My predcition and analysis: a Red Wave in Maryland in 2022. (Long post)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pipe dream.

R's had a chance to retain governorship if Rutherford decided to run, but he declined. He has name recognition. People like Schulz do not.

At the senator/representative level, a lot of voters don't care and just vote for whoever has a (D) next to their name.

At MoCo level, Blair is the best chance. I think you may be right on that one.

Also remember that the "woke liberal" types votes a lot. Most people don't, or they do but dont' follow politics closely. People bringing up little things like Hogan voting for Reagan -- the majority of voters have no idea about this, and probably don't care.

It's this apathy why school board races never see much upheaval. Too many voters don't know or care. They just vote for the incumbent.

Really, what makes you say this? I'm not challenging just curious. All I've heard about 'woke liberal' voting patterns is how the predictured surge of progressive Bernie Bros failed to show up at the polls in primary season.

I think they call it the "Takoma Park Triangle" or somethign like that. So much of MoCo politics is decided by the people living in Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Look at all the at-large Council members -- all from that area. Same with our County Exec. Same with our House member (Raskin). The residents there get heavily involved in local politics, and they vote too.

There was an effort on the last ballot (Nine Districts MoCo) to get rid of at-large districts in the county council, and instead have each seat be for a particular area . It would ensure the growing areas of the county (upcounty, like Clarskburg and Germantown) get fair representation. Well the Council didn't like that, so they added their own ballot question to instead add more seats (district-based) but keep their at-large seats too. Then, since they control the ballot they put their question before the Nine Districts question, even though Nine Districts submitted first. I doubt the Council would have done anything if not for Nine Districts raising the issue and actually getting it on the ballot.

I guess on the plus side, upcounty _will_ get more representation, but at-large seats will still remain in the Takoma Park Triangle.

Nothing will change in Montgomery County. This "triangle" controls everything that happens. Nine Districts is a perfect example. When it started to gain traction, they called out the reinforcements and got lots of that area supporters to go against it.

As long as you live in Montgomery County, this is how it will be. You can either accept it or move. We are going to move because we are not happy with how things to continue to go in MoCo. It is too bad because they area has a lot to offer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pipe dream.

R's had a chance to retain governorship if Rutherford decided to run, but he declined. He has name recognition. People like Schulz do not.

At the senator/representative level, a lot of voters don't care and just vote for whoever has a (D) next to their name.

At MoCo level, Blair is the best chance. I think you may be right on that one.

Also remember that the "woke liberal" types votes a lot. Most people don't, or they do but dont' follow politics closely. People bringing up little things like Hogan voting for Reagan -- the majority of voters have no idea about this, and probably don't care.

It's this apathy why school board races never see much upheaval. Too many voters don't know or care. They just vote for the incumbent.

Really, what makes you say this? I'm not challenging just curious. All I've heard about 'woke liberal' voting patterns is how the predictured surge of progressive Bernie Bros failed to show up at the polls in primary season.

I think they call it the "Takoma Park Triangle" or somethign like that. So much of MoCo politics is decided by the people living in Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Look at all the at-large Council members -- all from that area. Same with our County Exec. Same with our House member (Raskin). The residents there get heavily involved in local politics, and they vote too.

There was an effort on the last ballot (Nine Districts MoCo) to get rid of at-large districts in the county council, and instead have each seat be for a particular area . It would ensure the growing areas of the county (upcounty, like Clarskburg and Germantown) get fair representation. Well the Council didn't like that, so they added their own ballot question to instead add more seats (district-based) but keep their at-large seats too. Then, since they control the ballot they put their question before the Nine Districts question, even though Nine Districts submitted first. I doubt the Council would have done anything if not for Nine Districts raising the issue and actually getting it on the ballot.

I guess on the plus side, upcounty _will_ get more representation, but at-large seats will still remain in the Takoma Park Triangle.

Nothing will change in Montgomery County. This "triangle" controls everything that happens. Nine Districts is a perfect example. When it started to gain traction, they called out the reinforcements and got lots of that area supporters to go against it.

