VA Budget Salary Increases for Teachers

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Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

+1

So many teachers are busting their a$$ every day.

Most people don’t get paid based off of how hard they work, but rather on the outcome. Teachers may be working harder than ever but students are still learning less and academic achievement is down across the board.

Teachers can't control natural disasters.

Pay for performance - many performed extraordinarily well in an extreme situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

+1

So many teachers are busting their a$$ every day.

As a parent, I can see that from my kids' teachers. I think they deserve generous compensation for their tireless work.

As a political constituent, I'd like Richmond to trade giving teachers a generous raise for tying state level school funding to being creative and getting kids in school 5 days a week (as long as they don't have a medical necessity for otherwise - if it's not medical necessity families are welcome to look into a private virtual option). I think the school board and superintendent in my district have failed us utterly and need the power of the purse used against them.

Oh, and no taking away Right to Work either.

That doesn't even make sense. Teachers won't have any ability to set school schedules. ????

No, but they could move to a neighboring school district with better pay and better administrators.

Or we can make our communities (and schools) safe *and* give teachers raises. Then we get the good teachers. Capisce?

This fall, all adults (not just teachers) and a number of HS will be vaccinated.

Anything less than 5 day school is worth moving. As a parent or a teacher.

People are mostly concerned because FCPS (along with other districts around the country) have already said they will offer a "highly synchronous" virtual option. Unless that option is centralized, that means some sort of concurrent. While that could theoretically be 5 days a week, teachers across the country have indicated that concurrent is substantially harder than traditional face-to-face instruction. This year districts gave them a planning day to help handle that. It'll be more challenging with the 180 days of school/990 hours of instruction thing to prove that planning/asynch day meets the hours requirement (I think), but I'm sure they can find a way.

Plus there's the distancing guidelines. Unless CDC eliminates them, mitigation-conscious districts won't fill classrooms (whether you think they should or no). Even if they only have a suggestion "where possible," it isn't happening. Right now 3' is considered acceptable and 6' the gold standard, and FCPS has said they won't do less than 6'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

+1

So many teachers are busting their a$$ every day.

As a parent, I can see that from my kids' teachers. I think they deserve generous compensation for their tireless work.

As a political constituent, I'd like Richmond to trade giving teachers a generous raise for tying state level school funding to being creative and getting kids in school 5 days a week (as long as they don't have a medical necessity for otherwise - if it's not medical necessity families are welcome to look into a private virtual option). I think the school board and superintendent in my district have failed us utterly and need the power of the purse used against them.

Oh, and no taking away Right to Work either.

That doesn't even make sense. Teachers won't have any ability to set school schedules. ????

No, but they could move to a neighboring school district with better pay and better administrators.

Or we can make our communities (and schools) safe *and* give teachers raises. Then we get the good teachers. Capisce?

This fall, all adults (not just teachers) and a number of HS will be vaccinated.

Anything less than 5 day school is worth moving. As a parent or a teacher.

Yes, IF that happens and community spread is way down then schools should be able to open to full capacity.

BUT TEACHERS CANNOT CONTROL THE VACCINE ROLLOUT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Individual teachers have zero control. OTOH, unions are exerting plenty.
https://www.the74million.org/article/analysis-a-national-teacher-strike-isnt-really-possible-but-with-unions-refusing-to-go-back-until-classrooms-are-safe-this-is-what-one-would-look-like/
https://www.educationnext.org/rolling-national-teacher-strike-is-why-schools-are-closed/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't get a raise this year/last year and I am spending SUBSTANTIALLY more in childcare with schools close. If I didn't get a raise and I am in person every day, then teachers shouldn't either.

Do you advocate for the opposite? For example, when you receive a raise so you say the teachers should get the same? It seldom seems to work that way. I can’t remember the last time someone stood in front of the school board and said, “I’m getting a 3% raise this year and a COL increase. Please give the teachers the same”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't get a raise this year/last year and I am spending SUBSTANTIALLY more in childcare with schools close. If I didn't get a raise and I am in person every day, then teachers shouldn't either.

Do you advocate for the opposite? For example, when you receive a raise so you say the teachers should get the same? It seldom seems to work that way. I can’t remember the last time someone stood in front of the school board and said, “I’m getting a 3% raise this year and a COL increase. Please give the teachers the same”.

I can't remember the last time I got a 3% raise and a COLA. It's been many years. A decade or two?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Individual teachers have zero control. OTOH, unions are exerting plenty.
https://www.the74million.org/article/analysis-a-national-teacher-strike-isnt-really-possible-but-with-unions-refusing-to-go-back-until-classrooms-are-safe-this-is-what-one-would-look-like/
https://www.educationnext.org/rolling-national-teacher-strike-is-why-schools-are-closed/

We don't really have teacher unions here so....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

We - the parents and community - didn't push to open schools in the fall because we recognized that this was a deadly pandemic and we weren't able to address openly schools safely. Our schools are crazy overcrowded. There were much bigger community issues - feeding kids.

Monday morning quarterback forgets what it was like in the fall.

We have vaccines now. And more kids are heading back to the buildings. See how that works? Make it safe, kids will go back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

+1

So many teachers are busting their a$$ every day.

Not my ES teacher at all.

[Anonymous]

The other issue is concurrent next fall will destroy the quality of education because it will again be all via google slides and not real school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

We - the parents and community - didn't push to open schools in the fall because we recognized that this was a deadly pandemic and we weren't able to address openly schools safely. Our schools are crazy overcrowded. There were much bigger community issues - feeding kids.

Monday morning quarterback forgets what it was like in the fall.

We have vaccines now. And more kids are heading back to the buildings. See how that works? Make it safe, kids will go back.

I pushed for kids to go back in August. I don’t forget what it was like in the fall - lower coronavirus numbers than now in fairfax county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its a tough economy and unemployment is high. Many, many people are in bad financial shape. For teachers to argue that they "deserve" COL increases AND raises would be pretty tone deaf EVEN IF schools were open. With schools closed, its insane.

They are open and more kids go back within the next few weeks.

They are not open at the moment and many kids won’t even start two whole days a week until March.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

We - the parents and community - didn't push to open schools in the fall because we recognized that this was a deadly pandemic and we weren't able to address openly schools safely. Our schools are crazy overcrowded. There were much bigger community issues - feeding kids.

Monday morning quarterback forgets what it was like in the fall.

We have vaccines now. And more kids are heading back to the buildings. See how that works? Make it safe, kids will go back.

Sixty percent of Fairfax students chose in-person last fall. How is that not pushing to reopen schools? Forty percent of Loudoun parents chose in-person. I never figured out APS, sorry.

You're forgetting that parents have wanted schools to reopen since August.