Top 100 undergrad CS by US News

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Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

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My DD just graduated from VT in CS after spending two years at NVCC. She got an offer from Amazon in Northern Virginia for a salary of 125k/yr. DD is certified in AWS while finishing up her undergraduate degree at VT.

People are talking about 300k+ package (base+bonus+RSU), even 400k from FAANG+ for MIT fresh graduates this year.

FAANG isn't 400k (unless you could 4 years of RSU as one). FAANG caps out around 230k a year tops (maybe 320k with bonus).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

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My DD just graduated from VT in CS after spending two years at NVCC. She got an offer from Amazon in Northern Virginia for a salary of 125k/yr. DD is certified in AWS while finishing up her undergraduate degree at VT.

People are talking about 300k+ package (base+bonus+RSU), even 400k from FAANG+ for MIT fresh graduates this year.

FAANG isn't 400k (unless you could 4 years of RSU as one). FAANG caps out around 230k a year tops (maybe 320k with bonus).

Don't remember exactly. Maybe it was Jane Street with SWE role for 400k. But Google can definitely get to 300k total (not counting sign on).

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Anonymous wrote:These rankings are usually based on faculty productivity. Number of publications, amount of research grant money brought in. That is highly correlated with the size of the faculty, of course. More professors means more papers and more money.

"Top academics and officials at computer science programs rated the overall quality of undergraduate programs with which they were familiar on a 1-5 scale. A school’s undergraduate computer science rank is solely determined by its average of scores received from these surveys. To be included in this standalone peer assessment survey and ranked, a program must either have been accredited by ABET, housed in an institution that grants Ph.D.s in computer science or engineering, or have recently awarded 20 or more bachelor's degrees in computer science."

Considering the ABET requirement, I guess that would a number of SLACs from consideration. Interesting to, that in the case of NYU, CS program at Tandon Engineering would be included, but most receive degrees from the CAS.

My SLAC alma mater graduates about 50 CS majors per year.

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Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

+1

My DD just graduated from VT in CS after spending two years at NVCC. She got an offer from Amazon in Northern Virginia for a salary of 125k/yr. DD is certified in AWS while finishing up her undergraduate degree at VT.

People are talking about 300k+ package (base+bonus+RSU), even 400k from FAANG+ for MIT fresh graduates this year.

FAANG isn't 400k (unless you could 4 years of RSU as one). FAANG caps out around 230k a year tops (maybe 320k with bonus).

Don't remember exactly. Maybe it was Jane Street with SWE role for 400k. But Google can definitely get to 300k total (not counting sign on).

Google (and to some extent Apple) are probably the most willing to match/engage in bidding wars over new grads, so I guess that makes sense. I know that FB doesn’t really negotiate new grad offers.

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Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

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Umd in state vs full pay at a top 5 cs school which would you choose ?

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Anonymous wrote:Umd in state vs full pay at a top 5 cs school which would you choose ?

Full pay top 5 CS school. It sounds like an amazing experience and arguably it is healthy to get away from home/out of state.

But what is interesting to me is how many public schools are in the top half of this list.

So many of these private schools (University of Rochester, Case Western, etc.) are ranked lower in this list than public schools (University of Wisconsin, Washington, Minnesota) and they cost more and are more difficult to get into. Why pay more and work harder in high school to get into a school that isn't ranked as high? Are the dorms really that much nicer? The food better? Maybe the connections are netter and more likely to get a great job? I'm curious how these schools compare for salary for CS grads 5 years post graduation. Maybe that's the draw?

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Anonymous wrote:Umd in state vs full pay at a top 5 cs school which would you choose ?

My kid chose top 5. I would not have. They are happy where they are but would likely have been at UMD too.

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I think you get a different experience at a place like MIT versus a place like UMD. At MIT you are surrounded by top thinkers in the field both the students and the professors. The opportunities to do research or to get internships at top companies fall in your lap. These opportunities exist at UMD, but the student has to compete more vigorously to get them. Also at MIT it’s much easier to get into the classes you want as compared to UMD. So everything is possible but it’s much more of a struggle.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any top 100 CS school is fine if you want to get any job.