As long as you live in Montgomery County, this is how it will be. You can either accept it or move. We are going to move because we are not happy with how things to continue to go in MoCo. It is too bad because they area has a lot to offer.

I'm PP and I think there is still hope. Elrich has messed up so badly that I thikn Blair stands a very strong chance, and he seems reasonable. Then on the council we have a few reasonable ones, in particular Friedson who is an expert on fiscal issues and asks good questions like why the Council is wasting time voting on a toothless resolution about some international issue (like pledging support for some democracy movement in some other country..)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pipe dream.

R's had a chance to retain governorship if Rutherford decided to run, but he declined. He has name recognition. People like Schulz do not.

At the senator/representative level, a lot of voters don't care and just vote for whoever has a (D) next to their name.

At MoCo level, Blair is the best chance. I think you may be right on that one.

Also remember that the "woke liberal" types votes a lot. Most people don't, or they do but dont' follow politics closely. People bringing up little things like Hogan voting for Reagan -- the majority of voters have no idea about this, and probably don't care.

It's this apathy why school board races never see much upheaval. Too many voters don't know or care. They just vote for the incumbent.

Really, what makes you say this? I'm not challenging just curious. All I've heard about 'woke liberal' voting patterns is how the predictured surge of progressive Bernie Bros failed to show up at the polls in primary season.

I think they call it the "Takoma Park Triangle" or somethign like that. So much of MoCo politics is decided by the people living in Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Look at all the at-large Council members -- all from that area. Same with our County Exec. Same with our House member (Raskin). The residents there get heavily involved in local politics, and they vote too.

There was an effort on the last ballot (Nine Districts MoCo) to get rid of at-large districts in the county council, and instead have each seat be for a particular area . It would ensure the growing areas of the county (upcounty, like Clarskburg and Germantown) get fair representation. Well the Council didn't like that, so they added their own ballot question to instead add more seats (district-based) but keep their at-large seats too. Then, since they control the ballot they put their question before the Nine Districts question, even though Nine Districts submitted first. I doubt the Council would have done anything if not for Nine Districts raising the issue and actually getting it on the ballot.

I guess on the plus side, upcounty _will_ get more representation, but at-large seats will still remain in the Takoma Park Triangle.

Nothing will change in Montgomery County. This "triangle" controls everything that happens. Nine Districts is a perfect example. When it started to gain traction, they called out the reinforcements and got lots of that area supporters to go against it.

As long as you live in Montgomery County, this is how it will be. You can either accept it or move. We are going to move because we are not happy with how things to continue to go in MoCo. It is too bad because they area has a lot to offer.

What bothers me is that when people point out these obvious facts about who controls county government, they get called conspiracy theorists.

[Anonymous]

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Nothing will change in Montgomery County. This "triangle" controls everything that happens. Nine Districts is a perfect example. When it started to gain traction, they called out the reinforcements and got lots of that area supporters to go against it.

As long as you live in Montgomery County, this is how it will be. You can either accept it or move. We are going to move because we are not happy with how things to continue to go in MoCo. It is too bad because they area has a lot to offer.

You're complaining that the majority of voters don't vote the way you want them to. Which is true. Now, the reason the majority of voters don't vote the way you want them to, is because they don't like what you're peddling. If you can't accept that, then everybody will be happier if you move somewhere else (except possibly the people in the place you're moving to, depending on where that is).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know that in our house, we will be voting for the most conservative D's in the primaries, and straight R on the state level. Will keep straight-D for national (Congress, Senate). Our experiences with (1) the school opening debacle, and, (2) the consistent, unending drumbeat on equity above everything else have made it very clear that MoCo and MD governments need checks. We have been particularly disappointed with Elrich, and several County Council members.

Is it the constant talk of equity itself that bothers you? Or is it the radical way in which the elected officials want to reach that equity? I don't mean that in any type of judgmental way. I'm trying to figure how far removed I am from the reality of most of the county. (I want equity, but want rational policy changes, not revolutionary ones).

