Anyone following the Scott Hapgood story?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone would defend a guy who was coked up, nine drinks in his system, had previously raped his baby mama and had a restraining order against him, and came at Hapgood with a knife. Seriously???? Do you people even hear yourselves?

Oh, I forgot - Hapgood is white and blond, so obviously this is a case of “white privilege.” JFC.

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PC At its finest. I feel so sorry for this family.

[Anonymous]

Oliver Prichard, who is quoted numerous in the article (As is his mother), grew up in DC and went to school here before going to Dartmouth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe his story, but he should not have kept sitting on him in that manner so he couldn’t breathe for so long. It’s crazy the security didn’t get security there faster. Did the hotel employee not have a cell phone or walk-in talkie? They were only 100 yards from the pool. To be fair I could see hapgood being in shock and being scared to get up or scared that if he lets loose at all the two might gang up on him or the robber might fight back more.

I am not sure I believe all of it but I do believe he panicked fairly quickly. Maybe Kenny had a knife, maybe he was slurring his words, and Scott’s mind raced to worse case scenario and he panicked and then eventually went into shock. He doesn’t look like the kind of guy who is ever going to want to admit being scared, panicking and making poor choices. I don’t think he suffocated but yes I can believe the hit to the head and been a bit drugged up, and the not receiving the right kind of emergency care all contributed to the death. If he hit his head, he could have had a small brain bleed that went undetected for example.

Completely agree. These are people who have always lived within a bubble of extreme privilege and safety. I can only imagine the panic, confusion, and adrenaline he must have felt in this scenario, and there's no way he was thinking through any consequences beyond what would happen if he didn't keep Kenny restrained. It's very easy to hate on the Hapgoods, especially when Trump's tweeting about them, Kallie's on Fox and Friends, and their friends' idea of rallying around them is to talk trash about an entire country. But 100% think he acted on instinct, was only concerned with protecting his family, and shouldn't be punished for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oliver Prichard, who is quoted numerous in the article (As is his mother), grew up in DC and went to school here before going to Dartmouth.

I knew his name sounded familiar. Landon?

[Anonymous]

If someone came into your house and attacked you, and you restrained that person until police arrived, and they died? Would you consider yourself a murderer? I doubt it. This is the same thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did their publicist write that article for them?

Sounded like exactly the opposite to me. The article was almost satirical in its over-the-too description Scott and his family, stressing repeatedly their blond hair (wtf?) and their fortunate lifestyle. Sounded very sarcastic. I hate the author’s snarky tone.

This part sounded spot on though

“Over 500 people donated to Scott’s GoFundMe,” said family friend Tom Ruzzo. “About 25 people contributed to the daughter of Kenny. Dollar amounts aside, that says a lot to me. That’s a character thing.” He did not mention the fact that the population of Darien is larger than that of the entire island of Anguilla, nor the vast difference in disposable income between residents of the two places, nor the sprawling networks a privileged American couple like Scott and Kallie Hapgood are part of—college, the finance worlds of Connecticut and Manhattan, their kids’ schools, a town where he has lived most of his life and where his parents have lived for most of theirs—which have no equivalent on an island territory that’s home to fishermen and hospitality workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe his story, but he should not have kept sitting on him in that manner so he couldn’t breathe for so long. It’s crazy the security didn’t get security there faster. Did the hotel employee not have a cell phone or walk-in talkie? They were only 100 yards from the pool. To be fair I could see hapgood being in shock and being scared to get up or scared that if he lets loose at all the two might gang up on him or the robber might fight back more.

I am not sure I believe all of it but I do believe he panicked fairly quickly. Maybe Kenny had a knife, maybe he was slurring his words, and Scott’s mind raced to worse case scenario and he panicked and then eventually went into shock. He doesn’t look like the kind of guy who is ever going to want to admit being scared, panicking and making poor choices. I don’t think he suffocated but yes I can believe the hit to the head and been a bit drugged up, and the not receiving the right kind of emergency care all contributed to the death. If he hit his head, he could have had a small brain bleed that went undetected for example.

Completely agree. These are people who have always lived within a bubble of extreme privilege and safety. I can only imagine the panic, confusion, and adrenaline he must have felt in this scenario, and there's no way he was thinking through any consequences beyond what would happen if he didn't keep Kenny restrained. It's very easy to hate on the Hapgoods, especially when Trump's tweeting about them, Kallie's on Fox and Friends, and their friends' idea of rallying around them is to talk trash about an entire country. But 100% think he acted on instinct, was only concerned with protecting his family, and shouldn't be punished for it.

OK but why not just hold his head and arms down etc. Why sit on his chest? Why not sit on his stomach and hold down his shoulders etc?

I think he didn't want the guy to talk. Apparently Kenny asked if he could say something. The security person kept saying get off his chest and Scott kept refusing. This went back and forth for 10 minutes which seems bizarre.

Kenny was about to explain that Scott asked him to come to his room to sell him drugs or something like that.

[Anonymous]

Even if that were true (drugs), he (Kenny) obviously attacked the guy

[Anonymous]

White rich male who kills a coked out man who breaks into his hotel room where his young daughters are staying...MURDERER

White female kills a kid because she's driving on the wrong side of the road and then flees back to the DC area under diplomatic immunity ...IT WAS AN ACCIDENT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if that were true (drugs), he (Kenny) obviously attacked the guy

That part is unclear. He claims he was attacked and stabbed. But the knife was clean apparently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone would defend a guy who was coked up, nine drinks in his system, had previously raped his baby mama and had a restraining order against him, and came at Hapgood with a knife. Seriously???? Do you people even hear yourselves?

Oh, I forgot - Hapgood is white and blond, so obviously this is a case of “white privilege.” JFC.

I don’t have an issue with Hapgood’s initial actions, but I do have issue with him not allowing medical care. The “self defense” part was over at that point. Kenny was not a threat, and there were other people/workers in the room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that anyone would defend a guy who was coked up, nine drinks in his system, had previously raped his baby mama and had a restraining order against him, and came at Hapgood with a knife. Seriously???? Do you people even hear yourselves?

Oh, I forgot - Hapgood is white and blond, so obviously this is a case of “white privilege.” JFC.

I don’t have an issue with Hapgood’s initial actions, but I do have issue with him not allowing medical care. The “self defense” part was over at that point. Kenny was not a threat, and there were other people/workers in the room.

You mean not trusting the other hotel employees and wanting the police to deal with things?

Would you have done anything differently than he did? If you were in that situation?

[Anonymous]

Enough evidence that the late for work, recently separated and charged, high guy caused this. But Scott should have let go sooner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If someone came into your house and attacked you, and you restrained that person until police arrived, and they died? Would you consider yourself a murderer? I doubt it. This is the same thing.

Yes, if someone else were standing there enjoining me to stop sitting on his chest, pointing out that he was having problems breathing, and I intentionally chose to continue sitting on his chest (instead of doing any of a number of other things that might have restrained him equally well without suffocating him), which meant I was deliberating about what I was doing--I would consider myself a murderer. Because killing someone with time to premeditate it is the definition of murder. Which is exactly why Hapgood doesn't want to be tried.

[Anonymous]

Was Kenny actually assigned to fix anything in that room that day?