Shooting outside Nats Park

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You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.

It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.

No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?

The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.

Disagree. I spoke with other people there and the whole thing was about a half hour, whether you like it or not. Maybe you go through this all the time, maybe it is nothing to you, but people have a reasonable expectation that when a city builds a professional baseball park, even if it is in a bad area, that the fans will be kept safe.

Also, like it or not, there were all types of families t the ball park, maybe even some who (gasp!) look like you. Get over it. I hope that fan sues the city for a ton of money, and I hope it comes out of your tax money.

And yes, children should be safe, too, that goes without saying.

Boy, you people just want to fight each other. No wonder nothing has been done to fix this city. You can't get out of your own way.

I have the facts & sorry you don’t. My receipt for a pretzel was 9:24. It happened a few mins after that. At 9:31 my friend’s husband called her pretty immediately and said what happened - why did they cut the game. At 9:44 I texted my husband and my mom saying they say we can calmly evacuate.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are familiar with the area, one side of S. Capitol has been revitalized/gentrified and is commonly referred to as Navy Yard (the side with Nats Park and the Navy Yard) and then there is the other side of S. Capitol, the side with Audi field, public housing projects, boarded up and abandoned buildings, that look like east Baltimore. It is amazing how one side of S. Capitol is all shiny and literally cross the street and it is a sad war zone.

Same street.

Where are the boarded up and abandoned buildings in SW? Take your time, we're all ears.

Glad you’re all eats. So I know you think you’re clever but S Capitol divides SE and SW. Let’s say you’re standing on S. Capitol with 295 behind you and you’re looking at 395, Nats Park is on the east side of S Capitol in SE and the other side of the street which is on the west side is SW. I parked a a Nats game this week at a parking lot located at 1323 S Capitol St, SW via Park Mobile which is by the corner of S Capitol and N (there is a liquor store right there on the corner). All the buildings from N to mid block of S. Capitol were boarded up with notice of a hearing posted on the doors, same thing with the first block of N SW.

Go down there. On that side of S Capitol, which is the SW quadrant. Report back here what you see. Super sad.

Did you not notice all the new condo buildings, office buildings, restaurants, parks, etc. in the neighborhood. The whole area south of 295 from the Navy Yard to the Waterfront is being redeveloped. There are no derelict blocks there, only already developed blocks and to be developed blocks.

It was random that the shooting happened where it did. It had nothing to do with the neighborhood. Just happened they were driving on South Capitol when people in one car shot at people in another car for whatever idiotic reason. They weren’t from the neighborhood and may not even be DC residents.

Are you suggesting we should be glad that people come to DC to commit crimes?? That seems like an even worse situation. We need to understand why it’s a crime magnet.

I responded to the people blaming the neighborhood. There is no evidence it had anything to do with the game, the stadium, or the neighborhood. The only possible effect of the game and full stadium is that the police slow down traffic on South Capitol Street during games. If the shooter’s car was chasing the other car, they may have caught up with them there because of the traffic controls.

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You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.

It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.

No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?

The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.

Disagree. I spoke with other people there and the whole thing was about a half hour, whether you like it or not. Maybe you go through this all the time, maybe it is nothing to you, but people have a reasonable expectation that when a city builds a professional baseball park, even if it is in a bad area, that the fans will be kept safe.

Also, like it or not, there were all types of families t the ball park, maybe even some who (gasp!) look like you. Get over it. I hope that fan sues the city for a ton of money, and I hope it comes out of your tax money.

And yes, children should be safe, too, that goes without saying.

Boy, you people just want to fight each other. No wonder nothing has been done to fix this city. You can't get out of your own way.

I have the facts & sorry you don’t. My receipt for a pretzel was 9:24. It happened a few mins after that. At 9:31 my friend’s husband called her pretty immediately and said what happened - why did they cut the game. At 9:44 I texted my husband and my mom saying they say we can calmly evacuate.

DP. I was there as well, and my gripe is with the delay in telling people to stay put. On top of which, the ushers and gate attendants in my area *told* us to leave. That was after we waited several minutes after the players left before we even started up to the concourse. If they knew enough to evacuate the players, they could have also made an announcement in the stadium and/or communicated the plan via radio to the people working the gates. They should have a plan to immediately lock down the stadium for situations like this. I was already out of the stadium when the announcement to stay put went out. Not to mention the fact that, with all the gates open, if someone had been trying to shoot their way in, it would have been quite easy. The security prep here was non-existent, and it’s not like a shooting at a ballpark is a “black swan” event.

