Does every kids event have to involve food?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP maybe you need a second opinion. My DD has bad food-triggered eczema and the allergist sAys the best thing we can do is a very intense cream + bathing regimen and encouraging all of the foods even the trigger foods. She says this is the best way DD can grow out of the allergies.

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I can't believe only one person has brought this up. Both of my kids have severe eczema, as do many family members. We have seen lots of doctors and our allergist has always said to eat normally and treat the eczema. Not eating the trigger foods makes it worse, their bodies need to get used to them and that's how they eventually outgrow them. OP, you need a second opinion and frankly the fact that you are depriving your kid of all of these foods when that's not the standard medical advice gives me major pause here.

You might want to get a second opinion yourself - guidance has changed a lot. If you constantly eat something that inflames your system it’s bad for you and your body needs a break.

If your eczema flares clear easily with this approach and you don’t mind constantly medicating then I guess go ahead. But that doesn’t make other people crazy to favor a proactive approach vs reactive, especially if they have more severe symptoms that have a bigger impact on their day to day life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very telling that Americans would rather smear their children with steroids instead of laying off the Doritos and whatever fell into the vat at the Kraft factory. I battled on and off horrible eczema for 20 years due to a gluten and dairy allergy and then topical steroid withdrawal in my late twenties for two years because my parents were told food allergies couldn’t possibly be causing my skin issues and to just smear on more creams. Children don’t NEED junk, they eat it because parents are lazy and don’t want to cook. Kids are perfectly fine with fresh fruit and vegetables and meat and fish. An apple and some carrot sticks is a snack, not Pirates Booty and granola bars that have more sugar that a Snickers. The western diet is killing all of us slowly, the rest of the world sees it, Americans just refuse to admit it.

This made me laugh and is unfortunately true. I am with you, I had eczema as a kid and it sucked and I wish I’d made the dietary connection sooner than my 20s. I am eczema free now and can still eat smaller amounts of dairy but not nearly as much as before. I still shudder thinking of the ever present, greasy steroid creams of my youth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with what you’re saying. No, every event should not involve food!! Kids get enough calories and junk as it is. They do not need donuts at a swim meet.

Agree 100 percent. There is too much food and too many sweets.

My kids don’t have food allergies/issues like OP’s, but I am with these posters. Junk food at everything is one big reason kids who play sports are no more likely to be a healthy weight than those who don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP maybe you need a second opinion. My DD has bad food-triggered eczema and the allergist sAys the best thing we can do is a very intense cream + bathing regimen and encouraging all of the foods even the trigger foods. She says this is the best way DD can grow out of the allergies.

+100
I can't believe only one person has brought this up. Both of my kids have severe eczema, as do many family members. We have seen lots of doctors and our allergist has always said to eat normally and treat the eczema. Not eating the trigger foods makes it worse, their bodies need to get used to them and that's how they eventually outgrow them. OP, you need a second opinion and frankly the fact that you are depriving your kid of all of these foods when that's not the standard medical advice gives me major pause here.

You might want to get a second opinion yourself - guidance has changed a lot. If you constantly eat something that inflames your system it’s bad for you and your body needs a break.

If your eczema flares clear easily with this approach and you don’t mind constantly medicating then I guess go ahead. But that doesn’t make other people crazy to favor a proactive approach vs reactive, especially if they have more severe symptoms that have a bigger impact on their day to day life.

Do you have a source for that? Because I will trust my Harvard educated pediatric allergist over someone on the internet. And we don't medicate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very telling that Americans would rather smear their children with steroids instead of laying off the Doritos and whatever fell into the vat at the Kraft factory. I battled on and off horrible eczema for 20 years due to a gluten and dairy allergy and then topical steroid withdrawal in my late twenties for two years because my parents were told food allergies couldn’t possibly be causing my skin issues and to just smear on more creams. Children don’t NEED junk, they eat it because parents are lazy and don’t want to cook. Kids are perfectly fine with fresh fruit and vegetables and meat and fish. An apple and some carrot sticks is a snack, not Pirates Booty and granola bars that have more sugar that a Snickers. The western diet is killing all of us slowly, the rest of the world sees it, Americans just refuse to admit it.

