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[Anonymous]

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Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

This person is 100% correct. Homicide data is the only stat you can trust when looking at urban crime trends can not be manufactured because they’re cross checked by the FBI and you usually can’t make dead bodies disappear. So much crime goes unreported, is reclassified as a lesser offense to please superior officers and to juke the stats, etc.

Over the 4th of July weekend, my quiet hometown's police department's Facebook page was blasting multiple photos of a single bicycle thief (from an open garage). Meaning not only did they care, but a detective actually took the time to compile evidence from multiple homeowners in the vicinity. And the detective caught him! Imagine any inner-city police department pursuing a single bicycle theft!

Mayberry R.F.D.

[Anonymous]

t's false to claim it's a "Democrat" thing as crime rates went up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville as well.

I think the characterization of the rising crime being a "Democrat-thing" is less about who is running the city and more about how this is the effect (only partially, as Covid chaos has certainly played a part) of the anti-police protests from last summer---which were, largely, more overtly supported and endorsed by Democrats.

When ALL police are characterized as brutal thugs who persecute minorities---which is how a lot of last summer came across---then no one should be surprised if police efforts are now not what they should be. And when unrealistic council members like Nadeau and Allan worsen DC policies which were already pretty bad when it came to "catch & release" for violent offenders---that just compounds the problem.

I can believe that policing needs to be reformed to make it easier to toss the bad apples, and that the prison-for-profit system which has flourished since the 1980s also needs to be changed, while at the same time believing that violent offenders need to be removed from the general public and not allowed to continue to terrorize.

[Anonymous]

The problem is anti-gentrification and anti-police presence sentiment. I agree we should send social workers to help drug addicts, instead of police, but really we are getting soft in so many ways. The push toward amorphous equity goals and shoving in affordable housing wherever we can only fosters crime.

Seriously. It sucks to hear it.

The most recent comprehensive plan was contentious and finally hashed out, after a bunch of religious affordable housing advocates and others protested the lack of extreme low income housing (less than 30% ami) being included in the plan. So now, places like Reservation 13 can expect to have a ton of subsidized housing, which only grandfathers in poverty. That whole area is going to be all affordable housing. You will see multiple generations of people living in the same subsidized housing and it’ll be another Potomac Gardens situation where there is a ton of crime surrounding a project.

We need to stop seeing people as being “displaced” if they can afford the rent. Let a city gentrify. Let it get better. If people can’t afford it let them move to places they can. When you keep poverty stricken people housed in perpetuity their offspring commit crimes. I know everyone likes to root for the underdog and all that, but seriously if you didn’t build projects or let the market work as it should dc would get a ton safer. But then certain council members would lose their constituents and blah blah. So this will repeat ad infinitum as another poster noted. Everyone is so obsessed with housing poor people who are the cause of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

t's false to claim it's a "Democrat" thing as crime rates went up in Republican-run cities like Jacksonville as well.

I think the characterization of the rising crime being a "Democrat-thing" is less about who is running the city and more about how this is the effect (only partially, as Covid chaos has certainly played a part) of the anti-police protests from last summer---which were, largely, more overtly supported and endorsed by Democrats.

When ALL police are characterized as brutal thugs who persecute minorities---which is how a lot of last summer came across---then no one should be surprised if police efforts are now not what they should be. And when unrealistic council members like Nadeau and Allan worsen DC policies which were already pretty bad when it came to "catch & release" for violent offenders---that just compounds the problem.

I can believe that policing needs to be reformed to make it easier to toss the bad apples, and that the prison-for-profit system which has flourished since the 1980s also needs to be changed, while at the same time believing that violent offenders need to be removed from the general public and not allowed to continue to terrorize.

"Police have low morale because of the protests" - but they brought it on themselves. It's not as though any of this was a big surprise. I'm old enough to remember calls for police reforms going back to the Rodney King beating in the 1990s and very little actually changed, despite decades of protests and calls for reforms.

