Delivery Driver held hostage by Zimmerman wannabe

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people can see this person being illegally detained by a person with absolutely no authority to do so whatsoever and react with "well why didn't he just respect their authority and tell them whatever they wanted to know?" Can you people even hear yourselves?

Agreed. Who the hell are these people who think they can detain other people? Holy F! What a bunch of raging wannabes these white assholes are. I would not have been as calm. Why isn't the driver calling the police although it is very good the driver is on facebook live. He deserves a raise. What a great job he did.

If you watch the full video (it’s long) the driver does call the police. He actually gets very emotional because he’s terrified that if he leaves, it will be considered “fleeing the scene”....even though he did not commit a crime whatsoever.

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Can I just comment on how much I loved that the driver called him Napoleon? That just made my day.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you need a code to get in and out? Some communities will let you out without a code, my Mom's community does this.. We don't know if the customer met him at the gate to let him in.

We’d know if he would have said so. Instead he wanted to be a "victim"

Hey, asshole. He wanted to be able to do his job without sharing customer information that he had no obligation to provide with some self-appointed vigilantes.

Would you like the delivery driver to let some randos on the street know the next time they are delivering expensive electronics to your house?

It's not a random street. If I moved into a gated community and someone was giving out the code to everyone, I'd ask who was giving out the code.

If you found some "rando" sitting on your couch, you wouldn't ask "who let you in?" The whole point of a gated community is the illusion of security, if someone else in the community is putting that at risk, every homeowner has the right to know who that person is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

You just made all of that up out of your butt.

It's in the link on the first post


“All we want to know is why you’re in here and who gave you the gate code. That’s all we need to know,” the man said.

What fell out of your butt is the idea that HOA Harry had a right to know or ask.

Everyone in that community has the right to know if giving out the code is against the bylaws. It's pretty simple, when you move into a HOA you sign the bylaws and can be expected to follow them.

The HOA bylaws give you the right to commit false imprisonment? Interesting.

Why are you adding stuff to my answer? I answered the question asked, it said nothing about blocking the guy. HOA Harry had the right to ask the question.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

You just made all of that up out of your butt.

It's in the link on the first post


“All we want to know is why you’re in here and who gave you the gate code. That’s all we need to know,” the man said.

What fell out of your butt is the idea that HOA Harry had a right to know or ask.

Everyone in that community has the right to know if giving out the code is against the bylaws. It's pretty simple, when you move into a HOA you sign the bylaws and can be expected to follow them.

The HOA bylaws give you the right to commit false imprisonment? Interesting.

Why are you adding stuff to my answer? I answered the question asked, it said nothing about blocking the guy. HOA Harry had the right to ask the question.

DP here (from the one you are arguing with). Yes, HOA Harry had the right to ask the question. Driver had the right to decline to answer. So far so good.

At that point HOA Harry should have let the driver go. Instead, they committed an illegal act of falsely imprisoning the driver. If the HOA needs that information, they can hire a lawyer and send a request to the delivery company to request the information on which customers are giving out that information. The driver likely does not have the right to give out customer information and probably would lose his job if he did. That's private company information. A lawyer can request the information and if necessary file to get the information released from the company, but the driver likely does not have the right to release such information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

Asking the guy a question - which he is not obliged to answer - that's one thing (still racist IMHO)

But blocking him in with your car. Oh hell no. Lawsuit coming. Hope they throw the book at the HOA guy(s)

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Anonymous wrote:Considering it’s a white dude harassing a black delivery driver, I think this is more than just “who gave you the code”.

Well, only if you attribute everything to racism.

WTF are you talking about... when he asked the driver his name the driver said what is your name and he said "DAVID DUKE" ... DAVID F'ING DUKE

HOW THE F IS THAT NOT RACIST?

He said David Stewart (which is his actual name), not David Duke. And the captor volunteered that information because he said “you want to take my picture, now you have my name too”. Then he had the audacity (shocking!) to call the driver’s job after this blew up and demand that the driver take the video down. Too bad for him it’s been shared thousands of times.

A bit of googling led me to this interview with a person who might be Stewart from a few years ago. Looks like he's from Mississippi originally. Huh.

https://oklahoman.com/article/3855596/qa-david-stewart-owner-of-raven-resources

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

Asking the guy a question - which he is not obliged to answer - that's one thing (still racist IMHO)

But blocking him in with your car. Oh hell no. Lawsuit coming. Hope they throw the book at the HOA guy(s)

How is asking someone a question racist? Am I only allowed to ask white people questions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

Asking the guy a question - which he is not obliged to answer - that's one thing (still racist IMHO)

But blocking him in with your car. Oh hell no. Lawsuit coming. Hope they throw the book at the HOA guy(s)

How is asking someone a question racist? Am I only allowed to ask white people questions?

I don't believe for a second that a white delivery driver in a clearly marked delivery truck would have been questioned or detained as this driver was.

The good news is, Mr Stewart appears to have some VERY deep pockets and can afford the lawyer he will likely need. https://www.theenergylawblog.com/2012/02/articles/oil-gas-contracts/texas-case-holds-seller-bound-to-terms-of-forged-document/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you need a code to get in and out? Some communities will let you out without a code, my Mom's community does this.. We don't know if the customer met him at the gate to let him in.

