How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:Who goes to these prep classes?

- Highest performing exceptional students who have been working hard since elementary school
- Parents are both STEM educated, well off, immigrants who come from cultures that value education over all else.
- Can afford these classes either because HHI is high or because they live frugally and save for education.
- Kids who have all their lives socialized with kids who come to these classes. This amount of hard work (4-6 hours every day) is normal for them.

This is a highly self-selected group. 25% get in and 75% does not. Try getting your typical American kid to sit down and study for 6-8 hours each and every day during the whole summer break or during the pandemic. It will not happen.

This is not a replicable model because no average American kid is willing to put in this much time and hard work, no average American family wants to devote so much time, effort or energy into living frugally, helping their child study, and spending their life around their kids education.

Seriously, most of us could not handle a toilet paper shortage. We should leave this alone.

And all of that is fine, but it shouldn't help kids get into TJ. Or into AAP. Or into elite universities.

That level of obsession is not healthy for kids of that age. To extend the baseball metaphor, it's like being okay with steroids. People shouldn't have to risk their health and well-being in order to compete on a baseball diamond. Train, sure. Study, sure. But to that extent, and to require that much of a resource in order to do it? That's just wrong.

Kids should be able to have a life, discover what they enjoy, have friends, and still have just as good a chance to get into TJ as anyone else as long as they have the horsepower and desire to learn.

Of course, you are correct. So you should do all of that for your children. Why are you worried about the mental health of the children you don't care about? You do you, honey! Are you feeling superior that your kids are having "normal" life? Well, Bless your heart.

The worse that these parents are doing are sending their kids to study. They are not grooming them to take off their clothes and go on Instagram? Like Lori Loughlin? Or like Trump paying someone to take his SAT? These are hard working students. They are not aspiring to go to Liberty University and become pool boys.

Wow, talk about out of touch. I'm worried about the access to TJ of kids who should not have to put themselves through this nonsense in order to have a level shot at getting in.

TJ also shouldn't be a place where students feel they have to study 5-6 hours per day in order to keep up, but that's another conversation.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. The Varsity Blues scandal is bad. Everything about Trump is terrible. This Indian TJ prep scandal is bad, and it needs to be getting more attention. The fact that it's not technically cheating is an ENORMOUS flaw in the process.

There is no TJ prep scandal.

If this prep company got hold of the test (which I doubt) then call the FBI and find out who gave them the test. Else, STFU. Your privilege is showing. You only want White rich kids to have a chance and when Asian-Americans sacrifice their childhoods and work hard to climb the rungs of the education and career ladder you think that there is a scandal? Then you all say it is unhealthy? I find very few Asian American kids being derailed in their lives. If they are deeply unhappy because they are studying hard then tough luck! Their options are to not be successful and then be shot and murdered like Blacks or Latino by White people. I hope that the whole BLM and police brutality has shown Asian-American kids that this is not a country where you can by poor and have a life. The only way up is through hard work. You are not the children of Trump that you will be rich even when you are stupid.

Sometimes it feels like there are some groups of people who believe that there are no professions in between doctor/CEO and 7-Eleven cashier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who goes to these prep classes?

- Highest performing exceptional students who have been working hard since elementary school
- Parents are both STEM educated, well off, immigrants who come from cultures that value education over all else.
- Can afford these classes either because HHI is high or because they live frugally and save for education.
- Kids who have all their lives socialized with kids who come to these classes. This amount of hard work (4-6 hours every day) is normal for them.

This is a highly self-selected group. 25% get in and 75% does not. Try getting your typical American kid to sit down and study for 6-8 hours each and every day during the whole summer break or during the pandemic. It will not happen.

This is not a replicable model because no average American kid is willing to put in this much time and hard work, no average American family wants to devote so much time, effort or energy into living frugally, helping their child study, and spending their life around their kids education.

Seriously, most of us could not handle a toilet paper shortage. We should leave this alone.

And all of that is fine, but it shouldn't help kids get into TJ. Or into AAP. Or into elite universities.

That level of obsession is not healthy for kids of that age. To extend the baseball metaphor, it's like being okay with steroids. People shouldn't have to risk their health and well-being in order to compete on a baseball diamond. Train, sure. Study, sure. But to that extent, and to require that much of a resource in order to do it? That's just wrong.

Kids should be able to have a life, discover what they enjoy, have friends, and still have just as good a chance to get into TJ as anyone else as long as they have the horsepower and desire to learn.

Of course, you are correct. So you should do all of that for your children. Why are you worried about the mental health of the children you don't care about? You do you, honey! Are you feeling superior that your kids are having "normal" life? Well, Bless your heart.

The worse that these parents are doing are sending their kids to study. They are not grooming them to take off their clothes and go on Instagram? Like Lori Loughlin? Or like Trump paying someone to take his SAT? These are hard working students. They are not aspiring to go to Liberty University and become pool boys.