Worse yet one cynical part of me is wondering if some in the police are deliberately allowing crime to escalate given how many comments I've seen on various forums about "let's see how you like it when crime rises because of defunding calls"

I think the Mayor, Chief, Council and others need to focus on any bad apples and demand accountability, and have them removed from the force.

I do think MPD needs to reprioritize. I don't care about minor offenses as much as I do violent crime. I think the Mayor, Council and others need to be clear and strong in messaging and policymaking that violent crime including robbery or other crimes involving threat of violence need to be front and center and prosecuted to the fullest extent possible. Likewise, serial offenders. NO "catch and release" treatment for them, NO pleading-down unless they provide something of great value, like prosecutable evidence/testimony against worse offenders. I think the city needs to come up with a way to address gang-related juvenile violence, which has kids growing up thinking they can get away with crime because the prosecutors won't hold juveniles accountable. Any "compassionate" approaches around juveniles MUST include something that will remove juveniles from the gang or other criminal influences.

[Anonymous]

I do think MPD needs to reprioritize. I don't care about minor offenses as much as I do violent crime. I think the Mayor, Council and others need to be clear and strong in messaging and policymaking that violent crime including robbery or other crimes involving threat of violence need to be front and center and prosecuted to the fullest extent possible. Likewise, serial offenders. NO "catch and release" treatment for them, NO pleading-down unless they provide something of great value, like prosecutable evidence/testimony against worse offenders. I think the city needs to come up with a way to address gang-related juvenile violence, which has kids growing up thinking they can get away with crime because the prosecutors won't hold juveniles accountable. Any "compassionate" approaches around juveniles MUST include something that will remove juveniles from the gang or other criminal influences.

Yep. Best thing that could happen to lots of these juvenile offenders would be to be sent to some type of highly regimented boot camp environment, except with mandated psychotherapy. And have it be way, way away from DC. Boot camp needs to be up at 5, physical activity---everything like basic training except firearms---. Big, big emphasis on honor, integrity, positive relationship to greater community. Get rid of the BS "he disrespected me so I had to shoot him" nonsense and instill what respect, self esteem, and self empowerment really are about. These kids need to be repatterned away from the pathologies of multi-generational poverty. Honestly, what I am describing are the types of programs that high income families with off-the-rails kids pay for in order to get kids back on track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is anti-gentrification and anti-police presence sentiment. I agree we should send social workers to help drug addicts, instead of police, but really we are getting soft in so many ways. The push toward amorphous equity goals and shoving in affordable housing wherever we can only fosters crime.

Seriously. It sucks to hear it.

The most recent comprehensive plan was contentious and finally hashed out, after a bunch of religious affordable housing advocates and others protested the lack of extreme low income housing (less than 30% ami) being included in the plan. So now, places like Reservation 13 can expect to have a ton of subsidized housing, which only grandfathers in poverty. That whole area is going to be all affordable housing. You will see multiple generations of people living in the same subsidized housing and it’ll be another Potomac Gardens situation where there is a ton of crime surrounding a project.

We need to stop seeing people as being “displaced” if they can afford the rent. Let a city gentrify. Let it get better. If people can’t afford it let them move to places they can. When you keep poverty stricken people housed in perpetuity their offspring commit crimes. I know everyone likes to root for the underdog and all that, but seriously if you didn’t build projects or let the market work as it should dc would get a ton safer. But then certain council members would lose their constituents and blah blah. So this will repeat ad infinitum as another poster noted. Everyone is so obsessed with housing poor people who are the cause of crime.

You hit the nail on the head with this, and couldn't agree more. There are so many subsidized loans in place to allow people to buy homes with incredibly low down payments. We should be ok with people moving to a far outer suburb because it means they can buy and maintain a small beautiful home, but instead we build inner city housing projects and give people section 8 vouchers. The housing projects turn into dumps because no one can afford to maintain them properly, and residents aren't incentivized to take care of anything.

