HPV vaccine - did you get it for your son or daughter? If not, why?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most preventable form of cancer out there. It's unnecessary to get the vaccine early on.


Um, what does that mean? The vaccine is MOST effective if given prior to any sexual activity. You HAVE to get it early on. Many teams are sexually active, hate to break it to you. The virus is commonly transmitted - >50% of us have it.
If you have HPV, the cancer risk starts right then and there. I know 20 and 30 year olds who have died from cervical cancer.


You're right - HPV leaves the body naturally for most people. Most sexually active people get HPV at some point but it remains in the body for a small % of folks. That said, I worked in the HPV industry for years and the bottom line with this vaccine is: it doesn't cover all strains (esp the more virulent ones), there are potential side affects that we just don't have enough data on, and if your kid is not sexually active, you don't need it. For those folks that have HPV, regular HPV testing and paps catch it early on and it can be remediated. I am not anti-vaxxer - just b/c you don't completely support all vaccines 100% doesn't mean you are anti vaxxer.



From the National Cancer Institute: https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/infectious-agents/hpv-vaccine-fact-sheet#:~:text=All%20three%20vaccines%20prevent%20infection,of%20genital%20warts%20(3)

Three vaccines that prevent infection with disease-causing HPV types are licensed for use in the United States: Gardasil®, Gardasil® 9, and Cervarix®. All three vaccines prevent infection with HPV types 16 and 18, two high-risk HPVs that cause about 70% of cervical cancers and an even higher percentage of some of the other HPV-caused cancers (1, 2). Gardasil also prevents infection with HPV types 6 and 11, which cause 90% of genital warts (3). Gardasil 9 prevents infection with the same four HPV types plus five additional cancer-causing types (31, 33, 45, 52, and 58) that together account for 10 to 20% of cervical cancers.

Gardasil 9 is now the only HPV vaccine available for use in the United States. Cervarix and Gardasil are still used in other countries.

And yes, if you decide to vaccinate your child, it's best/ideal to do it prior to being sexual active.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I did. When my 12 yo DD went for her well visit, the doctors recommended it.

Honestly, I should have waited. There isn’t need for it at 12. Everyone is different, but I think closer to high school age makes sense.



There's a big advantage to doing it at 12, which is that it's only 2 shots. If you do it at 13 or after, you have to do three shots, spaced over 6 months. We did that (not by plan, because we just delayed and his well visit fell after his birthday), and it was a hassle to have to go back twice more. So since there's no downside to doing it earlier, saving the extra shot makes sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Got it for both my son and daughter. Males are carriers of HPV. I had a college friend who died of cervical cancer after she graduated/ married. Her husband remarried, second wife also died of cervical cancer. Vaccinating your daughter and son should substantially decrease the possibility of that occurring.


Sounds like he is killing his wives with it...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those that already had their kids get them, did they experience any side effects? Oldest is getting theirs in a couple weeks so I want to know what to expect. Thanks!


My three sons received the vaccine. No side effects. No complaints other than being annoyed that they had to wait for about 20 minutes in the doctor's office to make sure they didn't have any issues. They felt fine. I am glad I got them vaccinated.





That is the type of thing which gives pause to parents, don't you think?


My kids had to wait 30 minutes after they get EVERY vaccine. Not just this one. Jesus fing Christ.


WHAT?! NEVER. Neither me or my kids were ever asked to wait after vaccinations. Literally, vaccines administered by nurse after seen by doctor and then 'good to go'. What you describe is only routine for allergy shots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did. When my 12 yo DD went for her well visit, the doctors recommended it.

Honestly, I should have waited. There isn’t need for it at 12. Everyone is different, but I think closer to high school age makes sense.



There's a big advantage to doing it at 12, which is that it's only 2 shots. If you do it at 13 or after, you have to do three shots, spaced over 6 months. We did that (not by plan, because we just delayed and his well visit fell after his birthday), and it was a hassle to have to go back twice more. So since there's no downside to doing it earlier, saving the extra shot makes sense.

