Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

[Anonymous]

Being skinny is like being rich. Some people are born that way. Some people work really hard to achieve it.

Being average or overweight is no more moral failing than being poor is. Sure some poor people got that way through poor choices, but probably not all or even most of them. Sure some fat people made bad choices and make too many excuses - but most people are just working against their genes and environment.

[Anonymous]

I was aways thin but it was a lot of work for me. A lot.
A few years ago, I "gave up." I gained almost 20 pounds, but I was finally happy.

I exercise for an hour a day, plus 90 minutes of dog walking now because I want to and I enjoy it.

I make super healthy food choices (even if I eat too much of those choices!) because I feel like I am taking care of myself instead of trying to maintain a weight.

I care about myself more now because I've given up caring about a certain look. I am incredibly healthy and over the the last few months, I have naturally dropped almost ten pounds just by living my life.

Back then,. I tried to trick myself into believing it was about my health, but my subconscious knew better. My anxiety levels have plummeted now.

This is MY psychology. It never felt like moral superiority, it felt like torture. I wouldn't wish that kind of body self image and living on anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was aways thin but it was a lot of work for me. A lot.
A few years ago, I "gave up." I gained almost 20 pounds, but I was finally happy.

I exercise for an hour a day, plus 90 minutes of dog walking now because I want to and I enjoy it.

I make super healthy food choices (even if I eat too much of those choices!) because I feel like I am taking care of myself instead of trying to maintain a weight.

I care about myself more now because I've given up caring about a certain look. I am incredibly healthy and over the the last few months, I have naturally dropped almost ten pounds just by living my life.

Back then,. I tried to trick myself into believing it was about my health, but my subconscious knew better. My anxiety levels have plummeted now.

This is MY psychology. It never felt like moral superiority, it felt like torture. I wouldn't wish that kind of body self image and living on anyone.

So, you had an eating disorder? Congrats on overcoming it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I completely understand if a person grows up in poverty, in a food desert, and/or without access to medical care/advice. However, OP, if that doesn't apply to you, you sound a little privileged and like you are assuming the role of a victim whereas there are so many true victims in our country whose health suffers because of dire circumstances and an inability to escape them.

Except I am not overweight, not in the slightest. I have had the privilege of learning how to cook the old-fashioned way, and was blessed with some genetics. What am I a victim of then?

Then what are you complaining about? Being thin?

OP is thin, but not fit and doesn't understand the difference.

Thin and fit! Try harder.

Walking your dog does not make you "fit" OP.

But, walking all day for my job (except today, clearly does) and doing physical lifting for around 3 hours per day does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Rather than call out the food industry here for being what it is, an appalling aberration akin to a chemical plant"

See, I was with you until this. Then I realized you're a nut job.

I do think that is a little nutty, but have you heard anecdotes from people who moved to America from, say, Europe and gained weight eating exactly the same things? I have no proof but I think it’s more likely than not that the food itself that we consume makes it harder to be thin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I am having a real good time reversing the roles and seeing all the outrage in the "thin" posters!
How ardent you are in not being bullied for being thin!
How ardent to defend your "moral" superiority.
None sees the hypocrisy where you have a thread of 62 pages with most of them attacking overweight people for the same exact thing you are now offended by!
Judging people based on their weight.

Oh well, at least we are thin.

Thank you for being honest!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I completely understand if a person grows up in poverty, in a food desert, and/or without access to medical care/advice. However, OP, if that doesn't apply to you, you sound a little privileged and like you are assuming the role of a victim whereas there are so many true victims in our country whose health suffers because of dire circumstances and an inability to escape them.

Except I am not overweight, not in the slightest. I have had the privilege of learning how to cook the old-fashioned way, and was blessed with some genetics. What am I a victim of then?

Then what are you complaining about? Being thin?

About nasty people, like you who judge people based on their weight and use their skinny status to feel superior to those that, are not skinny. Newsflash, you are not morally superior to overweight people, you just act like you are. I am also complaining about ripping other women, yes, mostly women apart so you can feel better about being a shallow, insecure person. I am also complaining about those that think the food industry is not to share 90% of the responsibility for the obesity epidemic.

I have bounced around weight wise - and I do believe that the food industry and the government are complicit in poisoning us through the food supply. Sugar is in everything rocketing insulin levels. The food pyramid is completely inverted from what was promoted in the 60's and 70's. Back in the 80's the government and science decreed that fat was making us fat so they proceeded to replace fat with sugar, sugar and chemicals. Add in strapped for time working families (which equals stress, which equal cortisol which equals the propensity to gain weight) and voila! an obesity epidemic that only big pharma can solve. That said, exercise and eating from the edges of the supermarket do a great deal to combat over processed convenience food. The key is having the time and not being stressed and rushed where it's easy to just jam down a big mac. So yes it is societal, but it is also individual choices made inch by inch or bite by bite. You choose what to put into your mouth. You choose to sit and watch Netflix instead of going to an exercise class.

And remember there is no money in cures! Be fat, be addicted to our food, get sick. We've got a pill for that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I am having a real good time reversing the roles and seeing all the outrage in the "thin" posters!
How ardent you are in not being bullied for being thin!
How ardent to defend your "moral" superiority.
None sees the hypocrisy where you have a thread of 62 pages with most of them attacking overweight people for the same exact thing you are now offended by!
Judging people based on their weight.

Oh well, at least we are thin.

Thank you for being honest!