[Anonymous]

How many of us (assuming you grew up in one of the major cities) can afford the neighborhoods we grew up in? I can't. Are we all displaced, too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns!!!

Yes. I’m sure every firearm involved was (1) lawfully purchased; (2) lawfully registered; (3) lawfully carried with a duly issued permit; and (4) lawfully possessed by a person not prohibited from firearms.

Because if any of those things weren’t true, the firearms in question were already “banned.”

+1000

Criminals don't grow guns in their garden. They don't whittle guns out of sticks. A federal bureau of prisons study of inmates found that fully 80% of guns used in crimes were obtained by various quasi-legal means like having friends or family buy them, straw buys, sketchy dealers and gunrunners, gun shows, et cetera. Only around 20% were stolen. Meanwhile that 20% stolen guns number also includes people who were specifically targeted for robbing because the criminals knew you had guns. So much for guns being a deterrent.

If we mandated traceability and accountability like mandatory registration and periodic checks to ensure people still have the guns they purchased in their possession that would eliminate the 80%.

Straw sales, etc., are already unlawful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is anti-gentrification and anti-police presence sentiment. I agree we should send social workers to help drug addicts, instead of police, but really we are getting soft in so many ways. The push toward amorphous equity goals and shoving in affordable housing wherever we can only fosters crime.

Seriously. It sucks to hear it.

The most recent comprehensive plan was contentious and finally hashed out, after a bunch of religious affordable housing advocates and others protested the lack of extreme low income housing (less than 30% ami) being included in the plan. So now, places like Reservation 13 can expect to have a ton of subsidized housing, which only grandfathers in poverty. That whole area is going to be all affordable housing. You will see multiple generations of people living in the same subsidized housing and it’ll be another Potomac Gardens situation where there is a ton of crime surrounding a project.

We need to stop seeing people as being “displaced” if they can afford the rent. Let a city gentrify. Let it get better. If people can’t afford it let them move to places they can. When you keep poverty stricken people housed in perpetuity their offspring commit crimes. I know everyone likes to root for the underdog and all that, but seriously if you didn’t build projects or let the market work as it should dc would get a ton safer. But then certain council members would lose their constituents and blah blah. So this will repeat ad infinitum as another poster noted. Everyone is so obsessed with housing poor people who are the cause of crime.

You hit the nail on the head with this, and couldn't agree more. There are so many subsidized loans in place to allow people to buy homes with incredibly low down payments. We should be ok with people moving to a far outer suburb because it means they can buy and maintain a small beautiful home, but instead we build inner city housing projects and give people section 8 vouchers. The housing projects turn into dumps because no one can afford to maintain them properly, and residents aren't incentivized to take care of anything.

+1 to both these posts. It’s a tough cycle but it’s the only way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Outside of homicides, inner-city crime reporting data is not in any way accurate. And even when homicides decline, you have to look at the entire metro areas to see if they really declined or if a % just moved into inner-ring suburbs. In addition, police response in the suburbs is 5 minutes for every call, resident are busy bodies who call for everything, and everything is actually pursued. In contrast to a major city, 911 response can be upwards of hours (if they even bother showing up) and apathetic pursuit of crimes. So not only are countless reports not written, after a while people just don't bother calling 911. And when police do show up in inner-cities, they often treat residents like crap. I was mugged in college in an inner-city (not D.C.) and the police laughed at my girlfriends and basically blamed us. When we asked if they'll be pursuing it they basically called us idiots and said this isn't a TV show. Behavior like this makes city residents just not bother calling 911 anymore, like, what's the point? Plus they manipulate the stats, change definitions and categories, and prosecutors drop charges; all kinds of juking and manipulation games being played with inner-city crime data.

Again, about the only category you can trust is the homicide tally.

This person is 100% correct. Homicide data is the only stat you can trust when looking at urban crime trends can not be manufactured because they’re cross checked by the FBI and you usually can’t make dead bodies disappear. So much crime goes unreported, is reclassified as a lesser offense to please superior officers and to juke the stats, etc.