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Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns!!!

Sure! Why not? Screw the Constitution!!!!

The Constitution says a well-organized militia has the right to bear arms. It doesn't say that everyone is entitled to his own 9mm semiautomatic. These weapons didn't even exist then, and if they did, I am certain the founding fathers would not have enshrined ownership of such as an inalienable right above all others in the Constitution. I'd be for banning all handguns, and allowing private citizens to possess only shotguns. Professionals understand that shotguns are better than handguns for home protection anyway. And you'd have the ability to hunt your dinner. Done. No further discussion required.

There are 400,000,000+ guns and several hundred billion rounds of ammunition in this country, owned by 90,000,000 people. Good luck taking them away. Even if only 10% of those owners resisted, that’s still twice as many people as the entire military and federal, state and local law enforcement establishments combined.

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

No, crime is up in urban areas run by democrats.

Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

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You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.

It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.

No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?

The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.

Disagree. I spoke with other people there and the whole thing was about a half hour, whether you like it or not. Maybe you go through this all the time, maybe it is nothing to you, but people have a reasonable expectation that when a city builds a professional baseball park, even if it is in a bad area, that the fans will be kept safe.

Also, like it or not, there were all types of families t the ball park, maybe even some who (gasp!) look like you. Get over it. I hope that fan sues the city for a ton of money, and I hope it comes out of your tax money.

And yes, children should be safe, too, that goes without saying.

Boy, you people just want to fight each other. No wonder nothing has been done to fix this city. You can't get out of your own way.

I have the facts & sorry you don’t. My receipt for a pretzel was 9:24. It happened a few mins after that. At 9:31 my friend’s husband called her pretty immediately and said what happened - why did they cut the game. At 9:44 I texted my husband and my mom saying they say we can calmly evacuate.

DP. I was there as well, and my gripe is with the delay in telling people to stay put. On top of which, the ushers and gate attendants in my area *told* us to leave. That was after we waited several minutes after the players left before we even started up to the concourse. If they knew enough to evacuate the players, they could have also made an announcement in the stadium and/or communicated the plan via radio to the people working the gates. They should have a plan to immediately lock down the stadium for situations like this. I was already out of the stadium when the announcement to stay put went out. Not to mention the fact that, with all the gates open, if someone had been trying to shoot their way in, it would have been quite easy. The security prep here was non-existent, and it’s not like a shooting at a ballpark is a “black swan” event.

Back to add that the club level seats behind home plate were emptied out immediately & this is quite apparent from the video of last night. In fact, we were sitting nearby, and seeing that section empty was a factor in our decision to leave. So, *some* of the ushers were told what to do. Also, the video of the “stay in the stadium” announcement also clearly shows a virtually empty stadium.

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You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.

It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.

No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?

The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.

Disagree. I spoke with other people there and the whole thing was about a half hour, whether you like it or not. Maybe you go through this all the time, maybe it is nothing to you, but people have a reasonable expectation that when a city builds a professional baseball park, even if it is in a bad area, that the fans will be kept safe.

Also, like it or not, there were all types of families t the ball park, maybe even some who (gasp!) look like you. Get over it. I hope that fan sues the city for a ton of money, and I hope it comes out of your tax money.

And yes, children should be safe, too, that goes without saying.

Boy, you people just want to fight each other. No wonder nothing has been done to fix this city. You can't get out of your own way.

I have the facts & sorry you don’t. My receipt for a pretzel was 9:24. It happened a few mins after that. At 9:31 my friend’s husband called her pretty immediately and said what happened - why did they cut the game. At 9:44 I texted my husband and my mom saying they say we can calmly evacuate.

DP. I was there as well, and my gripe is with the delay in telling people to stay put. On top of which, the ushers and gate attendants in my area *told* us to leave. That was after we waited several minutes after the players left before we even started up to the concourse. If they knew enough to evacuate the players, they could have also made an announcement in the stadium and/or communicated the plan via radio to the people working the gates. They should have a plan to immediately lock down the stadium for situations like this. I was already out of the stadium when the announcement to stay put went out. Not to mention the fact that, with all the gates open, if someone had been trying to shoot their way in, it would have been quite easy. The security prep here was non-existent, and it’s not like a shooting at a ballpark is a “black swan” event.

Back to add that the club level seats behind home plate were emptied out immediately & this is quite apparent from the video of last night. In fact, we were sitting nearby, and seeing that section empty was a factor in our decision to leave. So, *some* of the ushers were told what to do. Also, the video of the “stay in the stadium” announcement also clearly shows a virtually empty stadium.