If a student wants to get the top jobs, then yes the school matters because otherwise, the student isn't getting recruited out of college for internships and jobs, and the first job carries over to the later jobs.

That's simply how it is. CS is less prestige-focused than finance and business. However, stop acting like a student from a relatively unknown school has the same job opportunities as a student from CMU or Berkeley.

Even after getting the job, the salary compensation is different for students recruited from top schools vs. those from the rest. Tech companies fight for top talent and they use top schools as a proxy.

This "school you go to doesn't matter" schtick is tiring. Yes, if you simply want a paper with a Bachelors written on it perhaps. Or you want a simple life and don't mind earning less. But otherwise, it matters so please stop lying to the parents of prospective students.

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

To the top poster quoted above: You’re a dope. Top 100 ranked CS schools are great.

DP here, Can you point out to me where he said they weren’t? And why the name calling? You know what they say about name calling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umd in state vs full pay at a top 5 cs school which would you choose ?

Full pay top 5 CS school. It sounds like an amazing experience and arguably it is healthy to get away from home/out of state.

But what is interesting to me is how many public schools are in the top half of this list.

So many of these private schools (University of Rochester, Case Western, etc.) are ranked lower in this list than public schools (University of Wisconsin, Washington, Minnesota) and they cost more and are more difficult to get into. Why pay more and work harder in high school to get into a school that isn't ranked as high? Are the dorms really that much nicer? The food better? Maybe the connections are netter and more likely to get a great job? I'm curious how these schools compare for salary for CS grads 5 years post graduation. Maybe that's the draw?

My kid got into CS at UIUC, but turned it down for UCLA. I was pretty upset. Oh well. He put a higher value on location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umd in state vs full pay at a top 5 cs school which would you choose ?

Full pay top 5 CS school. It sounds like an amazing experience and arguably it is healthy to get away from home/out of state.

But what is interesting to me is how many public schools are in the top half of this list.

So many of these private schools (University of Rochester, Case Western, etc.) are ranked lower in this list than public schools (University of Wisconsin, Washington, Minnesota) and they cost more and are more difficult to get into. Why pay more and work harder in high school to get into a school that isn't ranked as high? Are the dorms really that much nicer? The food better? Maybe the connections are netter and more likely to get a great job? I'm curious how these schools compare for salary for CS grads 5 years post graduation. Maybe that's the draw?

My kid got into CS at UIUC, but turned it down for UCLA. I was pretty upset. Oh well. He put a higher value on location.

Smart kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you get a different experience at a place like MIT versus a place like UMD. At MIT you are surrounded by top thinkers in the field both the students and the professors. The opportunities to do research or to get internships at top companies fall in your lap. These opportunities exist at UMD, but the student has to compete more vigorously to get them. Also at MIT it’s much easier to get into the classes you want as compared to UMD. So everything is possible but it’s much more of a struggle.

Agree, my kid is in CMU, he said his classmates are very intelligent, incredibly smart & hard workers. The first semester was tough for him, but he had no regret to choose CMU

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, my DD just graduated in computer science from Emory University which is ranked 71in your list and she got offers from Amazon, Google and a few other companies for top salaries. If you are a good student,you will do well. But she did send out 150 resumes.

+1

My DD just graduated from VT in CS after spending two years at NVCC. She got an offer from Amazon in Northern Virginia for a salary of 125k/yr. DD is certified in AWS while finishing up her undergraduate degree at VT.

People are talking about 300k+ package (base+bonus+RSU), even 400k from FAANG+ for MIT fresh graduates this year.

FAANG isn't 400k (unless you could 4 years of RSU as one). FAANG caps out around 230k a year tops (maybe 320k with bonus).

Friend's son graduated from MIT and got an offer from Jane Street, total $400k package.

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I went to Carnegie Mellon undergrad, and I can't even begin to comprehend it being that far up. I find this baffling.