A combination of those two things. Language matters. Equality and equity are two different things. Equality (as in all men are created equal) means everyone gets a fair shot and equal treatment; equity means everyone has the same stuff. We are all for government to be enforcers of equality, but we get uncomfortable when the objective function of government shifts to equity. Equity as an objective is fine when it comes to wealth distribution (within reason), but goes way too far when the government starts picking winners and losers based on skin color and the absurd, pseudo-scientific concept of ethnicity. The related concept of antiracism states that any inequity *must* be due to racism, and if you disagree, you are a racist / white supremacist. While Elrich et al haven't stated those objectives plainly, it's clearly driving policy, and it's getting worse year-over-year. This has infected the schools, public and private, and well-meaning white liberals simply accept these tenets without question, probably due to some combination of self-loathing and virtue signaling.

I agree. Focus should be more on equality, than equity. Republican tribe has complained for decades about unions, particularly unions representing govt workers. The tribe's complaints are basically why should those workers get those benefits. The response, of course, should be that why are more workers not getting those benefits. Dems fail to flip the argument back on the tribe. On other side, the silly TP crowd seems more focused on taking whatever benefits the "rich" have away from them. Lets destroy SFH neighborhoods on equity grounds. The better response is to spend real money beefing up schools (both in terms of physical plants and staffing), libraries, community centers, infrastructure, parks, etc in poorer neighborhoods, combined with housing incentives. I guess the silly crowd is against gentrification but for upzoning. Do not change poorer neighborhoods, but change wealthier ones. Better answer is to improve the conditions of poorer neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:569 words, including 5 uses (0.8%) of "woke".

I think I'll look for my reliable political analysis elsewhere.

Seriously. Is this you, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My gut says that the insufferable wokesters in Takoma Park .......

Blah blah blah blah blah

Social Justice Woke delegation.

All you need to know about this post is that the poster is a wokeness whiner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was this written by an MD GOP high school intern?

Love this.

[Anonymous]

I am one of the woke leftists who will vote for Blair over Elrich handling of the school closures issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pipe dream.

R's had a chance to retain governorship if Rutherford decided to run, but he declined. He has name recognition. People like Schulz do not.

At the senator/representative level, a lot of voters don't care and just vote for whoever has a (D) next to their name.

At MoCo level, Blair is the best chance. I think you may be right on that one.

Also remember that the "woke liberal" types votes a lot. Most people don't, or they do but dont' follow politics closely. People bringing up little things like Hogan voting for Reagan -- the majority of voters have no idea about this, and probably don't care.

It's this apathy why school board races never see much upheaval. Too many voters don't know or care. They just vote for the incumbent.

Really, what makes you say this? I'm not challenging just curious. All I've heard about 'woke liberal' voting patterns is how the predictured surge of progressive Bernie Bros failed to show up at the polls in primary season.

I think they call it the "Takoma Park Triangle" or somethign like that. So much of MoCo politics is decided by the people living in Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Look at all the at-large Council members -- all from that area. Same with our County Exec. Same with our House member (Raskin). The residents there get heavily involved in local politics, and they vote too.

There was an effort on the last ballot (Nine Districts MoCo) to get rid of at-large districts in the county council, and instead have each seat be for a particular area . It would ensure the growing areas of the county (upcounty, like Clarskburg and Germantown) get fair representation. Well the Council didn't like that, so they added their own ballot question to instead add more seats (district-based) but keep their at-large seats too. Then, since they control the ballot they put their question before the Nine Districts question, even though Nine Districts submitted first. I doubt the Council would have done anything if not for Nine Districts raising the issue and actually getting it on the ballot.

I guess on the plus side, upcounty _will_ get more representation, but at-large seats will still remain in the Takoma Park Triangle.

Nothing will change in Montgomery County. This "triangle" controls everything that happens. Nine Districts is a perfect example. When it started to gain traction, they called out the reinforcements and got lots of that area supporters to go against it.

As long as you live in Montgomery County, this is how it will be. You can either accept it or move. We are going to move because we are not happy with how things to continue to go in MoCo. It is too bad because they area has a lot to offer.

