thousands (!!!!!) of fans who were at their mercy. But they didn't. Instead, they wooshed the players to a safe place, then as an afterthought, minutes later, (which seem like an eternity when you are on the ground, literally ducking for cover, after sections on either side of you are screaming and fleeing, BTW) - saying to stay inside. But, hey PR comes first.

WTAF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at the game. I thought Nats park did pretty well with making announcements to stay in the stadium etc.

But geeze talk about a rise in crime.

For people who hit the deck - quite literally, it seemed an eternity. People were screaming and running in all directions - don't know what stadium you were at.....

I was on the third base side. I got up for a snack, was walking up the ramp to go back to my seats, heard the shots that sounded outside, saw a few people looking over the side and went over to investigate and saw someone on the ground. Saw a Nats worker there too on a walkie talkie reporting & talking to someone & I said are you calling for help? And he pointed down & said cops are already there and I saw cop car & then went back to my seats to tell my friends what happened. I was surprised to see everyone ducking for cover when I got there. I told my friends - it is outside and I didn’t think we should leave. It was scary because they were all thinking it was inside though and there was a second round of shots then that sounded loud & like it could have been inside.

+1

This is exactly why after you secure the perimeter, the immediate next thing you should do is instruct the tens of thousands (!!!!!) of fans who were at their mercy. But they didn't. Instead, they wooshed the players to a safe place, then as an afterthought, minutes later, (which seem like an eternity when you are on the ground, literally ducking for cover, after sections on either side of you are screaming and fleeing, BTW) - saying to stay inside. But, hey PR comes first.

WTAF?

That sounds horrifying. No excuse!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moved to the District in early 90s. The lawless free for all vibe is starting to creep back in, and I haven’t felt that way in _decades_. That creepy dread where you don’t quite feel safe even in statistically safe-ish areas. The sense that trends are going in the wrong direction. The ^#&$ helicopters with spotlights, again


(And before you say it, fake-woke troll, I’m no pearl clutcher. I was living here in Barry town when you were either a fetus or peeing in your cartoon Pull-Ups in a safe Main Line suburb)

Tell it.

No one cares. Literally. The only reason people are pretending to care right now is because you could hear the gunshots on the TV and important elites were at the game.

Wrong. This is OP and honestly I only posted tonight about the nats shooting because it was so absurdly egregious. I have almost posted about the violent robberies and car jacking of a diplomat in Tenley a few nights ago (rifles and handguns), the police chase that went through residential alleyways in AU and Spring Valley resulting in the closure of Dalecarlia yesterday, the 6 lives lost outside Popeyes…the list goes on. Some people care about dc because we care about dc. Chill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at the game. I thought Nats park did pretty well with making announcements to stay in the stadium etc.

But geeze talk about a rise in crime.

For people who hit the deck - quite literally, it seemed an eternity. People were screaming and running in all directions - don't know what stadium you were at.....

I was on the third base side. I got up for a snack, was walking up the ramp to go back to my seats, heard the shots that sounded outside, saw a few people looking over the side and went over to investigate and saw someone on the ground. Saw a Nats worker there too on a walkie talkie reporting & talking to someone & I said are you calling for help? And he pointed down & said cops are already there and I saw cop car & then went back to my seats to tell my friends what happened. I was surprised to see everyone ducking for cover when I got there. I told my friends - it is outside and I didn’t think we should leave. It was scary because they were all thinking it was inside though and there was a second round of shots then that sounded loud & like it could have been inside.

+1

This is exactly why after you secure the perimeter, the immediate next thing you should do is instruct the tens of thousands (!!!!!) of fans who were at their mercy. But they didn't. Instead, they wooshed the players to a safe place, then as an afterthought, minutes later, (which seem like an eternity when you are on the ground, literally ducking for cover, after sections on either side of you are screaming and fleeing, BTW) - saying to stay inside. But, hey PR comes first.

WTAF?

That sounds horrifying. No excuse!

The news said 5 mins after the shots an announcement was made to stay in the park. I don’t think that’s a crazy amount of time to figure out what is happening, what to do, and make an announcement. But I know I had extra info that it was outside so was able to stay a bit more calm inside and that it probably felt like an eternity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at the game. I thought Nats park did pretty well with making announcements to stay in the stadium etc.

But geeze talk about a rise in crime.

For people who hit the deck - quite literally, it seemed an eternity. People were screaming and running in all directions - don't know what stadium you were at.....

I was on the third base side. I got up for a snack, was walking up the ramp to go back to my seats, heard the shots that sounded outside, saw a few people looking over the side and went over to investigate and saw someone on the ground. Saw a Nats worker there too on a walkie talkie reporting & talking to someone & I said are you calling for help? And he pointed down & said cops are already there and I saw cop car & then went back to my seats to tell my friends what happened. I was surprised to see everyone ducking for cover when I got there. I told my friends - it is outside and I didn’t think we should leave. It was scary because they were all thinking it was inside though and there was a second round of shots then that sounded loud & like it could have been inside.