If you can't beat them, join them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s about morality but is about discipline at a certain point. I say this as a person who has often lacked the discipline to make healthy dietary choices and make time for adequate exercise. I know when I reach for the junk and relax on the couch instead of going for a walk that I’m making lazy choices. I always had excuses— work, kids, commute, difficulty managing stress, a variety of health issues—but it really did come down to lack of discipline. Trying to turn over a new leaf, but it is challenging after a decade of increasingly bad habits. That’s on no one but me.

You just displayed a moral judgement and proved OP’s point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was aways thin but it was a lot of work for me. A lot.
A few years ago, I "gave up." I gained almost 20 pounds, but I was finally happy.

I exercise for an hour a day, plus 90 minutes of dog walking now because I want to and I enjoy it.

I make super healthy food choices (even if I eat too much of those choices!) because I feel like I am taking care of myself instead of trying to maintain a weight.

I care about myself more now because I've given up caring about a certain look. I am incredibly healthy and over the the last few months, I have naturally dropped almost ten pounds just by living my life.

Back then,. I tried to trick myself into believing it was about my health, but my subconscious knew better. My anxiety levels have plummeted now.

This is MY psychology. It never felt like moral superiority, it felt like torture. I wouldn't wish that kind of body self image and living on anyone.

So, you had an eating disorder? Congrats on overcoming it.

No, I did not have an eating disorder. That's not at all what I said. Your response was unnecessarily hostile and rude and reductive. Congrats on the trifecta of being a dick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s about morality but is about discipline at a certain point. I say this as a person who has often lacked the discipline to make healthy dietary choices and make time for adequate exercise. I know when I reach for the junk and relax on the couch instead of going for a walk that I’m making lazy choices. I always had excuses— work, kids, commute, difficulty managing stress, a variety of health issues—but it really did come down to lack of discipline. Trying to turn over a new leaf, but it is challenging after a decade of increasingly bad habits. That’s on no one but me.

+1 It’s all about discipline.

Signed - Someone trying to lose 30 lbs gained because of lack of discipline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I completely understand if a person grows up in poverty, in a food desert, and/or without access to medical care/advice. However, OP, if that doesn't apply to you, you sound a little privileged and like you are assuming the role of a victim whereas there are so many true victims in our country whose health suffers because of dire circumstances and an inability to escape them.

Except I am not overweight, not in the slightest. I have had the privilege of learning how to cook the old-fashioned way, and was blessed with some genetics. What am I a victim of then?

Then what are you complaining about? Being thin?

About nasty people, like you who judge people based on their weight and use their skinny status to feel superior to those that, are not skinny. Newsflash, you are not morally superior to overweight people, you just act like you are. I am also complaining about ripping other women, yes, mostly women apart so you can feel better about being a shallow, insecure person. I am also complaining about those that think the food industry is not to share 90% of the responsibility for the obesity epidemic.

I have bounced around weight wise - and I do believe that the food industry and the government are complicit in poisoning us through the food supply. Sugar is in everything rocketing insulin levels. The food pyramid is completely inverted from what was promoted in the 60's and 70's. Back in the 80's the government and science decreed that fat was making us fat so they proceeded to replace fat with sugar, sugar and chemicals. Add in strapped for time working families (which equals stress, which equal cortisol which equals the propensity to gain weight) and voila! an obesity epidemic that only big pharma can solve. That said, exercise and eating from the edges of the supermarket do a great deal to combat over processed convenience food. The key is having the time and not being stressed and rushed where it's easy to just jam down a big mac. So yes it is societal, but it is also individual choices made inch by inch or bite by bite. You choose what to put into your mouth. You choose to sit and watch Netflix instead of going to an exercise class.

And remember there is no money in cures! Be fat, be addicted to our food, get sick. We've got a pill for that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html

I agree with all this, but a big problem is when we equate poor health choices to poor moral choices and poor character. Look at how people respond to an Instagram post with a fat person showing their rolls, and then look at a post of somebody smoking or somebody saying “wow I never, ever sleep enough.” Or even “I did absolutely nothing today except watch TV.”

Smoking, sleeping too little, and lazing about are all poor choices, but (thin) people who do those things aren’t subject to harsh moral judgment the way people who eat too much are.

[Anonymous]

I have always been in the average range, whether working or SAH, in D.C. or in Europe or Asia, childfree or mom of 3. I have always watched my diet and exercised conscientiously. I am glad to be healthy but there are costs. The heavier women I know who have focused on other things seem to have accomplished so much more in life. They do more for other people and have far more impressive careers and are more loving wives.

[Anonymous]

I recently lost weight and became fit. I love being healthy and more energetic but mostly I adore not being fat.

My clothes look great, my face looks younger and prettier, I have beautiful swanlike neck now and I get admiring looks from everyone around me. Most importantly I feel like a winner.

Being fat is not just about your body being larger because that honestly would not look bad. What is so terrible about being obese is that people become misshapen and grotesque. They don't look human instead they look like a gluttonous anthropomorphized pig. There is nothing attractive about a fat person. Nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I recently lost weight and became fit. I love being healthy and more energetic but mostly I adore not being fat.

My clothes look great, my face looks younger and prettier, I have beautiful swanlike neck now and I get admiring looks from everyone around me. Most importantly I feel like a winner.

Being fat is not just about your body being larger because that honestly would not look bad. What is so terrible about being obese is that people become misshapen and grotesque. They don't look human instead they look like a gluttonous anthropomorphized pig. There is nothing attractive about a fat person. Nothing.

Oh my goodness. Get back to us when you, like the majority of people who lose weight, gain it back. Hopefully you will realize that a beautiful swanlike neck is not what really matters in life.