This made me laugh and is unfortunately true. I am with you, I had eczema as a kid and it sucked and I wish I’d made the dietary connection sooner than my 20s. I am eczema free now and can still eat smaller amounts of dairy but not nearly as much as before. I still shudder thinking of the ever present, greasy steroid creams of my youth

There's so much idiocy on this thread. OP says her kid can't eat "wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes, chocolate, nuts, preservatives, annatto, sorbitol"

Ok so no Kraft cheese for her kid. But no wheat? No dairy? No eggs? I'm one of the PPs with kids with eczema. Contrary to what you people think I don't actually load my kids up with Fruit Loops. But guess what? Wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes and nuts are actually healthy foods! Or are we supposed to eliminate all of that as well?

OP sounds like she has orthorexia and Munchausen's by proxy quite frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very telling that Americans would rather smear their children with steroids instead of laying off the Doritos and whatever fell into the vat at the Kraft factory. I battled on and off horrible eczema for 20 years due to a gluten and dairy allergy and then topical steroid withdrawal in my late twenties for two years because my parents were told food allergies couldn’t possibly be causing my skin issues and to just smear on more creams. Children don’t NEED junk, they eat it because parents are lazy and don’t want to cook. Kids are perfectly fine with fresh fruit and vegetables and meat and fish. An apple and some carrot sticks is a snack, not Pirates Booty and granola bars that have more sugar that a Snickers. The western diet is killing all of us slowly, the rest of the world sees it, Americans just refuse to admit it.

This made me laugh and is unfortunately true. I am with you, I had eczema as a kid and it sucked and I wish I’d made the dietary connection sooner than my 20s. I am eczema free now and can still eat smaller amounts of dairy but not nearly as much as before. I still shudder thinking of the ever present, greasy steroid creams of my youth

There's so much idiocy on this thread. OP says her kid can't eat "wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes, chocolate, nuts, preservatives, annatto, sorbitol"

Ok so no Kraft cheese for her kid. But no wheat? No dairy? No eggs? I'm one of the PPs with kids with eczema. Contrary to what you people think I don't actually load my kids up with Fruit Loops. But guess what? Wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes and nuts are actually healthy foods! Or are we supposed to eliminate all of that as well?

OP sounds like she has orthorexia and Munchausen's by proxy quite frankly.

Well…yes, actually. Yes, a child can be allergic to healthy foods…and those reactions can include eczema flares.
I’m a PP who has a toddler who is anaphylactic to egg. Upon her (frankly very terrifying) anaphylactic reaction upon her very first bite of scrambled egg at 9mo, we were referred to a pediatric allergist. One of the first questions he asked was about eczema. She’d had severe eczema on her face and back that we managed with triamcinolone, but it magically cleared up when she weaned ar around 7mo. I ate tons of egg while breastfeeding. Scrambled, omelets, egg in baked goods, casseroles, etc. Her allergist is of the opinion that the severe eczema that we dealt with for the first 7 months of her life was tied to exposure to egg protein through my breastmilk.
I’m sick of people pretending allergies aren’t legit. Trust me, I would rather NOT have a young child dealing with a life-threatening allergy to a food as difficult to avoid as eggs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very telling that Americans would rather smear their children with steroids instead of laying off the Doritos and whatever fell into the vat at the Kraft factory. I battled on and off horrible eczema for 20 years due to a gluten and dairy allergy and then topical steroid withdrawal in my late twenties for two years because my parents were told food allergies couldn’t possibly be causing my skin issues and to just smear on more creams. Children don’t NEED junk, they eat it because parents are lazy and don’t want to cook. Kids are perfectly fine with fresh fruit and vegetables and meat and fish. An apple and some carrot sticks is a snack, not Pirates Booty and granola bars that have more sugar that a Snickers. The western diet is killing all of us slowly, the rest of the world sees it, Americans just refuse to admit it.

