I don't want to go on a 2 week vacation

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Anonymous wrote:DH (and kids!) really want to go on a 2 week vacation in August and I just don't want to. I don't like being gone from home that long; I don't like how my work piles up. I'm training for a race and I've got a garden to tend. We also have a dog and no good options on where to keep him for that long. Maybe I'm just a homebody. One week at a time seems sufficient for a vacation. I want to just come home early but I'm getting a lot of grief for suggesting that.

Count your blessings and be thankful you can afford to spend the money on a vacation.


Not helpful.

And if OP’s husband is like mine, he wants to take the vacation even if it’s not in the budget.

It wasn’t meant to be helpful. You two better get DH’s spending habits under control or you both will find yourselves complaining about money issues.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.


No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"


My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.


LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?


It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.



Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Or maybe she, like a lot of moms, will feel frustrated by how much her life she gave up for her kids when her kids didn’t really need her to?


Sorry but no. Preferring to work than vacation with your family is the stuff that strained relations are made of when kids grow up. Listen to Cats and the Cradle.


The dad in cats cradle never spent a week with his kid on vacation!

Also how is this different than taking any time off from kids? I think we would all say that it’s totally fine when a parent wants to go out for several days to be with friends. And OP isn’t even telling her family she doesn’t want to be with them, just that she has things she needs to do at home.

I think it’s good for kids to see that their parents have their own lives. People tend to respect moms more when they are very present and loving with their kids but also set boundaries so they can live their own lives too.


It's 2 weeks of a family vacation. Not giving up all her free time for the rest of her life.


Well of course not. OP would survive and this one instance wouldn’t make her life appreciably worse. But that doesn’t mean it is wrong or selfish of her to not want to go on an extra week of vacation when she is already straining herself to go for a week. Her husband and kids can spend time with her at home, they will be fine. Or they can go have fun without her.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Or maybe she, like a lot of moms, will feel frustrated by how much her life she gave up for her kids when her kids didn’t really need her to?


Sorry but no. Preferring to work than vacation with your family is the stuff that strained relations are made of when kids grow up. Listen to Cats and the Cradle.


The dad in cats cradle never spent a week with his kid on vacation!

Also how is this different than taking any time off from kids? I think we would all say that it’s totally fine when a parent wants to go out for several days to be with friends. And OP isn’t even telling her family she doesn’t want to be with them, just that she has things she needs to do at home.

I think it’s good for kids to see that their parents have their own lives. People tend to respect moms more when they are very present and loving with their kids but also set boundaries so they can live their own lives too.


It's 2 weeks of a family vacation. Not giving up all her free time for the rest of her life.


A 2-week family vacation is excessive. It is expensive and it is excessive. A lot of people do not want to be away from home for more than a week. It's disruptive. An exception is international travel due to time to travel. No one needs a two-week family vacation. It's absurd. And absurb people are guilting OP into doing it. One week is more than enough. If he wants two weeks, he can do one week alone with the kids.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.


No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"


My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.


LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?


It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.



Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.


Religion. That is not hard to understand.
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Op, your kids and She are asking you to be more engaged with them. It's totally your right to continue the introvert thing, but realize this is what they are telling you.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Or maybe she, like a lot of moms, will feel frustrated by how much her life she gave up for her kids when her kids didn’t really need her to?


Sorry but no. Preferring to work than vacation with your family is the stuff that strained relations are made of when kids grow up. Listen to Cats and the Cradle.


The dad in cats cradle never spent a week with his kid on vacation!

Also how is this different than taking any time off from kids? I think we would all say that it’s totally fine when a parent wants to go out for several days to be with friends. And OP isn’t even telling her family she doesn’t want to be with them, just that she has things she needs to do at home.

I think it’s good for kids to see that their parents have their own lives. People tend to respect moms more when they are very present and loving with their kids but also set boundaries so they can live their own lives too.


It's 2 weeks of a family vacation. Not giving up all her free time for the rest of her life.


A 2-week family vacation is excessive. It is expensive and it is excessive. A lot of people do not want to be away from home for more than a week. It's disruptive. An exception is international travel due to time to travel. No one needs a two-week family vacation. It's absurd. And absurb people are guilting OP into doing it. One week is more than enough. If he wants two weeks, he can do one week alone with the kids.


People who couch subjective opinions as objective facts make it impossible to have an intelligent discussion.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.


No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"


My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.


LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?


It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.



Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.


Religion. That is not hard to understand.


