How Likely Is Soccer in the Fall ? (with Games!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

Out of the millions of children who have by now been exposed to covid, there has not been a single death from this syndrome. Utter BS.

[Anonymous]

It's not going to start in the fall. Not enough people will sign up and there won't be enough coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not going to start in the fall. Not enough people will sign up and there won't be enough coaches.

Why are people like you so invested in the worst possible outcome?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

Out of the millions of children who have by now been exposed to covid, there has not been a single death from this syndrome. Utter BS.

Looks like you haven’t been watching the news. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not going to start in the fall. Not enough people will sign up and there won't be enough coaches.

Why are people like you so invested in the worst possible outcome?

He is speaking about a most likely scenario. Even some colleges are not opening campuses this fall. Be interesting to see how the local counties decide the opening of public schools.

This country can blame China for the virus, but our country was stupid enough to believe China & WHO in the first place. We are in this situation because there are people like you that aren’t “invested in the worse possible outcome”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

Out of the millions of children who have by now been exposed to covid, there has not been a single death from this syndrome. Utter BS.

“Three children, a 5-year-old boy in New York City, a 7-year old in Westchester County and a teenager in Suffolk County have died.

It appears the three children did not have underlying conditions, which are often associated with the patients most gravely affected by COVID-19.“

https://abc7ny.com/pediatric-multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-pmis-symptoms-covid-children-coronavirus/6169496/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

Out of the millions of children who have by now been exposed to covid, there has not been a single death from this syndrome. Utter BS.

“Three children, a 5-year-old boy in New York City, a 7-year old in Westchester County and a teenager in Suffolk County have died.

It appears the three children did not have underlying conditions, which are often associated with the patients most gravely affected by COVID-19.“

https://abc7ny.com/pediatric-multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-pmis-symptoms-covid-children-coronavirus/6169496/

But some of their teachers and coaches have died.

[Anonymous]

I just want to make 3 points:

1. Children in the US have died from Covid-19 or the subsequent inflammation disorder that resembles, but is not, Kawasaki Disease. It is a new disorder. However this is a very small number out of all known cases.

2. It is MATHEMATICALLY CERTAIN that there will be a surge in cases anytime physical distancing rules are relaxed. This is because the virus is not going away, and we don't have a vaccine yet.

3. Conclusion: please don't pay for any 2020-2021 activity unless you are 100% sure you can get a refund.

[Anonymous]

There's not going to be normal school, how can you expect there to be soccer games? Not a chance in hell they're going to happen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

Out of the millions of children who have by now been exposed to covid, there has not been a single death from this syndrome. Utter BS.

“Three children, a 5-year-old boy in New York City, a 7-year old in Westchester County and a teenager in Suffolk County have died.

It appears the three children did not have underlying conditions, which are often associated with the patients most gravely affected by COVID-19.“

https://abc7ny.com/pediatric-multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-pmis-symptoms-covid-children-coronavirus/6169496/

"The children had tested positive for COVID-19 or the antibodies but did not show the common symptoms of the virus when they were hospitalized."

Probably 50% of New Yorkers would test positive for antibodies by now. This has nothing to do with covid-19. Just take all kids who died with these symptoms - which could result from a whole host of causes - test them for covid - and find three that have antibodies and then claim that they are covid deaths. This is not just not good science - it bears absolutely no relationship to science at all. It is however profitable tabloid journalism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/nyregion/children-Kawasaki-syndrome-coronavirus.html

This article is fear porn.

Kawasaki disease is well understood. It affects a very small number of children, mostly under 5, each year and can occur in response to many viruses, seemingly including covid-19. It is well understood, eminently treateable and curable, and has no lasting effects.

The article may be fear porn, but this post is misinformed.

The KD we are seeing post-COVID also has elements of Toxic Shock Syndrome and Macrophage Activation Syndrome. These kids are MUCH sicker than the standard KD patient (most are requiring PICU-level care, which is uncommon in KD) and skew older (elementary & middle-school aged), and they are NOT responding to the common KD treatments of IVIG and high-dose ASA.

The number of KD patients still represents a small proportion of the population and thus should not necessarily impact the decision to return to play; however, it is incorrect to say that this condition is "eminently treateable (sp) and curable"

Thanks for this distinction. This is why they gave it a different name.

Sorry - but this is more fear porn. See: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86484. Despite the fear porn headline the crucial text is as follows:

Unlike COVID-19, where pre-existing conditions seem to play a role in severity of infection, Choueiter said most children presenting with this syndrome were previously healthy, and "most were not aware they had COVID." "Some had a positive PCR test, some had a negative PCR test. Among the negative tests, some had a positive test for antibodies, which suggests they were exposed to the virus weeks back," she noted. Choueiter noted kids can be hospitalized in the ICU for 1 to 2 weeks for this syndrome, or in less serious cases, a few days. "So far, most who have been admitted have gone home," she said.

So no real evidence this has anything to do with covid. Plus numbers so small that no statistical conclusions can sensibly be drawn in any case.

Haven't you got tired of the endless evidence free fear mongering yet? Fatality rates of 10%, millions of deaths in the US, deadly mutant strains, you don't get immune so you can get it twice, etc. etc. This is just the latest attempt to sell newspapers and/or justify the lockdown, and not even a good one at that. It will turn out to be as much nonsense as all the other fear porn that's been purveyed by our proud, free, gallant reprsentatives of the noble fourth estate.

Out of the millions of children who have by now been exposed to covid, there has not been a single death from this syndrome. Utter BS.

“Three children, a 5-year-old boy in New York City, a 7-year old in Westchester County and a teenager in Suffolk County have died.

It appears the three children did not have underlying conditions, which are often associated with the patients most gravely affected by COVID-19.“

https://abc7ny.com/pediatric-multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-pmis-symptoms-covid-children-coronavirus/6169496/

"The children had tested positive for COVID-19 or the antibodies but did not show the common symptoms of the virus when they were hospitalized."

Probably 50% of New Yorkers would test positive for antibodies by now. This has nothing to do with covid-19. Just take all kids who died with these symptoms - which could result from a whole host of causes - test them for covid - and find three that have antibodies and then claim that they are covid deaths. This is not just not good science - it bears absolutely no relationship to science at all. It is however profitable tabloid journalism.

Probably 50%?
NYcity - 8.3 million
NY - 20 million
Confirmed NY Covid19 - 346K
Confirmed deaths - 27.5K

Not everyone who had/ has COVID19 are able to test well for antibodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's not going to be normal school, how can you expect there to be soccer games? Not a chance in hell they're going to happen

+1

I’ve pretty much accepted the fact my teens will not be going back to school in the Fall.

Online.

Without school there will be no soccer.

[Anonymous]

Has any organization or coach heard different? Spoke to the coach and Director of our club, even though they are hoping for things to pick up June 10th, it was apparent that really wasn’t the case.

Parents from an ECNL club said they’re director has heard from reputable sources that VA youth soccer will be back on the pitch full force late June.

[Anonymous]

Our ECNL club said that they didn't know what will happen in the fall and that they are discussing a possibility of refunding the money, if the season is cancelled. There is nothing in writing yet, but the idea is that the parents will lose their deposit but won't be charged anything beyond it.