I was sitting in those seats behind home plate, in section 124 (hey, I was invited to a company's recruiting event and wasn't about to turn down a chance to check out the Diamond Club). I was up and out of my seat within 10 seconds of hearing the gunshots (no way they could be mistaken for fireworks, IMO) and it sounded like it was coming from inside the stadium, somewhere in the 3rd base side. No one was directing anyone in the section, and I only moved after considering my options, the calculus being it's better to be inside than out in the open. By then, there was already a crowd of people leaving the stands through the Diamond Club doors, then through the exit right outside. I hesitated at the exit, thinking it might be safer inside the concourse, but the second set of gunshots rang out and the gate attendant told us to run. If there was some "ushers [that] were told what to do" in that section, they certainly didn't come around to tell me. My theory why that section might have emptied out so quickly is because a) the Diamond Club can fit a lot of people who also didn't feel like being sitting ducks, and b) the home plate exit is right outside the entrance to the Diamond Club. To suggest that some people got preferential treatment during an active shooter situation is a little messed up.

Also, second the 15 minute timeline, based on text messages between me and my wife at home refreshing Twitter for any info:
9:31 - I text her "I'm ok" from outside the stadium
9:42 - she sent me a picture of the "...incident is outside...remain inside..." up on the board inside the stadium
9:47 - @Nationals posts to exit via CF and RF gates

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

No, crime is up in urban areas run by democrats.

Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

Yes, they weren't rude like that, but the same underlying attitude is what happened to us when our car was stolen in DC. it was an insurance matter. No gumshoe detective work, no fingerprinting, no pulling video feed. Video feed in DC is basically to raise tax revenue for traffic violations. They might pull it for a shooting. "Might"

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You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.

It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.

No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?

The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.

Disagree. I spoke with other people there and the whole thing was about a half hour, whether you like it or not. Maybe you go through this all the time, maybe it is nothing to you, but people have a reasonable expectation that when a city builds a professional baseball park, even if it is in a bad area, that the fans will be kept safe.

Also, like it or not, there were all types of families t the ball park, maybe even some who (gasp!) look like you. Get over it. I hope that fan sues the city for a ton of money, and I hope it comes out of your tax money.

And yes, children should be safe, too, that goes without saying.

Boy, you people just want to fight each other. No wonder nothing has been done to fix this city. You can't get out of your own way.

I have the facts & sorry you don’t. My receipt for a pretzel was 9:24. It happened a few mins after that. At 9:31 my friend’s husband called her pretty immediately and said what happened - why did they cut the game. At 9:44 I texted my husband and my mom saying they say we can calmly evacuate.

DP. I was there as well, and my gripe is with the delay in telling people to stay put. On top of which, the ushers and gate attendants in my area *told* us to leave. That was after we waited several minutes after the players left before we even started up to the concourse. If they knew enough to evacuate the players, they could have also made an announcement in the stadium and/or communicated the plan via radio to the people working the gates. They should have a plan to immediately lock down the stadium for situations like this. I was already out of the stadium when the announcement to stay put went out. Not to mention the fact that, with all the gates open, if someone had been trying to shoot their way in, it would have been quite easy. The security prep here was non-existent, and it’s not like a shooting at a ballpark is a “black swan” event.

Back to add that the club level seats behind home plate were emptied out immediately & this is quite apparent from the video of last night. In fact, we were sitting nearby, and seeing that section empty was a factor in our decision to leave. So, *some* of the ushers were told what to do. Also, the video of the “stay in the stadium” announcement also clearly shows a virtually empty stadium.

I was sitting in those seats behind home plate, in section 124 (hey, I was invited to a company's recruiting event and wasn't about to turn down a chance to check out the Diamond Club). I was up and out of my seat within 10 seconds of hearing the gunshots (no way they could be mistaken for fireworks, IMO) and it sounded like it was coming from inside the stadium, somewhere in the 3rd base side. No one was directing anyone in the section, and I only moved after considering my options, the calculus being it's better to be inside than out in the open. By then, there was already a crowd of people leaving the stands through the Diamond Club doors, then through the exit right outside. I hesitated at the exit, thinking it might be safer inside the concourse, but the second set of gunshots rang out and the gate attendant told us to run. If there was some "ushers [that] were told what to do" in that section, they certainly didn't come around to tell me. My theory why that section might have emptied out so quickly is because a) the Diamond Club can fit a lot of people who also didn't feel like being sitting ducks, and b) the home plate exit is right outside the entrance to the Diamond Club. To suggest that some people got preferential treatment during an active shooter situation is a little messed up.