So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.
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I could never be married to someone like OP. This is an important question to ask while dating! Thankfully spouse and I both love to travel.
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Anonymous wrote:If my dh told me gardening and not boarding the dog and work took priority over spending two weeks together, I would be upset and giving them grief too.

It's just two weeks OP. I am sure a neighbor would gladly look after the garden if you allow them to harvest the ripe tomatoes, and that some boarding facility will be available for your dog.


OP here. Wow, I'm surprised my little complaint got so much feedback!

It isn't that gardening, etc. take priority over spending two weeks together. It's that I'd rather spend 2 weeks together HERE instead of THERE. I cannot imagine asking my neighbors to take care of my garden and boarding the dog for 2 weeks seems cruel. I also don't have anyone available to take care of him; all good friends either have cats or allergies or will be on vacation themselves.

The vacation involves travel to my inlaws on the west coast and it's too expensive to fly out there twice in one summer to do two 1 week vacations. I didn't specify that because the inlaws aren't the issue; they are lovely people and we end up not spending too much time with them, as DH loves to run around with the kids to local sights, to the beach (yep, I hate the beach), and to visit his friends and none of it sounds appealing to me. It's just go-go-go. I can beg off on some of the excursions, but that just means staying in the house and reading or watching tv, which isn't what I want to do either. It will take up all my vacation time, my work will pile up (I'm not a workaholic, but I do have to work extra before and after time away), and I guess I like my routine. 1 week seems plenty. We usually go for about 1 week and I start itching to get back home about 2 days prior to our departure date, but he wants to extend, probably because we had to skip last year.


Why can't the dog come with you since you aren't flying? Maybe rent a pet friendly air bnb


We are flying. I was responding to the suggestion to take two 1 week vacations instead of 1 two-week vacation. It's too expensive to fly the 5 of us twice in one summer. We stay with the in-laws when we go there.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.


No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"


My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.


LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?


It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.



Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.


Religion. That is not hard to understand.


So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.


stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Or maybe she, like a lot of moms, will feel frustrated by how much her life she gave up for her kids when her kids didn’t really need her to?


Sorry but no. Preferring to work than vacation with your family is the stuff that strained relations are made of when kids grow up. Listen to Cats and the Cradle.


The dad in cats cradle never spent a week with his kid on vacation!

Also how is this different than taking any time off from kids? I think we would all say that it’s totally fine when a parent wants to go out for several days to be with friends. And OP isn’t even telling her family she doesn’t want to be with them, just that she has things she needs to do at home.

I think it’s good for kids to see that their parents have their own lives. People tend to respect moms more when they are very present and loving with their kids but also set boundaries so they can live their own lives too.


It's 2 weeks of a family vacation. Not giving up all her free time for the rest of her life.


A 2-week family vacation is excessive. It is expensive and it is excessive. A lot of people do not want to be away from home for more than a week. It's disruptive. An exception is international travel due to time to travel. No one needs a two-week family vacation. It's absurd. And absurb people are guilting OP into doing it. One week is more than enough. If he wants two weeks, he can do one week alone with the kids.


When I was growing up, we did two-month long vacations. Every summer, my father piled the entire family - 3 kids sans dogs and cats - into the family wagon for the drive north from Florida to my grandparents house on Cape Cod. My father would then return home (fly) and spend a month by himself. This was the time he did all the work on the house. When July ended he came back and we drove south to my other grandparents house in Ocean City, NJ. We spent all of August there with my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. I have fond memories of these vacations, the time spent with family, etc. All of them are gone now. I realize I was blessed to have this experience.

We also did one or two short vacations - a Labor Day trip with friends to Naples or Vero Beach and a Disney trip once a year, usually tied to my Dad’s travel for work.

OP doesn’t want a two-week vacation. She can choose not to go.
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Anonymous wrote:If op was a DH you would all be eating him alive for skipping out on family time to train for a race and do work

Since I'm not sexist I'll go ahead and rip OP a new one. Press pause on your life for 2 weeks and go on the trip.
I think that's because most people view their husband, and other husbands as not pulling their weight or lazy when nit comes to kid and household duties. I see it over and over again, post after post. Not saying it' right or that I agree with this, I'm just commenting that this is why some people would change their tune if the roles were reversed.



This board is just incredibly sexist.

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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Not OP, but I would rather be home with my kids. Not on vacation. I hate vacations. I find them too stressful. A week is more than enough. I would only a go a week, maximum. I prefer no vacations at all.

