Virginia Tech gets 1,000 more freshman than last year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid's school doesn't require freshmen to live on campus, but they do say that housing is guaranteed for anyone who wants it. (And I think some 95% of them do live on campus.) Does VT make such a promise?

Evidently not this year. In the past, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two of my kids turn down Tech to go to UVA

Good. Let's hope their grammar is better than yours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They bring cool speakers (Zadie Smith, etc.) music and theater to the boonies. There’s also an overwhelming choice of clubs and activities. Bigger problem is there’s not time to do a lot if you’re in one of the tougher majors.

You can now add in commute time to/from your off campus apartment.

When I was at Tech in the 80's it wasn't that unusual to stay in the dorms your entire 4 years. At least Blacksburg is a fairly safe town so having your college freshman living in an off campus apartment isn't too terrible.

This happened to Scripps two years ago. Kids were put up 4-6 in 2-3 bedroom graduate housing 25min off campus. The bus was always late. They weren’t part of the community. Girls be PISSED.

And this year Northeastern did the same. Sent their Spring admits kids to Ireland for “study abroad” in Fall. When they got to campus in January, there was no housing so they were put in apartments 15min from campus. Talk about a waste of a year. Better off going to community college.

Northeastern has NUin - those “spring admits” are *suppose* to travel abroad their Fall semester. That’s literally the program every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They bring cool speakers (Zadie Smith, etc.) music and theater to the boonies. There’s also an overwhelming choice of clubs and activities. Bigger problem is there’s not time to do a lot if you’re in one of the tougher majors.

You can now add in commute time to/from your off campus apartment.

When I was at Tech in the 80's it wasn't that unusual to stay in the dorms your entire 4 years. At least Blacksburg is a fairly safe town so having your college freshman living in an off campus apartment isn't too terrible.

This happened to Scripps two years ago. Kids were put up 4-6 in 2-3 bedroom graduate housing 25min off campus. The bus was always late. They weren’t part of the community. Girls be PISSED.

And this year Northeastern did the same. Sent their Spring admits kids to Ireland for “study abroad” in Fall. When they got to campus in January, there was no housing so they were put in apartments 15min from campus. Talk about a waste of a year. Better off going to community college.

Northeastern has NUin - those “spring admits” are *suppose* to travel abroad their Fall semester. That’s literally the program every year.

That wasn’t the point. It is a money making scheme first off, because they aren’t even taking true classes in Ireland, and the kids are supposed to be guaranteed housing for Spring and they weren’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They bring cool speakers (Zadie Smith, etc.) music and theater to the boonies. There’s also an overwhelming choice of clubs and activities. Bigger problem is there’s not time to do a lot if you’re in one of the tougher majors.

You can now add in commute time to/from your off campus apartment.

When I was at Tech in the 80's it wasn't that unusual to stay in the dorms your entire 4 years. At least Blacksburg is a fairly safe town so having your college freshman living in an off campus apartment isn't too terrible.

This happened to Scripps two years ago. Kids were put up 4-6 in 2-3 bedroom graduate housing 25min off campus. The bus was always late. They weren’t part of the community. Girls be PISSED.

And this year Northeastern did the same. Sent their Spring admits kids to Ireland for “study abroad” in Fall. When they got to campus in January, there was no housing so they were put in apartments 15min from campus. Talk about a waste of a year. Better off going to community college.

Northeastern has NUin - those “spring admits” are *suppose* to travel abroad their Fall semester. That’s literally the program every year.

That wasn’t the point. It is a money making scheme first off, because they aren’t even taking true classes in Ireland, and the kids are supposed to be guaranteed housing for Spring and they weren’t.

NP: First off, my kid is a similar program at a different school. These are "real programs", thanks. The kids usually take credits towards gen ed, some toward their major. But, yes, it's a full plate, and not an easy load. My kid went to Australia. It was life-changing. Coming back to school is a tough transition, but they make life long friends with their cohort. They are guaranteed housing for the Spring. Our kid also applied to Northeastern but was not accepted - housing at NEU is in buildings and apartments on and off campus (owned by the school). It's an urban school, so apartments 15 minutes away from campus isn't a big deal.

Where do you get your information from?

[Anonymous]

Spring admits with a study abroad fall semester option is not uncommon. The schools are playing the numbers to fill the dorm rooms emptied by kids going on the (more common) spring semester abroad. It’s a real thing with real courses, even if they’re in Sydney or Rome or Washington DC.

But as this thread shows, the numbers game is a guess. And you can guess wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This really is upsetting to me (PP from earlier in thread with kids who will be applying next year.)

1. Almost every school that we’ve considered (certainly all of the state schools) have both required and guaranteed housing for freshman. My kids see that as a good thing. They definitely want to live on campus freshman year, and at least at this point were planning on at least sophomore year on campus as well. That Tech can no longer offer that is deeply frustrating. My kids have earned the test scores and grades and taken on the challenging coursework and extracurriculars to be good candidates for Tech. Now this school won’t be able to offer what is generally considered a expected feature: guaranteed housing for freshman. Will my students have to enroll at a slightly less competitive school, in order to get housing. It’s frustrating that these are the kinds of choices folks will be facing due to incredibly poor planning by Tech.

