OP is full of it. The split is more 80% stay close, 20% open — so good luck to businesses opening... |
CDC: There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water. |
^ WHO has said the same thing. |
Open. The cure is WAY worse than the disease. Children in other countries are starving from the economic shut down. Huge error in judgement. |
This! Exactly! People who think that isolating for another 3 or 6 months is going to prevent them from getting the virus are delusional. Unless you are willing to wait 18 months until there is (hopefully) a vaccine, you are going to get it. Flattening the curve does not eradicate the virus, both curves have the same number of diagnoses, the only difference is the time over which they occur. |
This is the split only when the question is all or nothing. If you asked whether people want a soft opening right now I’d bet at least 60 percent would say yes |
This is what we have to look forward to if we don’t reopen. A 2 mile food line. We’re reopening.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/30/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-UHX22A2N25HVPN7UKRICN4SQ7U |
This just means they havent studied it. Thry font have an answer. I honestly dont worry about pools. The locker rooms are what will make you sick. |
This whole thread is based on a false premise. A healthy (pun intended) majority of Americans support stay-at-home measures. Including a majority of Republicans.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/do-most-republicans-agree-with-people-protesting-stay-at-home-orders/ Just because there are (at least) two sides to every story, does not mean there is a 50/50 division in support. This reminds me of an old anecdote of a producer's meeting for a nighttime infotainment show, when they were talking about a comet that was getting close to earth. One person asked, "What are the odds it will crash into us?" And another responded, "Well, it could happen or it could not happen, so... 50/50?" |
+ this. People are going to starve because they can’t afford food anymore and the supply chain is breaking down. It was a shocker at our local grocery store (not in dmv) one onion was almost $4!! |
What's the difference between indoor and outdoor pool? You think there is not, pardon me my french, fecal shedding in outdoor pools? And do you seriously believe CDC after almost 8 weeks of this? They were the ones who told us not to wear masks, they were the ones doing the "screening" of exposed cruise ship passengers just by taking temperatures upon arrival, and then releasing them into the country, with many sick but asymptomatic at the time, and some have died since?
Have a good swim. |
+1 The money is going to run out. That’s when society starts to break down. The cure is about to get way worse than the disease. It is a very privileged idea that we can all just somehow stay at home for much longer. Way more people are going to die of starvation due to everyone shutting down due to covid than the actual disease itself. I am not a republican and I can’t stand trump by the way. I’m just seriously worried for the world if we stay shut down much longer. |
She doesn’t need to get a job. But she should let the grown-ups talk and go do some online shopping or something |
You all are nuts. The SIP isn’t the main problem. Essential food supply is still open for now, they are only shutting down when too many workers get sick that they can’t operate. So a more widespread disease will actually hurt food supply more. We are not Africa. We could increase the tax 1% on the to 10%, combined with 0% borrowing rate, provide an endless supply of UBI to those in need to get through the next two years. I think 1/3 of US is already on social security, either retirement or disability. Extending unemployment like we did in 2008 is a reasonable accommodation. We just have to have political will before we have political revolution. Businesses that are closed now are going to struggle greatly. People are going to be wary of getting sick and customers will be thin on the ground. And employees will be compelled to return to work b/c no longer eligible for unemployment, even if they are high risk. |
It's not true that it hasn't been studied. WHO and other health organizations have been reporting studies about the effect of chlorine and other routine disinfectants (used in both swimming pools and in drinking water facilities) and their effect on covid-19 and other coronaviruses (as enveloped viruses, they are sensitive to these and killed upon exposure). I agree about the risk of locker room and other human to human transmission near the water however. |