Also, second the 15 minute timeline, based on text messages between me and my wife at home refreshing Twitter for any info:
9:31 - I text her "I'm ok" from outside the stadium
9:42 - she sent me a picture of the "...incident is outside...remain inside..." up on the board inside the stadium
9:47 - @Nationals posts to exit via CF and RF gates

Thanks for also confirming there was a second set of gunshots! I was with 3 friends - and two of us heard the second set and the third didnt. And yesterday I said to them - “I haven’t seen any press on the second set of gunshots. Did it really happen or did we hallucinate it?

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

No, crime is up in urban areas run by democrats.

Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

This person is 100% correct. Homicide data is the only stat you can trust when looking at urban crime trends can not be manufactured because they’re cross checked by the FBI and you usually can’t make dead bodies disappear. So much crime goes unreported, is reclassified as a lesser offense to please superior officers and to juke the stats, etc.

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The fake hysteria is comical. Nobody gives a darn about plebs. And your hot air complains are pretty meaningless since they know you won't move. Unless you're a fat cat business owner or developer, frankly, your opinion means nothing. D.C. is booming and everyone will forget about this by tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns!!!

Sure! Why not? Screw the Constitution!!!!

The Constitution says a well-organized militia has the right to bear arms. It doesn't say that everyone is entitled to his own 9mm semiautomatic. These weapons didn't even exist then, and if they did, I am certain the founding fathers would not have enshrined ownership of such as an inalienable right above all others in the Constitution. I'd be for banning all handguns, and allowing private citizens to possess only shotguns. Professionals understand that shotguns are better than handguns for home protection anyway. And you'd have the ability to hunt your dinner. Done. No further discussion required.

There are 400,000,000+ guns and several hundred billion rounds of ammunition in this country, owned by 90,000,000 people. Good luck taking them away. Even if only 10% of those owners resisted, that’s still twice as many people as the entire military and federal, state and local law enforcement establishments combined.

I don't want anyone to take guns away from lawful owners. But I *do* want MANDATORY background checks and gun registration and a central database tracking *EVERY* gun transfer and periodic verification that the guns registered are still in their owners possession, so that we can at least start to find out where the guns are coming from. A federal bureau of prisons study found that 80% of guns were obtained through friends, through family, through gun shows, et cetera. I think if someone is buying 20 guns a year that should be scrutinized. That person had damn well better still have every single gun they ever bought or otherwise be able to account for every single one because frankly there is an entire cottage industry of illicit guns out there. Contrary to what the NRA says "well they are criminals so the guns they use are stolen," only 20% of guns used by criminals were stolen - and in many cases gun owners were specifically targeted for theft because the criminals wanted their guns. I myself am a gun owner and would happily do this if it helps stop the flow of guns to criminals. I think ballistics, serial numbers, et cetera should be 100% traceable with very serious consequences for anyone trying to skirt the laws. We are nowhere near where we need to be where it comes to keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.

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Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

This person is 100% correct. Homicide data is the only stat you can trust when looking at urban crime trends can not be manufactured because they’re cross checked by the FBI and you usually can’t make dead bodies disappear. So much crime goes unreported, is reclassified as a lesser offense to please superior officers and to juke the stats, etc.

Over the 4th of July weekend, my quiet hometown's police department's Facebook page was blasting multiple photos of a single bicycle thief (from an open garage). Meaning not only did they care, but a detective actually took the time to compile evidence from multiple homeowners in the vicinity. And the detective caught him! Imagine any inner-city police department pursuing a single bicycle theft!

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be a way to stop crime without resorting to racist policing policies. Our leaders MUST find a way.

I don’t agree with defunding the police but I think changes can certainly be made. I also don’t think the pandemic helped.

Can you be specific? Crime has trended up in DC for the past 4 years.

One of my first jobs was being a teacher in DC. I don’t think being out of in person school for over a year helped kids like my former students stay away from joining gangs, for example.

I think it’s a fact - not my opinion - that crime is up all over the country right now.

No, crime is up in urban areas run by democrats.

Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

This person is 100% correct. Homicide data is the only stat you can trust when looking at urban crime trends can not be manufactured because they’re cross checked by the FBI and you usually can’t make dead bodies disappear. So much crime goes unreported, is reclassified as a lesser offense to please superior officers and to juke the stats, etc.

It's false to claim it's a "Democrat" thing as crime rates went up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville as well.