Wow, talk about out of touch. I'm worried about the access to TJ of kids who should not have to put themselves through this nonsense in order to have a level shot at getting in.

TJ also shouldn't be a place where students feel they have to study 5-6 hours per day in order to keep up, but that's another conversation.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. The Varsity Blues scandal is bad. Everything about Trump is terrible. This Indian TJ prep scandal is bad, and it needs to be getting more attention. The fact that it's not technically cheating is an ENORMOUS flaw in the process.

There is no TJ prep scandal.

If this prep company got hold of the test (which I doubt) then call the FBI and find out who gave them the test. Else, STFU. Your privilege is showing. You only want White rich kids to have a chance and when Asian-Americans sacrifice their childhoods and work hard to climb the rungs of the education and career ladder you think that there is a scandal? Then you all say it is unhealthy? I find very few Asian American kids being derailed in their lives. If they are deeply unhappy because they are studying hard then tough luck! Their options are to not be successful and then be shot and murdered like Blacks or Latino by White people. I hope that the whole BLM and police brutality has shown Asian-American kids that this is not a country where you can by poor and have a life. The only way up is through hard work. You are not the children of Trump that you will be rich even when you are stupid.

Two Asian American students in this year's junior class at TJ have committed suicide. Perhaps that is "very few" - fair enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who goes to these prep classes?

- Highest performing exceptional students who have been working hard since elementary school
- Parents are both STEM educated, well off, immigrants who come from cultures that value education over all else.
- Can afford these classes either because HHI is high or because they live frugally and save for education.
- Kids who have all their lives socialized with kids who come to these classes. This amount of hard work (4-6 hours every day) is normal for them.

This is a highly self-selected group. 25% get in and 75% does not. Try getting your typical American kid to sit down and study for 6-8 hours each and every day during the whole summer break or during the pandemic. It will not happen.

This is not a replicable model because no average American kid is willing to put in this much time and hard work, no average American family wants to devote so much time, effort or energy into living frugally, helping their child study, and spending their life around their kids education.

Seriously, most of us could not handle a toilet paper shortage. We should leave this alone.

And all of that is fine, but it shouldn't help kids get into TJ. Or into AAP. Or into elite universities.

That level of obsession is not healthy for kids of that age. To extend the baseball metaphor, it's like being okay with steroids. People shouldn't have to risk their health and well-being in order to compete on a baseball diamond. Train, sure. Study, sure. But to that extent, and to require that much of a resource in order to do it? That's just wrong.

Kids should be able to have a life, discover what they enjoy, have friends, and still have just as good a chance to get into TJ as anyone else as long as they have the horsepower and desire to learn.

Of course, you are correct. So you should do all of that for your children. Why are you worried about the mental health of the children you don't care about? You do you, honey! Are you feeling superior that your kids are having "normal" life? Well, Bless your heart.

The worse that these parents are doing are sending their kids to study. They are not grooming them to take off their clothes and go on Instagram? Like Lori Loughlin? Or like Trump paying someone to take his SAT? These are hard working students. They are not aspiring to go to Liberty University and become pool boys.

Wow, talk about out of touch. I'm worried about the access to TJ of kids who should not have to put themselves through this nonsense in order to have a level shot at getting in.

TJ also shouldn't be a place where students feel they have to study 5-6 hours per day in order to keep up, but that's another conversation.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. The Varsity Blues scandal is bad. Everything about Trump is terrible. This Indian TJ prep scandal is bad, and it needs to be getting more attention. The fact that it's not technically cheating is an ENORMOUS flaw in the process.

There is no TJ prep scandal.

If this prep company got hold of the test (which I doubt) then call the FBI and find out who gave them the test. Else, STFU. Your privilege is showing. You only want White rich kids to have a chance and when Asian-Americans sacrifice their childhoods and work hard to climb the rungs of the education and career ladder you think that there is a scandal? Then you all say it is unhealthy? I find very few Asian American kids being derailed in their lives. If they are deeply unhappy because they are studying hard then tough luck! Their options are to not be successful and then be shot and murdered like Blacks or Latino by White people. I hope that the whole BLM and police brutality has shown Asian-American kids that this is not a country where you can by poor and have a life. The only way up is through hard work. You are not the children of Trump that you will be rich even when you are stupid.

Two Asian American students in this year's junior class at TJ have committed suicide. Perhaps that is "very few" - fair enough.

Maybe they got sick of all the racial discrimination against Asian students in magnet school admissions and college admissions and having to study much harder than other groups for opportunities and having to deal with racists like this poster spamming about Asians prepping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who goes to these prep classes?