We’d know if he would have said so. Instead he wanted to be a "victim"

Hey, asshole. He wanted to be able to do his job without sharing customer information that he had no obligation to provide with some self-appointed vigilantes.

Would you like the delivery driver to let some randos on the street know the next time they are delivering expensive electronics to your house?

It's not a random street. If I moved into a gated community and someone was giving out the code to everyone, I'd ask who was giving out the code.

If you found some "rando" sitting on your couch, you wouldn't ask "who let you in?" The whole point of a gated community is the illusion of security, if someone else in the community is putting that at risk, every homeowner has the right to know who that person is.

Those idiots had no right to detain the driver. Your analogies are stupid.

It is painful to watch what the driver is reduced to. He knows he could die in this situation and inbred Billy Bob 1 and 2 would more than likely walk away unscathed. The driver knows how easily he can be detained, held in jail or die over NOTHING. He is trying very hard not to escalate the situation and is scared but those inbred idiots actually tried, at one point, to say he was threatening them. He knows like those ignorant red necks know, that they will be assumed innocent and right in the initial assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

Asking the guy a question - which he is not obliged to answer - that's one thing (still racist IMHO)

But blocking him in with your car. Oh hell no. Lawsuit coming. Hope they throw the book at the HOA guy(s)

How is asking someone a question racist? Am I only allowed to ask white people questions?

You, like a very bad defense attorney, are being intentionally thick. Go back to your klan meeting.

[Anonymous]

This driver should be given a raise. What a great job in the face of such dangerous bravado and idiocy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

Asking the guy a question - which he is not obliged to answer - that's one thing (still racist IMHO)

But blocking him in with your car. Oh hell no. Lawsuit coming. Hope they throw the book at the HOA guy(s)

How is asking someone a question racist? Am I only allowed to ask white people questions?

I don't believe for a second that a white delivery driver in a clearly marked delivery truck would have been questioned or detained as this driver was.

The good news is, Mr Stewart appears to have some VERY deep pockets and can afford the lawyer he will likely need. https://www.theenergylawblog.com/2012/02/articles/oil-gas-contracts/texas-case-holds-seller-bound-to-terms-of-forged-document/

No one mentioned detained, but keep on adding stuff to move the goalposts. You don't think any driver in a gated community would be asked who gave him the code? Only the non white ones? Amazing. I guess if you want to find a reason to blame "the white guy" you can.

I'll try again, how is asking a question racist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you need a code to get in and out? Some communities will let you out without a code, my Mom's community does this.. We don't know if the customer met him at the gate to let him in.

We’d know if he would have said so. Instead he wanted to be a "victim"

Hey, asshole. He wanted to be able to do his job without sharing customer information that he had no obligation to provide with some self-appointed vigilantes.

Would you like the delivery driver to let some randos on the street know the next time they are delivering expensive electronics to your house?

It's not a random street. If I moved into a gated community and someone was giving out the code to everyone, I'd ask who was giving out the code.

If you found some "rando" sitting on your couch, you wouldn't ask "who let you in?" The whole point of a gated community is the illusion of security, if someone else in the community is putting that at risk, every homeowner has the right to know who that person is.

Those idiots had no right to detain the driver. Your analogies are stupid.

It is painful to watch what the driver is reduced to. He knows he could die in this situation and inbred Billy Bob 1 and 2 would more than likely walk away unscathed. The driver knows how easily he can be detained, held in jail or die over NOTHING. He is trying very hard not to escalate the situation and is scared but those inbred idiots actually tried, at one point, to say he was threatening them. He knows like those ignorant red necks know, that they will be assumed innocent and right in the initial assessment.

I never said they had the right to detain him, I said they have the right to ask him. If you have to add stuff to make your point, you look foolish

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy was in a gated community and they wanted to know who gave him the code. Seems reasonable if giving out the code is against the HOA rules. They wanted to know who in the community decided they were above the rules, it has nothing to do with the driver himself.

Asking the guy a question - which he is not obliged to answer - that's one thing (still racist IMHO)

But blocking him in with your car. Oh hell no. Lawsuit coming. Hope they throw the book at the HOA guy(s)

How is asking someone a question racist? Am I only allowed to ask white people questions?

I don't believe for a second that a white delivery driver in a clearly marked delivery truck would have been questioned or detained as this driver was.

The good news is, Mr Stewart appears to have some VERY deep pockets and can afford the lawyer he will likely need. https://www.theenergylawblog.com/2012/02/articles/oil-gas-contracts/texas-case-holds-seller-bound-to-terms-of-forged-document/

No one mentioned detained, but keep on adding stuff to move the goalposts. You don't think any driver in a gated community would be asked who gave him the code? Only the non white ones? Amazing. I guess if you want to find a reason to blame "the white guy" you can.

I'll try again, how is asking a question racist?

He was held against his will for 30 minutes - 1 hour.

Yes that is being detained .... and it is against the law.