This made me laugh and is unfortunately true. I am with you, I had eczema as a kid and it sucked and I wish I’d made the dietary connection sooner than my 20s. I am eczema free now and can still eat smaller amounts of dairy but not nearly as much as before. I still shudder thinking of the ever present, greasy steroid creams of my youth

There's so much idiocy on this thread. OP says her kid can't eat "wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes, chocolate, nuts, preservatives, annatto, sorbitol"

Ok so no Kraft cheese for her kid. But no wheat? No dairy? No eggs? I'm one of the PPs with kids with eczema. Contrary to what you people think I don't actually load my kids up with Fruit Loops. But guess what? Wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes and nuts are actually healthy foods! Or are we supposed to eliminate all of that as well?

OP sounds like she has orthorexia and Munchausen's by proxy quite frankly.

You’re a complete moron. I have celiacs and can’t have wheat. It’s not something you grow out of it. And dairy is terrible for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very telling that Americans would rather smear their children with steroids instead of laying off the Doritos and whatever fell into the vat at the Kraft factory. I battled on and off horrible eczema for 20 years due to a gluten and dairy allergy and then topical steroid withdrawal in my late twenties for two years because my parents were told food allergies couldn’t possibly be causing my skin issues and to just smear on more creams. Children don’t NEED junk, they eat it because parents are lazy and don’t want to cook. Kids are perfectly fine with fresh fruit and vegetables and meat and fish. An apple and some carrot sticks is a snack, not Pirates Booty and granola bars that have more sugar that a Snickers. The western diet is killing all of us slowly, the rest of the world sees it, Americans just refuse to admit it.

This made me laugh and is unfortunately true. I am with you, I had eczema as a kid and it sucked and I wish I’d made the dietary connection sooner than my 20s. I am eczema free now and can still eat smaller amounts of dairy but not nearly as much as before. I still shudder thinking of the ever present, greasy steroid creams of my youth

There's so much idiocy on this thread. OP says her kid can't eat "wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes, chocolate, nuts, preservatives, annatto, sorbitol"

Ok so no Kraft cheese for her kid. But no wheat? No dairy? No eggs? I'm one of the PPs with kids with eczema. Contrary to what you people think I don't actually load my kids up with Fruit Loops. But guess what? Wheat, dairy, eggs, corn, tomatoes and nuts are actually healthy foods! Or are we supposed to eliminate all of that as well?

OP sounds like she has orthorexia and Munchausen's by proxy quite frankly.

Well…yes, actually. Yes, a child can be allergic to healthy foods…and those reactions can include eczema flares.
I’m a PP who has a toddler who is anaphylactic to egg. Upon her (frankly very terrifying) anaphylactic reaction upon her very first bite of scrambled egg at 9mo, we were referred to a pediatric allergist. One of the first questions he asked was about eczema. She’d had severe eczema on her face and back that we managed with triamcinolone, but it magically cleared up when she weaned ar around 7mo. I ate tons of egg while breastfeeding. Scrambled, omelets, egg in baked goods, casseroles, etc. Her allergist is of the opinion that the severe eczema that we dealt with for the first 7 months of her life was tied to exposure to egg protein through my breastmilk.
I’m sick of people pretending allergies aren’t legit. Trust me, I would rather NOT have a young child dealing with a life-threatening allergy to a food as difficult to avoid as eggs.

It frankly boggles my mind as well that people still don’t believe in food allergies to what they consider “healthy foods”. They can absolutely exacerbate eczema and of course cause anaphylactic reactions. because they cause inflammation. There’s a reason that companies are required to label things like eggs in processed foods and why schools don’t allow nuts. Most doctors and dermatologists have very little training in nutrition. If you’re lucky to find a health professional that reads the latest research, it’s a different story. I still remember when doctors would dismiss probiotics after antibiotic treatment and now it’s standard practice to recommend it. For years the food guidelines in the US were absolutely wrong and we pushed low fat diets because the sugar industry bribed Harvard into publishing BS studies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very telling that Americans would rather smear their children with steroids instead of laying off the Doritos and whatever fell into the vat at the Kraft factory. I battled on and off horrible eczema for 20 years due to a gluten and dairy allergy and then topical steroid withdrawal in my late twenties for two years because my parents were told food allergies couldn’t possibly be causing my skin issues and to just smear on more creams. Children don’t NEED junk, they eat it because parents are lazy and don’t want to cook. Kids are perfectly fine with fresh fruit and vegetables and meat and fish. An apple and some carrot sticks is a snack, not Pirates Booty and granola bars that have more sugar that a Snickers. The western diet is killing all of us slowly, the rest of the world sees it, Americans just refuse to admit it.