- Highest performing exceptional students who have been working hard since elementary school
- Parents are both STEM educated, well off, immigrants who come from cultures that value education over all else.
- Can afford these classes either because HHI is high or because they live frugally and save for education.
- Kids who have all their lives socialized with kids who come to these classes. This amount of hard work (4-6 hours every day) is normal for them.

This is a highly self-selected group. 25% get in and 75% does not. Try getting your typical American kid to sit down and study for 6-8 hours each and every day during the whole summer break or during the pandemic. It will not happen.

This is not a replicable model because no average American kid is willing to put in this much time and hard work, no average American family wants to devote so much time, effort or energy into living frugally, helping their child study, and spending their life around their kids education.

Seriously, most of us could not handle a toilet paper shortage. We should leave this alone.

And all of that is fine, but it shouldn't help kids get into TJ. Or into AAP. Or into elite universities.

That level of obsession is not healthy for kids of that age. To extend the baseball metaphor, it's like being okay with steroids. People shouldn't have to risk their health and well-being in order to compete on a baseball diamond. Train, sure. Study, sure. But to that extent, and to require that much of a resource in order to do it? That's just wrong.

Kids should be able to have a life, discover what they enjoy, have friends, and still have just as good a chance to get into TJ as anyone else as long as they have the horsepower and desire to learn.

Of course, you are correct. So you should do all of that for your children. Why are you worried about the mental health of the children you don't care about? You do you, honey! Are you feeling superior that your kids are having "normal" life? Well, Bless your heart.

The worse that these parents are doing are sending their kids to study. They are not grooming them to take off their clothes and go on Instagram? Like Lori Loughlin? Or like Trump paying someone to take his SAT? These are hard working students. They are not aspiring to go to Liberty University and become pool boys.

Wow, talk about out of touch. I'm worried about the access to TJ of kids who should not have to put themselves through this nonsense in order to have a level shot at getting in.

TJ also shouldn't be a place where students feel they have to study 5-6 hours per day in order to keep up, but that's another conversation.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. The Varsity Blues scandal is bad. Everything about Trump is terrible. This Indian TJ prep scandal is bad, and it needs to be getting more attention. The fact that it's not technically cheating is an ENORMOUS flaw in the process.

There is no TJ prep scandal.

If this prep company got hold of the test (which I doubt) then call the FBI and find out who gave them the test. Else, STFU. Your privilege is showing. You only want White rich kids to have a chance and when Asian-Americans sacrifice their childhoods and work hard to climb the rungs of the education and career ladder you think that there is a scandal? Then you all say it is unhealthy? I find very few Asian American kids being derailed in their lives. If they are deeply unhappy because they are studying hard then tough luck! Their options are to not be successful and then be shot and murdered like Blacks or Latino by White people. I hope that the whole BLM and police brutality has shown Asian-American kids that this is not a country where you can by poor and have a life. The only way up is through hard work. You are not the children of Trump that you will be rich even when you are stupid.

Two Asian American students in this year's junior class at TJ have committed suicide. Perhaps that is "very few" - fair enough.

Maybe they got sick of all the racial discrimination against Asian students in magnet school admissions and college admissions and having to study much harder than other groups for opportunities and having to deal with racists like this poster spamming about Asians prepping.

Just dangerously and embarrassingly clueless in so, so many ways. I feel for these kids who have to grow up with this zero-sum mentality - a lot of TJ Vents makes a lot more sense when you read some of the desperate parents on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who goes to these prep classes?

- Highest performing exceptional students who have been working hard since elementary school
- Parents are both STEM educated, well off, immigrants who come from cultures that value education over all else.
- Can afford these classes either because HHI is high or because they live frugally and save for education.
- Kids who have all their lives socialized with kids who come to these classes. This amount of hard work (4-6 hours every day) is normal for them.

This is a highly self-selected group. 25% get in and 75% does not. Try getting your typical American kid to sit down and study for 6-8 hours each and every day during the whole summer break or during the pandemic. It will not happen.

This is not a replicable model because no average American kid is willing to put in this much time and hard work, no average American family wants to devote so much time, effort or energy into living frugally, helping their child study, and spending their life around their kids education.

Seriously, most of us could not handle a toilet paper shortage. We should leave this alone.

And all of that is fine, but it shouldn't help kids get into TJ. Or into AAP. Or into elite universities.

That level of obsession is not healthy for kids of that age. To extend the baseball metaphor, it's like being okay with steroids. People shouldn't have to risk their health and well-being in order to compete on a baseball diamond. Train, sure. Study, sure. But to that extent, and to require that much of a resource in order to do it? That's just wrong.

Kids should be able to have a life, discover what they enjoy, have friends, and still have just as good a chance to get into TJ as anyone else as long as they have the horsepower and desire to learn.