Exactly. Two dose series if complete by 14. 3 dose series if older.
Anonymous
Four kids, have gotten all vaccines on schedule, including HPV and yearly flu shots. Boys and girls. None of my kids have gotten the flu, polio, measles, mumps, chicken pox, diphtheria, pertussis, hepatitis B, rotavirus, or meningitis. Now they will be protected against common strains of HPV, too. Thank you, science!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most preventable form of cancer out there. It's unnecessary to get the vaccine early on.


Um, what does that mean? The vaccine is MOST effective if given prior to any sexual activity. You HAVE to get it early on. Many teams are sexually active, hate to break it to you. The virus is commonly transmitted - >50% of us have it.
If you have HPV, the cancer risk starts right then and there. I know 20 and 30 year olds who have died from cervical cancer.


You're right - HPV leaves the body naturally for most people. Most sexually active people get HPV at some point but it remains in the body for a small % of folks. That said, I worked in the HPV industry for years and the bottom line with this vaccine is: it doesn't cover all strains (esp the more virulent ones), there are potential side affects that we just don't have enough data on, and if your kid is not sexually active, you don't need it. For those folks that have HPV, regular HPV testing and paps catch it early on and it can be remediated. I am not anti-vaxxer - just b/c you don't completely support all vaccines 100% doesn't mean you are anti vaxxer.



This is flat out wrong. Were you mopping floors in the industry??? Stop spreading misinformation.

The HPV vaccine absolutely includes the high risk strains with HPV16, HPV18, and HPV45 at the top of the list. And of course kids should get the vaccine BEFORE they become sexually active. You think your 15 year old is going to come home and say "Mom, I almost started fooling around with Larlo today but I stopped so I can get my HPV vaccine first"???

Additionally there is a rise in head and neck cancers due to HPV, and there is currently no screening process like there is for cervical cancer. This means head and neck cancers aren't found until they are more advanced. To a PP - don't think your daughter is more safe because she is a lesbian.

https://www.cancer.gov/types/head-and-neck
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/headneck/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those that already had their kids get them, did they experience any side effects? Oldest is getting theirs in a couple weeks so I want to know what to expect. Thanks!


My three sons received the vaccine. No side effects. No complaints other than being annoyed that they had to wait for about 20 minutes in the doctor's office to make sure they didn't have any issues. They felt fine. I am glad I got them vaccinated.





That is the type of thing which gives pause to parents, don't you think?


DP. No because our pediatricians have always done that for every shot. Thank God because it turns out my younger kid has a reaction to the seasonal flu shot. Her arm ballooned up to the size of an orange and turned red. I would have panicked at home, but the staff recognized that she was breathing fine and in minimal discomfort. She still gets a flu shot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am not against this vaccine. Just questioning it as I know there was a lot of controversy and wondering why. Everyone needs to calm down. In general I am sort of amazed that people also don't realize this is a billion dollar industry and not everything put out there (including foods and chemicals) is totally safe cause the CDC says so. I'm sure this vaccine is totally safe and amazing, prevents cancer, etc but curious why there is controversy around it. Were only a few girls paralyzed? Or none? Here is one study
https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/research-briefing/trials-of-hpv-vaccine-may-have-overestimated-its-efficacy-study-finds/20207648.article?firstPass=false


OP I so agree w you. My daughter is 12 and I asked Ped if I could do some research on this before consenting. Our functional practitioner says she sees many kids after vaccine injuries. Similar to what PP posted about her sons being sick for months. I have a friend who’s 16 yr old daughter developed Lyme like symptoms after HPV vaccine (with no Lyme).

If you do some real digging in the pharmaceutical industry who produce vaccine you’ll get skeptical by nature. I do vaccine my kids (4) but space them out. The science on vaccine is so old and the companies are protected by 1986 law that people can’t sue for injury. Bc fact is there is no universally safe vaccine. Usually the rare cases are rare enough so that most kids are fine and benefits outweigh risk. But do know we as parents should demand more science and research .... we are the only ones that look out for our kids.

I’ll likely end up doing it as I do want to protect my kids, but I’d like to go into it with knowledge before I inject anything into my kids. I love my pediatrician but being blind as a consumer isn’t who I want to be or teach to my kids.

If you would like to try to do something, here is a petition on change.org
https://www.change.org/p/healthy-childhood-immunity-and-vaccination?recruiter=1086898016&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
Anonymous
My oldest son is fully vaccinated against HPV. Whether or not it protects him, if it protects the women he loves, it's worth it.

