Maryland - Shelter in place

[Anonymous]

If you are a caregiver for an essential employee- what does the employer/family need to give you so you can continue on with work?

[Anonymous]

Some employers are issuing letters to people verifying their status as essential and I know MCPS told key employees to have their IDs on them to show if needed. Are we likely to be confronted by law enforcement while out and about? I didn't go to the store today because the order was clear that this was allowed and I figured it would be a madhouse in advance of the order, but if there's a possibility of being stopped and needing to explain my movements when I go out, I'd like to be psychologically prepared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some employers are issuing letters to people verifying their status as essential and I know MCPS told key employees to have their IDs on them to show if needed. Are we likely to be confronted by law enforcement while out and about? I didn't go to the store today because the order was clear that this was allowed and I figured it would be a madhouse in advance of the order, but if there's a possibility of being stopped and needing to explain my movements when I go out, I'd like to be psychologically prepared.

I think you are a bit over concerned. All non-essential businesses were closed before. People are still allowed to go to open stores and do virtually everything they were doing before (aside from pick up take out...which I do not understand). They just added enforcement for people defying orders and getting together in groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The language is a little unclear:

ii. Caring for a family member, friend, pet, or livestock in another household
or location, including, without limitation, transporting a family member,
friend, pet, or livestock animal for essential health and safety activities,
and to obtain necessary supplies and services;

In the case of caregiving for a non-family member / friend or essential personnel (i.e. nanny caring for children of non-essential personnel), it sounds like the stay-at-home order applies?

This is a hard blow as my spouse's and my job has been crazy busy and having our nanny come (the three of us are practicing strict social distancing rules) has been a lifesaver.

No it’s allowed. I wrote a note for our babysitter in case she needs it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some employers are issuing letters to people verifying their status as essential and I know MCPS told key employees to have their IDs on them to show if needed. Are we likely to be confronted by law enforcement while out and about? I didn't go to the store today because the order was clear that this was allowed and I figured it would be a madhouse in advance of the order, but if there's a possibility of being stopped and needing to explain my movements when I go out, I'd like to be psychologically prepared.

I think you are a bit over concerned. All non-essential businesses were closed before. People are still allowed to go to open stores and do virtually everything they were doing before (aside from pick up take out...which I do not understand). They just added enforcement for people defying orders and getting together in groups.

You are right. Here's a statement from the Montgomery County Police: http://www.mymcpnews.com/2020/03/31/montgomery-county-department-of-police-statement-on-enforcement-of-governor-hogans-executive-order/

Summary: They are not going to be randomly stopping people and checking for compliance. However, if you are encountered in the course of a traffic stop, investigation of a large gathering, or investigation of suspicious activity, they may ask what you are doing out.

[Anonymous]

Stay at home order besides violating due process violates MD Constitution Art. 44

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stay at home order besides violating due process violates MD Constitution Art. 44

Not under a state of emergency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stay at home order besides violating due process violates MD Constitution Art. 44

Not under a state of emergency.

Maryland constitution article 44 forbids any type of necessity justification for suspending constitutional rights

[Anonymous]

https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/00dec.html

Art. 44. That the provisions of the Constitution of the United States, and of this State, apply, as well in time of war, as in time of peace; and any departure therefrom, or violation thereof, under the plea of necessity, or any other plea, is subversive of good Government, and tends to anarchy and despotism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/00dec.html

Art. 44. That the provisions of the Constitution of the United States, and of this State, apply, as well in time of war, as in time of peace; and any departure therefrom, or violation thereof, under the plea of necessity, or any other plea, is subversive of good Government, and tends to anarchy and despotism.

Good luck citing that when the cops come and break up your block party ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/00dec.html

Art. 44. That the provisions of the Constitution of the United States, and of this State, apply, as well in time of war, as in time of peace; and any departure therefrom, or violation thereof, under the plea of necessity, or any other plea, is subversive of good Government, and tends to anarchy and despotism.

Good luck citing that when the cops come and break up your block party ...

you can be arrested for going out to buy a newspaper

[Anonymous]

All these opponents of the order are full of shit. You're just arguing for the sake of entertainment. You know good and damn well none of you citing Constitutional rights and objecting to the Stay-At-Home order aren't going to be throwing block parties and holding backyard barbecues inviting all of your neighbors. You're sheltering in place and maintaining social distancing just like every other sensible person out here. If you're not...well, you have the Constitutional right to be an idiot I suppose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these opponents of the order are full of shit. You're just arguing for the sake of entertainment. You know good and damn well none of you citing Constitutional rights and objecting to the Stay-At-Home order aren't going to be throwing block parties and holding backyard barbecues inviting all of your neighbors. You're sheltering in place and maintaining social distancing just like every other sensible person out here. If you're not...well, you have the Constitutional right to be an idiot I suppose.

I’m not sayin people should be having parties . They have a right to assemble. They have a right to leave home even if they shouldn’t. Being under arrest requires probable cause you committed a crime to meet due process requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these opponents of the order are full of shit. You're just arguing for the sake of entertainment. You know good and damn well none of you citing Constitutional rights and objecting to the Stay-At-Home order aren't going to be throwing block parties and holding backyard barbecues inviting all of your neighbors. You're sheltering in place and maintaining social distancing just like every other sensible person out here. If you're not...well, you have the Constitutional right to be an idiot I suppose.

I’m not sayin people should be having parties . They have a right to assemble. They have a right to leave home even if they shouldn’t. Being under arrest requires probable cause you committed a crime to meet due process requirements.

Then feel free to assemble and become a disease vector, but recognize that doing so means you are an absolute ass and a menace to public health. And if I see you doing it, I'm calling the cops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these opponents of the order are full of shit. You're just arguing for the sake of entertainment. You know good and damn well none of you citing Constitutional rights and objecting to the Stay-At-Home order aren't going to be throwing block parties and holding backyard barbecues inviting all of your neighbors. You're sheltering in place and maintaining social distancing just like every other sensible person out here. If you're not...well, you have the Constitutional right to be an idiot I suppose.

I’m not sayin people should be having parties . They have a right to assemble. They have a right to leave home even if they shouldn’t. Being under arrest requires probable cause you committed a crime to meet due process requirements.

To each his own. When are you getting off social media and throwing something on to go out and about and test your theory about your rights? Please keep us updated. Novel idea: You could do a Facebook live session or a make YouTube video of yourself wandering around for no essential reason other than sheer defiance and the rationale that needing to exercise your rights supersedes the general public needing to take the necessary precautions to curb this pandemic. Never know, you may become an internet sensation.