Anyone following the Scott Hapgood story?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone came into your house and attacked you, and you restrained that person until police arrived, and they died? Would you consider yourself a murderer? I doubt it. This is the same thing.

Yes, if someone else were standing there enjoining me to stop sitting on his chest, pointing out that he was having problems breathing, and I intentionally chose to continue sitting on his chest (instead of doing any of a number of other things that might have restrained him equally well without suffocating him), which meant I was deliberating about what I was doing--I would consider myself a murderer. Because killing someone with time to premeditate it is the definition of murder. Which is exactly why Hapgood doesn't want to be tried.

He's been charged with manslaughter. FYI

And that's not the definition of premeditation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone came into your house and attacked you, and you restrained that person until police arrived, and they died? Would you consider yourself a murderer? I doubt it. This is the same thing.

Yes, if someone else were standing there enjoining me to stop sitting on his chest, pointing out that he was having problems breathing, and I intentionally chose to continue sitting on his chest (instead of doing any of a number of other things that might have restrained him equally well without suffocating him), which meant I was deliberating about what I was doing--I would consider myself a murderer. Because killing someone with time to premeditate it is the definition of murder. Which is exactly why Hapgood doesn't want to be tried.

He's been charged with manslaughter. FYI

And that's not the definition of premeditation.

That's unfortunate, because what he did and the duration of time over which he did it would make a murder charge plausible.

[Anonymous]

Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone came into your house and attacked you, and you restrained that person until police arrived, and they died? Would you consider yourself a murderer? I doubt it. This is the same thing.

Yes, if someone else were standing there enjoining me to stop sitting on his chest, pointing out that he was having problems breathing, and I intentionally chose to continue sitting on his chest (instead of doing any of a number of other things that might have restrained him equally well without suffocating him), which meant I was deliberating about what I was doing--I would consider myself a murderer. Because killing someone with time to premeditate it is the definition of murder. Which is exactly why Hapgood doesn't want to be tried.

He's been charged with manslaughter. FYI

And that's not the definition of premeditation.

That's unfortunate, because what he did and the duration of time over which he did it would make a murder charge plausible.

No it wouldn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Yep.

You can't excuse killing someone with "he would have died anyway" "he deserved to die".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

Why would the hotel employee tank Hapgood off of Kenny?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

Why would the hotel employee tank Hapgood off of Kenny?

Because Hapgood was in the process of killing Kenny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

Why would the hotel employee tank Hapgood off of Kenny?

Because Hapgood was in the process of killing Kenny.

And because you feel sorry for the would be-thief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

Why would the hotel employee tank Hapgood off of Kenny?

Because Hapgood was in the process of killing Kenny.

And because you feel sorry for the would be-thief.

Did anyone test Hapgood for drugs? However you feel about the victim, it's odd that Hapgood refused to let the guy breathe. Or talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

Why would the hotel employee tank Hapgood off of Kenny?

Because Hapgood was in the process of killing Kenny.

And because you feel sorry for the would be-thief.

Did anyone test Hapgood for drugs? However you feel about the victim, it's odd that Hapgood refused to let the guy breathe. Or talk.

I could see my DH doing absolutely the same. Restraining the guy until the police came. Another hotel employee who appeared to be the intruder’s friend wouldn’t convince him to let Kenny go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is this idiot that keeps defending the drunk, high, knife wielding thief? Stop already. he got what he deserved. End of story. If Scott hadn't killed him, someone else would have, or he'd have fallen down some stairs and cracked his head open or whatever. The world is a better place without him in it. Accept it and move on.

Hapgood “seemed scared, but it wasn’t fully shown,” the source recalled. “You could also sense he was beyond angry and also came off slightly deranged. He wasn’t finishing sentences.”

The worker said he tried reasoning with Hapgood.

“I was explaining you have to allow [Mitchel] to breathe, so ease off of him.”

“Security asked me to find duct tape,” he recalled. “I looked for anything just to restrain Kenny, so that Mr. Hapgood would get off of him. I couldn’t find any.”

As the banker loosened up, the source recalls, Mitchel regained consciousness and said, “No, no, no. Can I speak?”

“You don’t have a f-?-king thing to say,” Hapgood allegedly said before tightening his hold again.

“You could see Kenny’s feet in the air,” the source said.

Then Hapgood’s wife walked in. She looked shocked and asked her husband if he was OK, the witness said.

It's odd that the worker didn't just yank Hapgood off the guy but I assume the worker didn't want to get accused of assaulting the white American guest.

Why would the hotel employee tank Hapgood off of Kenny?

Because Hapgood was in the process of killing Kenny.

And because you feel sorry for the would be-thief.

Did anyone test Hapgood for drugs? However you feel about the victim, it's odd that Hapgood refused to let the guy breathe. Or talk.

When you have to fight off a cocaine intoxicated knife wielding assailant in order to protect your children I’m sure you’ll do it differently.

[Anonymous]

It's the height of privilege to not consider the possibility that this was a drug deal gone wrong. Sorry if your fragile world doesn't allow for a scenario where Hapgood was trying to score drugs and might not be the precious innocent victim he claims to be. I mean, no one from his wealthy suburb in Connecticut has ever purchased or used cocaine before. /s