40% of math curriculum was skipped this year

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Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.
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Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.


Not everyone is going to college for gender studies. Kids doing STEM actually need math. And I hate to have to tell you this, but the best of the best in MoCo aren't competing with the dregs of MoCo. They are competing with the best of the best around the globe. And most of those kids had a full school year.
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Not everyone is going to college for gender studies. Kids doing STEM actually need math. And I hate to have to tell you this, but the best of the best in MoCo aren't competing with the dregs of MoCo. They are competing with the best of the best around the globe. And most of those kids had a full school year.


Specifically, they need to have taken the classes and gotten good grades.

Also, the "dregs of MoCo" stock your grocery shelves, cook and serve your food at restaurants, fix your plumbing, and care for your children and elderly relatives - which likely provides a lot more value to society than whatever you do. Plus, given your attitude, they probably spit in your coffee.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.


Not everyone is going to college for gender studies. Kids doing STEM actually need math. And I hate to have to tell you this, but the best of the best in MoCo aren't competing with the dregs of MoCo. They are competing with the best of the best around the globe. And most of those kids had a full school year.


DP and I agree

I know it feels better to say that the deficiencies in Math instruction this year are NBD. But I was a STEM major in college and the biggest reason people dropped out of Engineering and Science programs were often the difficulty of the math classes as you get farther along.

Math definitely matters if you want a STEM career.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.


Not everyone is going to college for gender studies. Kids doing STEM actually need math. And I hate to have to tell you this, but the best of the best in MoCo aren't competing with the dregs of MoCo. They are competing with the best of the best around the globe. And most of those kids had a full school year.


I have an advanced engineering degree. I’m well aware of the important of mathematics. I can also the recognize true learning loss vs parental hysteria which most of this board is. Your kid will learn what they missed and still catch up to where they need to be. STEM kids understand this better than you do.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.


Not everyone is going to college for gender studies. Kids doing STEM actually need math. And I hate to have to tell you this, but the best of the best in MoCo aren't competing with the dregs of MoCo. They are competing with the best of the best around the globe. And most of those kids had a full school year.


I have an advanced engineering degree. I’m well aware of the important of mathematics. I can also the recognize true learning loss vs parental hysteria which most of this board is. Your kid will learn what they missed and still catch up to where they need to be. STEM kids understand this better than you do.


Far too rational and reasonable for DCUM! Back to the hysteria and blaming other ethnic groups and teacher's unions
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Anonymous wrote:Dare I ask what CRT is?


This kind of racist garbage: https://twitter.com/marya_hay/status/1230546821346471939?s=20

Hey! You're back with your obsession over this tweet.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank the complaining parents who said there as too much work and thanks the parents who don't require their kids to log on and do their work.


Nope! It is called half the instructional time.


The omissions were approved prior to the start of the year and has nothing to do with “complaining” parents.


Omitted for equity.


For the sake of equity to the deliberately obtuse nitwits who can't read I will quote you what was said "The elementary mathematics curriculum is aligned to the Maryland College and Career-Ready
Standards (Common Core State Standards). Content selected during the pandemic-impacted school years are prioritized based on recommendations from the Maryland State Department of
Education
"

So blame the pandemic.


Doesn't seem to be any notieable impact at our school. My 5th grader is in compacted 5/6 and is now finishing up module 4 of 6th grade math.


Yes and the reason they've been able to get there is because they cut out some of the content from the previous modules! Do people just like to bury their heads in the sand to feel better? Even after MCPS provides documentation of the content that was omitted.


Each unit builds on the previous. If they're doing OK in the current, they probably didn't miss much from the previous ones.

Again, that's why the modules were strategically removed, rather than going straight through and cutting off the end of the year. They took out what wasn't as crucial to the overall pathway, or would be covered again in the next level.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.


Talk about being hysterical lol. didn't say they were going to "fail for the rest of their life" dumbass. I said they will have lower earnings, which is what happens to children whose education has been interrupted.