Of course, you are correct. So you should do all of that for your children. Why are you worried about the mental health of the children you don't care about? You do you, honey! Are you feeling superior that your kids are having "normal" life? Well, Bless your heart.

The worse that these parents are doing are sending their kids to study. They are not grooming them to take off their clothes and go on Instagram? Like Lori Loughlin? Or like Trump paying someone to take his SAT? These are hard working students. They are not aspiring to go to Liberty University and become pool boys.

Wow, talk about out of touch. I'm worried about the access to TJ of kids who should not have to put themselves through this nonsense in order to have a level shot at getting in.

TJ also shouldn't be a place where students feel they have to study 5-6 hours per day in order to keep up, but that's another conversation.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. The Varsity Blues scandal is bad. Everything about Trump is terrible. This Indian TJ prep scandal is bad, and it needs to be getting more attention. The fact that it's not technically cheating is an ENORMOUS flaw in the process.

There is no TJ prep scandal.

If this prep company got hold of the test (which I doubt) then call the FBI and find out who gave them the test. Else, STFU. Your privilege is showing. You only want White rich kids to have a chance and when Asian-Americans sacrifice their childhoods and work hard to climb the rungs of the education and career ladder you think that there is a scandal? Then you all say it is unhealthy? I find very few Asian American kids being derailed in their lives. If they are deeply unhappy because they are studying hard then tough luck! Their options are to not be successful and then be shot and murdered like Blacks or Latino by White people. I hope that the whole BLM and police brutality has shown Asian-American kids that this is not a country where you can by poor and have a life. The only way up is through hard work. You are not the children of Trump that you will be rich even when you are stupid.

tj student (2023) here. the kids gave curie the test question after they took the test. so if ur calling the fbi ur calling it on the kids who did it. no rule against it.

[Anonymous]

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tj student (2023) here. the kids gave curie the test question after they took the test. so if ur calling the fbi ur calling it on the kids who did it. no rule against it.

Actually, there are rules against sharing the test questions. If you are a TJ student, you should know this. The students signed a pledge when they took the test that they would not discuss the specific questions.

Curie Learning Center published the names of their 133 students that were admitted to TJ on August 17th.

If FCPS is serious about the academic integrity of TJ, they could investigate these 133 students. There were plenty of students in the semifinalist and/or wait list that potentially were denied admission if Curie was engaging in teaching children how to cheat on the admissions test.

[Anonymous]

Everything seems to be about “gaining an edge” and exploiting every possible angle with these TJHSST families. They absolutely suck all the fun out of high school with their grim zero-sum game mentality. It provides quite a window as to why applications from other students have been declining sharply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

tj student (2023) here. the kids gave curie the test question after they took the test. so if ur calling the fbi ur calling it on the kids who did it. no rule against it.

Actually, there are rules against sharing the test questions. If you are a TJ student, you should know this. The students signed a pledge when they took the test that they would not discuss the specific questions.

Curie Learning Center published the names of their 133 students that were admitted to TJ on August 17th.

If FCPS is serious about the academic integrity of TJ, they could investigate these 133 students. There were plenty of students in the semifinalist and/or wait list that potentially were denied admission if Curie was engaging in teaching children how to cheat on the admissions test.

it won't happen, but across the board expulsions would be hilarious - just think of the hours spent building the perfect college resume and now you're going to NVCC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything seems to be about “gaining an edge” and exploiting every possible angle with these TJHSST families. They absolutely suck all the fun out of high school with their grim zero-sum game mentality. It provides quite a window as to why applications from other students have been declining sharply.

THIS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything seems to be about “gaining an edge” and exploiting every possible angle with these TJHSST families. They absolutely suck all the fun out of high school with their grim zero-sum game mentality. It provides quite a window as to why applications from other students have been declining sharply.

Says the racist who cannot work hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything seems to be about “gaining an edge” and exploiting every possible angle with these TJHSST families. They absolutely suck all the fun out of high school with their grim zero-sum game mentality. It provides quite a window as to why applications from other students have been declining sharply.

THIS

Well, then you should be happy that your kids are not doing this and living the American dream. Feeling better?

[Anonymous]

No one needs parenting advice from racist privileged people who can not compete with hard work and intelligence.

Maybe keep your outrage for USPS closing and lynching of Black people. Kindly stop targeting a minority group that is teaching their kids to work hard and become contributes to the society.

Learn to love your own children and try and remove bitterness and envy fro. Your heart.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the county should change their tests every year?

[Anonymous]

Actually, White parents make other people take SATa for their children. I say, screw TJ. Who cares?

How about y'all try and compete with TJ students in SAT and ACT? That's administered by college board, right?

[Anonymous]

The jealousy is pouring out in buckets. Lol.

Your kids did not make it to TJ then you should be grateful. They would have surely fallen behind in TJ and not been able to handle the rigor.