My middle child would ordinarily have started the series during COVID, but we are delaying. I don't feel that starting something that would require extra visits to the pediatrician makes sense at this time, between that and the fact that my middle schoolers aren't going anywhere, I feel confident that he can wait a year without being exposed to HPV. But he and my youngest will be vaccinated as soon as I think it's safe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most preventable form of cancer out there. It's unnecessary to get the vaccine early on.


Um, what does that mean? The vaccine is MOST effective if given prior to any sexual activity. You HAVE to get it early on. Many teams are sexually active, hate to break it to you. The virus is commonly transmitted - >50% of us have it.
If you have HPV, the cancer risk starts right then and there. I know 20 and 30 year olds who have died from cervical cancer.


You're right - HPV leaves the body naturally for most people. Most sexually active people get HPV at some point but it remains in the body for a small % of folks. That said, I worked in the HPV industry for years and the bottom line with this vaccine is: it doesn't cover all strains (esp the more virulent ones), there are potential side affects that we just don't have enough data on, and if your kid is not sexually active, you don't need it. For those folks that have HPV, regular HPV testing and paps catch it early on and it can be remediated. I am not anti-vaxxer - just b/c you don't completely support all vaccines 100% doesn't mean you are anti vaxxer.



Actually it does cover the most virulent ones including the ones which cause 70% of cervical cancers. Strain 16, in the vacc, now causes over 60% of oropharyngeal cancer. To say that HPV can be caught in your paps doesn't sounds like someone who worked in the "HPV industry" -- no idea what that even is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Four kids, have gotten all vaccines on schedule, including HPV and yearly flu shots. Boys and girls. None of my kids have gotten the flu, polio, measles, mumps, chicken pox, diphtheria, pertussis, hepatitis B, rotavirus, or meningitis. Now they will be protected against common strains of HPV, too. Thank you, science!


Same. Fan of the miracles of modern medicine administered by I pediatrician I know and trust.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You aren't pro vaccine if HPV and the flu shot "give you pause."


Yes I am, actually. Being pro vaccine doesn't mean every single vaccine you have to blindly trust.
I probably will get them it at some point but questioning things is smart.

PP with questions- flu vaccine I know 2 people injured by it and many more with severe flu even with shot
And remember the flu mist? It's great, then oops doesn't work, taken off market. Then wait- people aren't getting the shot because they don't like needles (lost money) and now the mist has reappeared.


Clearly you do not understand how vaccines work -- most vaccines are not 100% effective. That means that even though any one person who gets a vaccine can develop the vaccine-related illness, their chances of developing that illness are much lower. Vaccines have a second effect creating "herd immunity". Herd immunity is the idea that not every cow in the herd needs to be vaccinated to prevent the vaccine-related illness among cows in the herd. If you get a high enough percent of the cows vaccinated, but not all of them, none of them will get sick or even if one gets sick they will not spread it or spread it to fewer cows. Herd immunity works among humans. This is why you see in places where whooping cough or measles vaccination rates are low (Marin County, CA or NYC in some communities) that community can be subject to outbreaks of illnesses like measles and whooping cough that we normally don't see anymore in developed nations.

It is very rare to be "injured" by a vaccine. What was the "injury" you know about? Injuries are usually very unusual, so it would be a phenomenal spot of luck that you know two vaccine injured persons. Go buy lottery tix now!

Flu and other vaccines (like Shingles) do cause some symptoms -- mild fatigue, achiness, sore injection spot, etc. -- these are not considered "injuries".

Anonymous
Got it for older DD, will get it for younger DD when she's old enough. No side effects, no being told to wait in the doctor's office. Her arm hurt for 5 milliseconds and then she forgot about it.

We all do flu shots every year and will do a COVID vaccine as soon as it's available.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Got it for older DD, will get it for younger DD when she's old enough. No side effects, no being told to wait in the doctor's office. Her arm hurt for 5 milliseconds and then she forgot about it.

We all do flu shots every year and will do a COVID vaccine as soon as it's available.


+1
Forum Index » Health and Medicine
Go to: