Nope. Some of the coaches who tested positive coach multiple teams. One team was told; the others were not or not until later. But again, that's the point of this whole thread. You didn't know about any of this, because there trying to sweep it under the rug. If you're at Pipeline, then you probably know that the team chat was disabled on the girls TeamSnaps since the beginning of the season. Big Brother much? |
I have nothing to do with Pipeline, but it it possible that the coaches who tested positive did not notify their teams because there were not close contacts on the team (i.e. coaches had not been within 6 feet of players for total of 15 minutes or more)? |
What is your major malfunction?!?!? TeamSnap chat was disabled because of two teams that had issues with parents, calling out other kids and parents and such. Had absolutely nothing to do with CoVid!?!?!? I'll admit, that's not exactly a good look but at least it's not trying to cover up CoVid. Please stop trying to start rumors. Please! |
So pipeline is like the Loudoun soccer of MD? In terms of ethics and morals. I do not know if they’re also thieves. |
Agreed. The point was not that the two were directly related but that this is part of the culture fo this organization |
You think obnoxious soccer parents are unique to Pipeline? Obviously would be worse if the coach allowed the problematic parents to continue posting. |
Pipeline parent. The culture is toxic but again for the 100th time, there is no covid coverup. The culture is also toxic at many other clubs so I am sure we could have the same conversation about many of the clubs in the DMV area. Youth soccer has gone off the rails. |
Agree on youth soccer going off the rails! I'm interested to know how the culture there is toxic. As a parent in the club can you give some actual examples? My DD was interested in playing there in the coming years as a couple of her friends have migrated. We have issues at our club but I would not say the problem is club wide. Usually it is an obnoxious parent/kid or two on a team here or there that act like complete idiots and create issues on a team that have to be addressed by club administration. Most get pissed by the club operators not dealing with the issue more effectively. |
I have a boy who has played for Pipeline for four years, most of his teammates have been with Pipeline same amount of time or longer. The atmosphere in his age group is far from toxic as can be seen by how few kids leave. He also played for another local club that was a total shitshow, and I believe to be behind most of these unfounded Pipeline rumors, because that’s the kind of people running that club. Pipeline also has much more consistency among its coaching staff than other local clubs, with very little change over the time we have been there. My other child also plays a club sport not soccer but has friends on Pipeline 2004 and 2005 teams. Her friends are happy with the club as well. I have been personally really happy with management of the club. They make improvements in response to parent criticisms from year to year. Every year, the facilities improve for all teams, not just the encl teams. In your shoes, I would talk to people you know irl about Pipeline, as there is a concerted effort by a rival club to start untrue rumors about them on dcum. |
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Depending on age group, every elite club has issues. Sometimes you have to club hop a few times before landing at the right spot.
1. If DC is motivated by the Coach and likes the coach, stay put. 2. If DC is likes his/her teammates, major bonus and even more reason to stay put. 3. The last thing any PP should worry about if the above is true, is parent and club politics. Obviously, each DC reacts different to each situation. |
Surprisingly - the parents are the most normal we have encountered. I wrote a bit about this in a previous pipeline hate thread that some crazy rival started. My son plays on the B level team for his age - it is where he should be. I do not argue that he deserves to be higher or lower. After several years with pipeline, it is clear that winning is the main goal, not developing players. We have been told, not inferred, but directly told by leadership and my child's coach that pipeline is a business and if a team is not winning, changes will be made which may include firing coaches, recruiting new kids (there is constant rolling tryouts), pulling kids from A teams to play, permanently benching kids, etc. There is no discussion about providing extra support for the kids that are struggling - that has to be done on your own time with your own private coaches. We have been told that we pay for our child to be in a winning club, development is only a small part of that. The issue is that this idea of youth soccer ruins kids' spirits. It is great when your child is on a winning team and is a star player, however, when your child is in the middle of the pack and constantly being told he can and will be replaced if he doesn't perform is ridiculous. It is about perspective and these kids are not going pro and don't need to win every single game. At the age my child is, he needs to develop his skills. If he isn't trying, bench him. If he has a bad attitude, bench him. If he truly isn't working out, drop him during next tryouts However, you have committed to my child for a period of one year and it is up to you to support that development, not replace him when he has a bad game or two. My son has constant anxiety that he will be dropped and comes back from every practice reiterating this - not because he is going to be dropped but this is drilled into them. That is toxicity of the culture. As much as pipeline wants to talk about developing kids, they will drop you like a hot potato and replace you with the new shiny kid, rather than put in any level of effort in developing that child. |
Well put across the board. I think this is something that should be limited to 3-4 top teams at top clubs in a given area. Beyond that, it should be substantially more about fun, development, social experience, and maturity. |
What age group and what do you mean by drop? Pipeline does usually have a third and at times fourth team. Often they will encourage players that are struggling at current level to practice/play with their own team as well as next team down to provide more touches and playing time for that player, and to build confidence. |
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every club has it's own 'toxic' nature. some are specific to coaches while others are somewhere between minimal and widespread. every parent and player only know what they know and usually place blind faith and trust in the coach and/or organization. everyone has observed an opposing coach acting like an ass and verbally abuse players and wondered how anyone enjoys playing on that team. but players and parents remain.
pipeline is unique from other clubs in that the toxicity stems from the top and is masked behind their mission statement and social media presence |
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