You finding it difficult to work at home does not make you an essential worker. |
I was not aware daycare has been running at full/normal capacity for the last 5 months. |
Are our childcare statitstic at all comparable to Germany and Iceknd an Finland? Are they likely to have 3 or 4 kids in school at the same time? I Do the have a large number of the population that is under 5? Do these things matter? |
I am the immediate PP you quoted. Where exactly did I state that I was an essential worker??? Our daycare is operating safely. I hope and pray it stays that way. It was a VERY difficult decision for us, but we made it after multiple discussions with our pediatrician, who was fully supportive of the decision, particularly in regards to the impacts on the emotional health of our older daughter. |
| You'll be working from home anyway or need a babysiter anyway, once a single child in your kid's class tests positive or has enough suspected symptoms and everyone is forced into quarantine. |
Those are the numbers for the people who were tested. Most kids aren’t tested unless they’re symptomatic for something (might not be covid, but it’s something). With those numbers, I don’t believe for a second that the kids aren’t taking it home to parents, neighbors, extended family, etc. |
How odd. I'd die for my childrens' future. Why so selfish? |
NP. I'll bite. Because we have no one to take care of our very young kids. Grandparents are elderly. It's just DH and me. I have no idea what to do if we both get very sick at the same time, and I certainly dont want to orphan them. |
What posters like the person you’re responding to forget is that children will die and be disadvantaged by meeting schools closed. By almost any margin more children will suffer more greatly with schools closed than with them open. Not kids like yours or mine but abused and neglected kids 100%. Kids needs are in direct conflict with teacher needs right now. We need to be honest about this being the issue. Teachers are scared and have been effective at communicating their fear. They are at much higher risk than the kids themselves and this is just a truth we seem to not want to grapple with. No one wants to paint it as that kind of a choice but that’s what it is. As a society do we care more about kids or teachers? And relatedly, do we care about teachers more than we care about the economy at large. Do we care more about teachers or a generation of progress in someone’s equality in the workplace being wiped out? I’m not saying the answers up there are clear, but these are the questions. Posing it like a zero sum outcome is simply not reflective of reality and obfuscates the issue. Personally I think teaching is an essential service and they should be paid hazard pay. |
| /\ women’s equality not someone’s equality |
+1 They should also be able to choose to work from home. A lot of young teachers would prefer to be in the classroom, because ALL teachers realize it’s more effective than dl. But when the choice is inadequate distancing, masks that aren’t required or don’t stay on, parents sending sick kids to school? They should have a choice. |
+2 Although, frankly, I think a lot of the extreme fear I’ve heard many teachers express is unfounded. They’re not intubating COVID patients in an ICU with no PPE, FFS. The available data suggest that young kids, at least, don’t contract or transmit COVID the same way older kids and adults seem to. So, these younger kids and their teachers could probably go back safely with reasonable mitigation measures (masks, hand-washing, spacing, etc.). This article sums up how I feel (even though I’m not a nurse): https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/im-nurse-teachers-should-do-their-jobs-like-i-did/614902/ |
New poster here. That statement is in the paper introduction, where they give the rationale for doing the study. Their study is part of building that collection of data. Read the results section. Of course data is sparse on a novel type of coronavirus, but that is not this study's results. -scientist |
I don't think this is true. The data is largely inconclusive. Remember, most countries shutdown schools for a while, so we don't have enough info on this. Even Birx indicated as much. https://www.today.com/health/dr-deborah-birx-still-open-question-how-rapidly-children-under-t187702 July 24, 2020
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