Why do you care to send your children to school if you literally think education is worthless and losing half a year makes no difference?
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To all the parents freaking out over the math learning loss - what are you doing about it? How are you supplementing nath for your kids if you are concerned?
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Anonymous wrote:To all the parents freaking out over the math learning loss - what are you doing about it? How are you supplementing nath for your kids if you are concerned?


Yeah, why does this even matter? We only spend $3 billion per year on schools so who GAF? It's not like there aren't other things we could use that money for, this past year has been so great for everybody.
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Anonymous wrote:To all the parents freaking out over the math learning loss - what are you doing about it? How are you supplementing nath for your kids if you are concerned?


My 3rd grader isn’t behind but definitely would be if we didn’t supplement. He has enrichment tutoring sessions from an MCPS teacher (covering ELA and math), has completed 3rd grade math in Khan academy and has begin 4th grade, does all the Eureka problem sets/homework/sprints that his class skips, does a few online math games (like Prodigy), and has now mastered the multiplication and division facts to 13*13. His teacher is doing the best she can, but with 20% of teaching time removed, she can only do so much. The kids who aren’t supplementing are definitely falling behind.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet a few take calculus my calculus and ap stat in senior year


Then, they are already “ahead”. Hard to declare there’s learning loss in courses that the majority of students will never take in HS or college.

NO. there is "learning loss" if the curriculum that was planned to be covered by end of school year, and has been in previous years, was not able to be fully covered, especially if 40 percent was not covered. These kids who are taking the class should get the full curriculum just as a less able learner should, if they are in Geometry in Junior year for example.
How can one accurately say they took the class if they only covered a bit more than half of the content?!


Newsflash: this isn’t a normal school year.


Learning loss is real and has costs. A child that would have gotten a full year of calculus is worse off than she otherwise would have been. Studies show this will impact their earnings long term. Education isn't there to make us feel good - it has real value.


I’m so tired of you acting like your child is going to fail for the rest of their life because they only got the majority of calculus taught to them during a global pandemic. Trust me, they’ll be fine unless they’ve inherited your negative hysteria.


Talk about being hysterical lol. didn't say they were going to "fail for the rest of their life" dumbass. I said they will have lower earnings, which is what happens to children whose education has been interrupted.

Why do you care to send your children to school if you literally think education is worthless and losing half a year makes no difference?


It's so sad people like you can only see in black and white. Just because I'm not frightened over the fact my kid got the majority of the math lessons they were supposed to do this year, all of a sudden, you automatically assume I think education is worthless? There's grey area. Only truly "dumbass" people see this in terms of absolutes. I'm also a reasonable human being who realizes we are in a unique situation here (global pandemic and all) and I'm not concerned with my child catching up on anything they might have missed. I actually checked the "omitted' content and it's either stuff they already have touched on or will be covered and reviewed again in other lessons. Most of the cut content wasn't crucial to mastery of the subject. Also, it's not sweat off my brow to help facilitate their learning and supplement. (Basic things parents should be doing in a normal year regardless of what school district they are in.) I have more faith in your kid catching up and earning what they are worth,more than it seems you do. Hope they have support elsewhere in their actual life.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dare I ask what CRT is?


This kind of racist garbage: https://twitter.com/marya_hay/status/1230546821346471939?s=20

Hey! You're back with your obsession over this tweet.


Everyone should be concerned that MCPS is promoting this kind of racism.
Anonymous
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Not everyone is going to college for gender studies. Kids doing STEM actually need math. And I hate to have to tell you this, but the best of the best in MoCo aren't competing with the dregs of MoCo. They are competing with the best of the best around the globe. And most of those kids had a full school year.


Specifically, they need to have taken the classes and gotten good grades.

Also, the "dregs of MoCo" stock your grocery shelves, cook and serve your food at restaurants, fix your plumbing, and care for your children and elderly relatives - which likely provides a lot more value to society than whatever you do. Plus, given your attitude, they probably spit in your coffee.


Thank you for helping make my poijnt. The people doing all of those things you listed need math even less than someone studying victimology in college.
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