2. They will no doubt have to make the admissions next year even more competitive, to make up for the huge screw up this year. This major correction will mean the class of 2020 will have a ridiculously high hurdle to scale.

Grrr.

You sound extremely entitled. Many of us have kids who did everything expected of them to gain admittance to VT last year, but were rejected due to an incredibly competitive year. While we were disappointed, we didn't "expect" them to be admitted, or feel that they were somehow more deserving than other hardworking kids.

I think it's totally naturally to feel disappointed to see your kid work hard, earn the grades and test scores to be a competitive candidate only to find out that the goal posts have suddenly been moved and you are plain out of luck.

It would be like saving up for 5 years to buy a house and finally getting "enough" of a down payment together and suddenly having the bank say "Sorry, you don't have enough money. We now want to see 30% down." Yes, you have the option of buying a condo instead but you had really wanted the house.

Totally understand that and agree. However, don't forget just how many *other* kids are in exactly the same position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really is upsetting to me (PP from earlier in thread with kids who will be applying next year.)

1. Almost every school that we’ve considered (certainly all of the state schools) have both required and guaranteed housing for freshman. My kids see that as a good thing. They definitely want to live on campus freshman year, and at least at this point were planning on at least sophomore year on campus as well. That Tech can no longer offer that is deeply frustrating. My kids have earned the test scores and grades and taken on the challenging coursework and extracurriculars to be good candidates for Tech. Now this school won’t be able to offer what is generally considered a expected feature: guaranteed housing for freshman. Will my students have to enroll at a slightly less competitive school, in order to get housing. It’s frustrating that these are the kinds of choices folks will be facing due to incredibly poor planning by Tech.

2. They will no doubt have to make the admissions next year even more competitive, to make up for the huge screw up this year. This major correction will mean the class of 2020 will have a ridiculously high hurdle to scale.

Grrr.

You sound extremely entitled. Many of us have kids who did everything expected of them to gain admittance to VT last year, but were rejected due to an incredibly competitive year. While we were disappointed, we didn't "expect" them to be admitted, or feel that they were somehow more deserving than other hardworking kids.

I think it's totally naturally to feel disappointed to see your kid work hard, earn the grades and test scores to be a competitive candidate only to find out that the goal posts have suddenly been moved and you are plain out of luck.

It would be like saving up for 5 years to buy a house and finally getting "enough" of a down payment together and suddenly having the bank say "Sorry, you don't have enough money. We now want to see 30% down." Yes, you have the option of buying a condo instead but you had really wanted the house.

Totally understand that and agree. However, don't forget just how many *other* kids are in exactly the same position.

Sure. It sucks. The good thing is if you move into a condo with lots of other great people who worked hard to get there, it turns out to be a pretty good place to live

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They bring cool speakers (Zadie Smith, etc.) music and theater to the boonies. There’s also an overwhelming choice of clubs and activities. Bigger problem is there’s not time to do a lot if you’re in one of the tougher majors.

You can now add in commute time to/from your off campus apartment.

When I was at Tech in the 80's it wasn't that unusual to stay in the dorms your entire 4 years. At least Blacksburg is a fairly safe town so having your college freshman living in an off campus apartment isn't too terrible.

This happened to Scripps two years ago. Kids were put up 4-6 in 2-3 bedroom graduate housing 25min off campus. The bus was always late. They weren’t part of the community. Girls be PISSED.

And this year Northeastern did the same. Sent their Spring admits kids to Ireland for “study abroad” in Fall. When they got to campus in January, there was no housing so they were put in apartments 15min from campus. Talk about a waste of a year. Better off going to community college.

Northeastern has NUin - those “spring admits” are *suppose* to travel abroad their Fall semester. That’s literally the program every year.

That wasn’t the point. It is a money making scheme first off, because they aren’t even taking true classes in Ireland, and the kids are supposed to be guaranteed housing for Spring and they weren’t.

NP: First off, my kid is a similar program at a different school. These are "real programs", thanks. The kids usually take credits towards gen ed, some toward their major. But, yes, it's a full plate, and not an easy load. My kid went to Australia. It was life-changing. Coming back to school is a tough transition, but they make life long friends with their cohort. They are guaranteed housing for the Spring. Our kid also applied to Northeastern but was not accepted - housing at NEU is in buildings and apartments on and off campus (owned by the school). It's an urban school, so apartments 15 minutes away from campus isn't a big deal.

Where do you get your information from?

15 minute bus trip away from campus is a HUGE deal. I would never want that for my child. They don't have the same safety precautions in place as on campus. No dining hall nearby, and only the same group you went overseas with to hang out. I read this on CC in January when we were looking at this school for my junior. It was a huge issue. They felt very isolated and forgotten about. For some people that will pay or do anything to get their kid on a campus, I guess go for it. No thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really is upsetting to me (PP from earlier in thread with kids who will be applying next year.)