I, I, I... how are you so focused on what YOU like and want. You choose to be a mom, no? Sure, take time to do what you like and want, but come on, you and op are just self-centered people.
If you have anxiety and vacations are stressful, that is not bcs vacations are stressful that is bcs you are that type of person. Think about how you are in everyday situations. Be honest now, are you the cause of stress on vacations and not the activity itself? I grew up with a mom like you, the simplest activity turned into a nightmare stress fest bcs she created the stress.


No, I did not "choose" to be a mom. 50% of pregnancies are unplanned. I chose not to get an abortion. No one is missing out in life not going on a two-week vacation.

Your kids must know how you feel about them. They are "not abortions!"


My kids know they magically happened. I love them and am a good parent. But I have been perfectly happy not having kids at all. It was not my plan and an absolute shock both times.
Anyway, no one needs to go on a two-week vacation. One week is plenty. Stop shaming the OP that she NEEDS to go on a two-week vacation. It's ridiculous. I have not ever been on a 2-week vacation. Some people can't afford vacation at all. My parents never had vacations. It is a luxury for people. It is not a necessity. If she does not want to go, she shoud not feel obligated to go--especially for two weeks. Everyone--including a mother--is allowed to have her own needs and preferences and her family should respect that. She should not have to be a martyr for everyone else. I was raised that way...and it sucks. I don't put up with it anymore. Men don't. Why should women? She can have her preference for a week of vacation or no vacation. Her preferences should be considered by the family.


LOL, if that happened twice, that is a YOU problem, not a birth control problem. Maybe you aren't very smart?


It's called reproductive coercion and a spouse who refused to use birth control (after the first accident to which I said "I don't want to have a baby...get off me...but "no, it is not going to happen." Had no sex between kids for years and no sex afterward. I'm divorced now. I resent him. Yeah, I was an idiot for letting someone coerce me into sex the first time when I was off the pill for a day. And I regret having sex once more YEARS later and him refusing to pull out. Be glad you did not marry a jerk. This could have been anticipated.



Yes you tell this story in every thread but never explain why you didn't get an abortion either time.


Religion. That is not hard to understand.


So it was your choice to be their parent. Goodbye and stop derailing this thread.


stop asking questions and starting stuff off with...you "chose to be a parent"--a lot of people don't and that comment was not relevant to the discussion. I did not start it but I will chime in when people make ridiculous comments like that. Choosing--or not choosing--to be a parent does not obligate them to go on a 2-week vacation.


You did choose to be a parent when you chose not to have an abortion. And while their father sucks your kids did deserve you telling them you didn't want them. Get therapy.
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Anonymous wrote:When the kids are gone, which will be sooner than you think, you’ll regret not taking more time to be with them.


Or maybe she, like a lot of moms, will feel frustrated by how much her life she gave up for her kids when her kids didn’t really need her to?


Sorry but no. Preferring to work than vacation with your family is the stuff that strained relations are made of when kids grow up. Listen to Cats and the Cradle.


The dad in cats cradle never spent a week with his kid on vacation!

Also how is this different than taking any time off from kids? I think we would all say that it’s totally fine when a parent wants to go out for several days to be with friends. And OP isn’t even telling her family she doesn’t want to be with them, just that she has things she needs to do at home.

I think it’s good for kids to see that their parents have their own lives. People tend to respect moms more when they are very present and loving with their kids but also set boundaries so they can live their own lives too.


It's 2 weeks of a family vacation. Not giving up all her free time for the rest of her life.


A 2-week family vacation is excessive. It is expensive and it is excessive. A lot of people do not want to be away from home for more than a week. It's disruptive. An exception is international travel due to time to travel. No one needs a two-week family vacation. It's absurd. And absurb people are guilting OP into doing it. One week is more than enough. If he wants two weeks, he can do one week alone with the kids.


When I was growing up, we did two-month long vacations. Every summer, my father piled the entire family - 3 kids sans dogs and cats - into the family wagon for the drive north from Florida to my grandparents house on Cape Cod. My father would then return home (fly) and spend a month by himself. This was the time he did all the work on the house. When July ended he came back and we drove south to my other grandparents house in Ocean City, NJ. We spent all of August there with my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. I have fond memories of these vacations, the time spent with family, etc. All of them are gone now. I realize I was blessed to have this experience.

We also did one or two short vacations - a Labor Day trip with friends to Naples or Vero Beach and a Disney trip once a year, usually tied to my Dad’s travel for work.

OP doesn’t want a two-week vacation. She can choose not to go.


What op wants is to refuse to engage with her family in a way that they find meaningful.
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