This made me laugh and is unfortunately true. I am with you, I had eczema as a kid and it sucked and I wish I’d made the dietary connection sooner than my 20s. I am eczema free now and can still eat smaller amounts of dairy but not nearly as much as before. I still shudder thinking of the ever present, greasy steroid creams of my youth

I’m the PP, it frankly makes me angry at times. When I was going through topical steroid withdrawal, a lot of my hair fell out and I couldn’t regulate my body temperature, I spent the first 6 months in a bathtub because my skin was just destroyed by the steroids, it took two years of my life. It didn’t have to be like that. I have no eczema anymore as long as I stay away from gluten and dairy (I too can eat smaller amounts but eating cheese every other day is never going to happen for me).

[Anonymous]

What I don't believe in are the blood tests that tell you to what you are allergic.

"These procedures (IgG testing, electrodermal testing, cytotoxic testing, provocation/neutralization, and applied kinesiology) have largely been unproven and may lead to unnecessary elimination diets."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29132671/

and

"A recent review of the role of food in atopic dermatitis concluded that a small number of particular foods may provoke exacerbations of atopic dermatitis in a subset (about 35%) of individuals, and food-specific antibody testing of any kind does not identify these instances."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3314037/

[Anonymous]

We are constantly stuffing our kids with food food food and then we wonder : why are they fat?

[Anonymous]

No one is saying healthy foods can't cause allergies. But people are claiming kids have allergies because they eat crap, and obviously that isn't the case because again, HEALTHY FOODS CAUSE ALLERGIES. What PP was saying is that you can't blame allergies on Kraft.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I don't believe in are the blood tests that tell you to what you are allergic.

"These procedures (IgG testing, electrodermal testing, cytotoxic testing, provocation/neutralization, and applied kinesiology) have largely been unproven and may lead to unnecessary elimination diets."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29132671/

and

"A recent review of the role of food in atopic dermatitis concluded that a small number of particular foods may provoke exacerbations of atopic dermatitis in a subset (about 35%) of individuals, and food-specific antibody testing of any kind does not identify these instances."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3314037/

No decent allergist orders blood testing in the absence of an obvious reaction.
Reactions trump testing because, yes, the bloodwork isn't always accurate. But it can help confirm, for those who have had a reaction. But doing the testing just for the heck of it, in the absence of a history of reaction to that particular food, isn't reliable. At least that is according to our pediatric allergist who refuses to test foods until we have tried them and observed a reaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are constantly stuffing our kids with food food food and then we wonder : why are they fat?

Also creating a nation of picky eaters. I heard a mom say her kid will only eat chicken nuggets and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Kid was roaming around the playground with those disgusting veggie chip things that are passed off as health food but is basically just starch and food coloring. Like, no wonder your kid won’t eat a real meal. Also, celebrating a sporting event or school event with food is just ridiculous. What ever happened to just getting your medal or ribbon and calling it a day?

[Anonymous]

For DC in K, I was so shocked on the snack duties as a parent. We show up for 8 weeks of baseball and get told which week we need to provide snack to the entire team! Then on soccer, it was the same thing. Also, for K (pre-Covid) we were responsible for providing the entire class with a snack once a month.
This was such things as: Pringles, Pirate Booty, cheddar bunnies, Vege Chips ( which are really just potato chips), etc. and for their birthday you were allowed to bring in something like Chips Ahoy. I was always scrounging around the grocery store looking for something to satisfy all these snack duties. I think it is over done. The kids do not even seem grateful after 50 minutes of baseball. Many times they are racing off to the next soccer game. They will complain that they don't like the snack that you brought or they've never had it. Also, they typically just grab it and leave. It's not like they're developing social skills with other children over eating.