1. Almost every school that we’ve considered (certainly all of the state schools) have both required and guaranteed housing for freshman. My kids see that as a good thing. They definitely want to live on campus freshman year, and at least at this point were planning on at least sophomore year on campus as well. That Tech can no longer offer that is deeply frustrating. My kids have earned the test scores and grades and taken on the challenging coursework and extracurriculars to be good candidates for Tech. Now this school won’t be able to offer what is generally considered a expected feature: guaranteed housing for freshman. Will my students have to enroll at a slightly less competitive school, in order to get housing. It’s frustrating that these are the kinds of choices folks will be facing due to incredibly poor planning by Tech.

2. They will no doubt have to make the admissions next year even more competitive, to make up for the huge screw up this year. This major correction will mean the class of 2020 will have a ridiculously high hurdle to scale.

Grrr.

You sound extremely entitled. Many of us have kids who did everything expected of them to gain admittance to VT last year, but were rejected due to an incredibly competitive year. While we were disappointed, we didn't "expect" them to be admitted, or feel that they were somehow more deserving than other hardworking kids.

I think it's totally naturally to feel disappointed to see your kid work hard, earn the grades and test scores to be a competitive candidate only to find out that the goal posts have suddenly been moved and you are plain out of luck.

It would be like saving up for 5 years to buy a house and finally getting "enough" of a down payment together and suddenly having the bank say "Sorry, you don't have enough money. We now want to see 30% down." Yes, you have the option of buying a condo instead but you had really wanted the house.

Totally understand that and agree. However, don't forget just how many *other* kids are in exactly the same position.

Sure. It sucks. The good thing is if you move into a condo with lots of other great people who worked hard to get there, it turns out to be a pretty good place to live

We are talking about VT. It isn't hard to get in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They bring cool speakers (Zadie Smith, etc.) music and theater to the boonies. There’s also an overwhelming choice of clubs and activities. Bigger problem is there’s not time to do a lot if you’re in one of the tougher majors.

You can now add in commute time to/from your off campus apartment.

When I was at Tech in the 80's it wasn't that unusual to stay in the dorms your entire 4 years. At least Blacksburg is a fairly safe town so having your college freshman living in an off campus apartment isn't too terrible.

This happened to Scripps two years ago. Kids were put up 4-6 in 2-3 bedroom graduate housing 25min off campus. The bus was always late. They weren’t part of the community. Girls be PISSED.

And this year Northeastern did the same. Sent their Spring admits kids to Ireland for “study abroad” in Fall. When they got to campus in January, there was no housing so they were put in apartments 15min from campus. Talk about a waste of a year. Better off going to community college.

Northeastern has NUin - those “spring admits” are *suppose* to travel abroad their Fall semester. That’s literally the program every year.

It makes a lot of money for the school and avoids getting your kid's stats on the Fall admit rates. Win win.

[Anonymous]

UPDATE: Freshman class is currently 8,026. They are hoping 500+ will withdraw.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/virginia-tech/2141529-note-from-the-director-regarding-the-fall-2019-freshman-waiting-list-official.html#latest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UPDATE: Freshman class is currently 8,026. They are hoping 500+ will withdraw.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/virginia-tech/2141529-note-from-the-director-regarding-the-fall-2019-freshman-waiting-list-official.html#latest

Tech used to be so good at math. Wut happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They bring cool speakers (Zadie Smith, etc.) music and theater to the boonies. There’s also an overwhelming choice of clubs and activities. Bigger problem is there’s not time to do a lot if you’re in one of the tougher majors.

You can now add in commute time to/from your off campus apartment.

When I was at Tech in the 80's it wasn't that unusual to stay in the dorms your entire 4 years. At least Blacksburg is a fairly safe town so having your college freshman living in an off campus apartment isn't too terrible.

This happened to Scripps two years ago. Kids were put up 4-6 in 2-3 bedroom graduate housing 25min off campus. The bus was always late. They weren’t part of the community. Girls be PISSED.

And this year Northeastern did the same. Sent their Spring admits kids to Ireland for “study abroad” in Fall. When they got to campus in January, there was no housing so they were put in apartments 15min from campus. Talk about a waste of a year. Better off going to community college.

Northeastern has NUin - those “spring admits” are *suppose* to travel abroad their Fall semester. That’s literally the program every year.

It makes a lot of money for the school and avoids getting your kid's stats on the Fall admit rates. Win win.

eh, the study abroad programs are legitimate. And I can totally see why the first half of the kids study abroad the first semester while the others take classes on campus and then they switch.

It actually seems like an organized way of handling it and it gives the benefit of the program to the greatest number of students possible. I'm not against these programs at all, but they do cost money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UPDATE: Freshman class is currently 8,026. They are hoping 500+ will withdraw.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/virginia-tech/2141529-note-from-the-director-regarding-the-fall-2019-freshman-waiting-list-official.html#latest

Tech used to be so good at math. Wut happened?

Their own graduates are running the department I guess