+1

This is exactly why after you secure the perimeter, the immediate next thing you should do is instruct the tens of thousands (!!!!!) of fans who were at their mercy. But they didn't. Instead, they wooshed the players to a safe place, then as an afterthought, minutes later, (which seem like an eternity when you are on the ground, literally ducking for cover, after sections on either side of you are screaming and fleeing, BTW) - saying to stay inside. But, hey PR comes first.

WTAF?

That sounds horrifying. No excuse!

The news said 5 mins after the shots an announcement was made to stay in the park. I don’t think that’s a crazy amount of time to figure out what is happening, what to do, and make an announcement. But I know I had extra info that it was outside so was able to stay a bit more calm inside and that it probably felt like an eternity.

If you were not there, you can sit down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at the game. I thought Nats park did pretty well with making announcements to stay in the stadium etc.

But geeze talk about a rise in crime.

For people who hit the deck - quite literally, it seemed an eternity. People were screaming and running in all directions - don't know what stadium you were at.....

I was on the third base side. I got up for a snack, was walking up the ramp to go back to my seats, heard the shots that sounded outside, saw a few people looking over the side and went over to investigate and saw someone on the ground. Saw a Nats worker there too on a walkie talkie reporting & talking to someone & I said are you calling for help? And he pointed down & said cops are already there and I saw cop car & then went back to my seats to tell my friends what happened. I was surprised to see everyone ducking for cover when I got there. I told my friends - it is outside and I didn’t think we should leave. It was scary because they were all thinking it was inside though and there was a second round of shots then that sounded loud & like it could have been inside.

+1

This is exactly why after you secure the perimeter, the immediate next thing you should do is instruct the tens of thousands (!!!!!) of fans who were at their mercy. But they didn't. Instead, they wooshed the players to a safe place, then as an afterthought, minutes later, (which seem like an eternity when you are on the ground, literally ducking for cover, after sections on either side of you are screaming and fleeing, BTW) - saying to stay inside. But, hey PR comes first.

WTAF?

That sounds horrifying. No excuse!

The news said 5 mins after the shots an announcement was made to stay in the park. I don’t think that’s a crazy amount of time to figure out what is happening, what to do, and make an announcement. But I know I had extra info that it was outside so was able to stay a bit more calm inside and that it probably felt like an eternity.

If you were not there, you can sit down.

PP was there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moved to the District in early 90s. The lawless free for all vibe is starting to creep back in, and I haven’t felt that way in _decades_. That creepy dread where you don’t quite feel safe even in statistically safe-ish areas. The sense that trends are going in the wrong direction. The ^#&$ helicopters with spotlights, again


(And before you say it, fake-woke troll, I’m no pearl clutcher. I was living here in Barry town when you were either a fetus or peeing in your cartoon Pull-Ups in a safe Main Line suburb)

Tell it.

Indeed. Me too. Been here 40 years.

+1. I was at the game tonight. I moved here in the 80’s. In the 80’s & early 90’s, I was robbed in Union Station, and I had three different houses in Cleveland Park and Woodley Park burgled. I moved away a couple of years ago and am back visiting. Between the aggressive homeless people, tents everywhere, shuttered stores and the shooting outside the game tonight, this feels worse. At least as bad. I think if you’ve lived here all along, it’s happened so slowly, that you don’t see how bad it’s gotten. It’s very sad to me. We came back to show our DC his “hometown” and now his memory is running for his life and hiding in a restaurant bathroom.

I don’t know what the Nats announcers knew and when they knew it. But the situation tonight was chaotic. We heard gun fire and the players just disappeared from the field. I saw saw people on the other side of the stadium running, so sitting exposed in the middle of an open stadium didn’t seem like a good idea. We walked up to the concourse and the gate keepers waved us outside. As went down the steps, I heard more gunfire and the gate keepers said “run!” So we did and hid in a restaurant across the street w/ a bunch of other people. We had already been in the restaurant a while when the stadium announcer asked everyone to stay put. If you see the video, when they made that announcement, the stadium was mostly empty. In my workplace, we practice responding to “evacuate” vs. “shelter in place” announcements, and I guess I’m surprised they weren’t more prepared to quickly tell people what to do. I think the MLB is going to need to review some procedures. I am impressed that everyone I saw stayed very calm. People moved quickly, and were understandably nervous, but no one was hysterical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moved to the District in early 90s. The lawless free for all vibe is starting to creep back in, and I haven’t felt that way in _decades_. That creepy dread where you don’t quite feel safe even in statistically safe-ish areas. The sense that trends are going in the wrong direction. The ^#&$ helicopters with spotlights, again


(And before you say it, fake-woke troll, I’m no pearl clutcher. I was living here in Barry town when you were either a fetus or peeing in your cartoon Pull-Ups in a safe Main Line suburb)

Tell it.

Indeed. Me too. Been here 40 years.

+1. I was at the game tonight. I moved here in the 80’s. In the 80’s & early 90’s, I was robbed in Union Station, and I had three different houses in Cleveland Park and Woodley Park burgled. I moved away a couple of years ago and am back visiting. Between the aggressive homeless people, tents everywhere, shuttered stores and the shooting outside the game tonight, this feels worse. At least as bad. I think if you’ve lived here all along, it’s happened so slowly, that you don’t see how bad it’s gotten. It’s very sad to me. We came back to show our DC his “hometown” and now his memory is running for his life and hiding in a restaurant bathroom.