I'm PP and I think there is still hope. Elrich has messed up so badly that I thikn Blair stands a very strong chance, and he seems reasonable. Then on the council we have a few reasonable ones, in particular Friedson who is an expert on fiscal issues and asks good questions like why the Council is wasting time voting on a toothless resolution about some international issue (like pledging support for some democracy movement in some other country..)

Friedson is great. But I'm not sure Blair alone can stand up to some of the craziness that comes out of Council.

[Anonymous]

Yep. Pandemic has made me a republican. Used to be super liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pipe dream.

R's had a chance to retain governorship if Rutherford decided to run, but he declined. He has name recognition. People like Schulz do not.

At the senator/representative level, a lot of voters don't care and just vote for whoever has a (D) next to their name.

At MoCo level, Blair is the best chance. I think you may be right on that one.

Also remember that the "woke liberal" types votes a lot. Most people don't, or they do but dont' follow politics closely. People bringing up little things like Hogan voting for Reagan -- the majority of voters have no idea about this, and probably don't care.

It's this apathy why school board races never see much upheaval. Too many voters don't know or care. They just vote for the incumbent.

Really, what makes you say this? I'm not challenging just curious. All I've heard about 'woke liberal' voting patterns is how the predictured surge of progressive Bernie Bros failed to show up at the polls in primary season.

I think they call it the "Takoma Park Triangle" or somethign like that. So much of MoCo politics is decided by the people living in Takoma Park and Silver Spring. Look at all the at-large Council members -- all from that area. Same with our County Exec. Same with our House member (Raskin). The residents there get heavily involved in local politics, and they vote too.

There was an effort on the last ballot (Nine Districts MoCo) to get rid of at-large districts in the county council, and instead have each seat be for a particular area . It would ensure the growing areas of the county (upcounty, like Clarskburg and Germantown) get fair representation. Well the Council didn't like that, so they added their own ballot question to instead add more seats (district-based) but keep their at-large seats too. Then, since they control the ballot they put their question before the Nine Districts question, even though Nine Districts submitted first. I doubt the Council would have done anything if not for Nine Districts raising the issue and actually getting it on the ballot.

I guess on the plus side, upcounty _will_ get more representation, but at-large seats will still remain in the Takoma Park Triangle.

Nothing will change in Montgomery County. This "triangle" controls everything that happens. Nine Districts is a perfect example. When it started to gain traction, they called out the reinforcements and got lots of that area supporters to go against it.

As long as you live in Montgomery County, this is how it will be. You can either accept it or move. We are going to move because we are not happy with how things to continue to go in MoCo. It is too bad because they area has a lot to offer.

I'm PP and I think there is still hope. Elrich has messed up so badly that I thikn Blair stands a very strong chance, and he seems reasonable. Then on the council we have a few reasonable ones, in particular Friedson who is an expert on fiscal issues and asks good questions like why the Council is wasting time voting on a toothless resolution about some international issue (like pledging support for some democracy movement in some other country..)

Friedson is great. But I'm not sure Blair alone can stand up to some of the craziness that comes out of Council.

The fact that people on twitter call Friedson a "DINO" is both insane, and shows you just how far left moco politics has veered. He would be a liberal in any normal place, he just has some sense of fiscal sanity and restraint.

[Anonymous]

Md will never allow Republican Gov in again after this. We were lucky to have a Dem legislative body. . A very influential and hard working one at that.

[Anonymous]

The OP would be happier in Hagerstown.

[Anonymous]

No Repbulican will be elected ever again.

Let's see Don the Con stole 519 million $ off of tax payers in office.

Matt Gaetz raped a 17 year old

Josh Duggar child porn.

PA only cases of cheating in the election Republicans voting as dead people.

Yep, never ever again vote for Repbulicans. Party of death, liars, cheaters, scammers and tried to over throw the government.

Hogan is toast. Any other Republicans are toast in MD they will lose.

Q and trumpies we are going to vote every single one out.