Over the 4th of July weekend, my quiet hometown's police department's Facebook page was blasting multiple photos of a single bicycle thief (from an open garage). Meaning not only did they care, but a detective actually took the time to compile evidence from multiple homeowners in the vicinity. And the detective caught him! Imagine any inner-city police department pursuing a single bicycle theft!

+1. Longtime DC residents may not realize this, but there are lots of places in the US where law enforcement actually tries to catch criminals and hold them accountable.

[Anonymous]

Went to the Nats vs. Marlins game tonight. It was a blowout, we had a blast. I don't cower in constant fear of everything like the resident right wingers.

You are welcome to stay home, out there in Mayberry, cowering in fear, clenching your AR-15s. The rest of us are enjoying life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to the Nats vs. Marlins game tonight. It was a blowout, we had a blast. I don't cower in constant fear of everything like the resident right wingers.

You are welcome to stay home, out there in Mayberry, cowering in fear, clenching your AR-15s. The rest of us are enjoying life.

You’re obsessed with this Mayberry thing. It was sorta funny the first post. But this is like the 5th or 6th.

Get some new material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bowser is not the problem, and I'm no Bowser fan.

Charles Allen, Karl Racine, Brianne Nadeau, etc. This is on them.

-1

They're all Democrats. That's the real problem. This is what you're city turns into when progressive democrat policies for criminal justice reform and defunding the police take hold. Criminals run the city with zero repercussions. DC is turning into Mad Max.

Yeah, no. I'm a CENTRIST Democratic like Bowser and we are all about cracking the whip. You think Obama and Biden were are soft on crime? Think again. This is on Allen and Racine and that ilk. They need to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Went to the Nats vs. Marlins game tonight. It was a blowout, we had a blast. I don't cower in constant fear of everything like the resident right wingers.

You are welcome to stay home, out there in Mayberry, cowering in fear, clenching your AR-15s. The rest of us are enjoying life.

You’re obsessed with this Mayberry thing. It was sorta funny the first post. But this is like the 5th or 6th.

Get some new material.

I definitely haven't posted it "5 or 6 times" - so others must be, too. But if you're seeing a lot of comments like that directed at you then it's a sure sign that some of us think you aren't really from DC, and don't think you know what you're talking about where it comes to DC, and think you need to get out of your small town bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is anti-gentrification and anti-police presence sentiment. I agree we should send social workers to help drug addicts, instead of police, but really we are getting soft in so many ways. The push toward amorphous equity goals and shoving in affordable housing wherever we can only fosters crime.

Seriously. It sucks to hear it.

The most recent comprehensive plan was contentious and finally hashed out, after a bunch of religious affordable housing advocates and others protested the lack of extreme low income housing (less than 30% ami) being included in the plan. So now, places like Reservation 13 can expect to have a ton of subsidized housing, which only grandfathers in poverty. That whole area is going to be all affordable housing. You will see multiple generations of people living in the same subsidized housing and it’ll be another Potomac Gardens situation where there is a ton of crime surrounding a project.

We need to stop seeing people as being “displaced” if they can afford the rent. Let a city gentrify. Let it get better. If people can’t afford it let them move to places they can. When you keep poverty stricken people housed in perpetuity their offspring commit crimes. I know everyone likes to root for the underdog and all that, but seriously if you didn’t build projects or let the market work as it should dc would get a ton safer. But then certain council members would lose their constituents and blah blah. So this will repeat ad infinitum as another poster noted. Everyone is so obsessed with housing poor people who are the cause of crime.

You hit the nail on the head with this, and couldn't agree more. There are so many subsidized loans in place to allow people to buy homes with incredibly low down payments. We should be ok with people moving to a far outer suburb because it means they can buy and maintain a small beautiful home, but instead we build inner city housing projects and give people section 8 vouchers. The housing projects turn into dumps because no one can afford to maintain them properly, and residents aren't incentivized to take care of anything.

When was the last “inner city housing project” built?