I don’t know what the Nats announcers knew and when they knew it. But the situation tonight was chaotic. We heard gun fire and the players just disappeared from the field. I saw saw people on the other side of the stadium running, so sitting exposed in the middle of an open stadium didn’t seem like a good idea. We walked up to the concourse and the gate keepers waved us outside. As went down the steps, I heard more gunfire and the gate keepers said “run!” So we did and hid in a restaurant across the street w/ a bunch of other people. We had already been in the restaurant a while when the stadium announcer asked everyone to stay put. If you see the video, when they made that announcement, the stadium was mostly empty. In my workplace, we practice responding to “evacuate” vs. “shelter in place” announcements, and I guess I’m surprised they weren’t more prepared to quickly tell people what to do. I think the MLB is going to need to review some procedures. I am impressed that everyone I saw stayed very calm. People moved quickly, and were understandably nervous, but no one was hysterical.

Glad you and your DC were ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moved to the District in early 90s. The lawless free for all vibe is starting to creep back in, and I haven’t felt that way in _decades_. That creepy dread where you don’t quite feel safe even in statistically safe-ish areas. The sense that trends are going in the wrong direction. The ^#&$ helicopters with spotlights, again


(And before you say it, fake-woke troll, I’m no pearl clutcher. I was living here in Barry town when you were either a fetus or peeing in your cartoon Pull-Ups in a safe Main Line suburb)

Tell it.

Indeed. Me too. Been here 40 years.

+1. I was at the game tonight. I moved here in the 80’s. In the 80’s & early 90’s, I was robbed in Union Station, and I had three different houses in Cleveland Park and Woodley Park burgled. I moved away a couple of years ago and am back visiting. Between the aggressive homeless people, tents everywhere, shuttered stores and the shooting outside the game tonight, this feels worse. At least as bad. I think if you’ve lived here all along, it’s happened so slowly, that you don’t see how bad it’s gotten. It’s very sad to me. We came back to show our DC his “hometown” and now his memory is running for his life and hiding in a restaurant bathroom.

I don’t know what the Nats announcers knew and when they knew it. But the situation tonight was chaotic. We heard gun fire and the players just disappeared from the field. I saw saw people on the other side of the stadium running, so sitting exposed in the middle of an open stadium didn’t seem like a good idea. We walked up to the concourse and the gate keepers waved us outside. As went down the steps, I heard more gunfire and the gate keepers said “run!” So we did and hid in a restaurant across the street w/ a bunch of other people. We had already been in the restaurant a while when the stadium announcer asked everyone to stay put. If you see the video, when they made that announcement, the stadium was mostly empty. In my workplace, we practice responding to “evacuate” vs. “shelter in place” announcements, and I guess I’m surprised they weren’t more prepared to quickly tell people what to do. I think the MLB is going to need to review some procedures. I am impressed that everyone I saw stayed very calm. People moved quickly, and were understandably nervous, but no one was hysterical.

Glad you and your DC were ok.

Thank you. I think Georgetown and George Washington are off the list now.

[Anonymous]

I know the movie Minority Report was supposed to be a dystopian cautionary tale, but dang if I don't wish we had a security force made up of precogs to stop crimes before they occur.

I supposed second-best solution would be to get the security personnel who screen people boarding El Al flights to train MPD how to patrol effectively by aggressively profiling behavior. The people committing these constant crimes in DC are predominantly from a very particular demographic. Cut them off at the knees, and the crimewave stops.

Unwad your panties, I'm not talking about racial profiling. I'm talking about lifestyle and behavior profiling -- stopping people who obviously are up to no good from carrying out their crimes.

[Anonymous]

CNN reporting that three people wounded. One an unlucky Nats fan caught in the crossfire of a drive-by shooting. Two others involved in the shootout who "were known to law enforcement."

Is it just me, or does it seem like all violent crimes in this city are committed by people who are known to law enforcement? Why can't they be removed from the streets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CNN reporting that three people wounded. One an unlucky Nats fan caught in the crossfire of a drive-by shooting. Two others involved in the shootout who "were known to law enforcement."

Is it just me, or does it seem like all violent crimes in this city are committed by people who are known to law enforcement? Why can't they be removed from the streets?

Because arresting people without crimes is not what a democracy does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN reporting that three people wounded. One an unlucky Nats fan caught in the crossfire of a drive-by shooting. Two others involved in the shootout who "were known to law enforcement."

Is it just me, or does it seem like all violent crimes in this city are committed by people who are known to law enforcement? Why can't they be removed from the streets?

Because arresting people without crimes is not what a democracy does.

"Known to law enforcement" is the official way to say that the perpetrators already had an arrest record. They were already criminals. They were released back to the streets. They committed another crime. An innocent woman attending a Nats game suffered. This is what people are complaining about. It's not social justice to have 800,000 residents of a city be terrorized by a small percentage of repeat offenders. Get rid of them for good.

[Anonymous]

Bowser wont take action until the developers start to pressure her.

They own her.