incidents at W schools disproportionately represented in media/DCUM?

[Anonymous]

We know the W's are the best schools because we tell ourselves this all the time!

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

NP, and you have to consider what the other "threats" are that don't get reported: how much anxiety, depression, suicide, substance use? How stressed are the kids? Every school has its trade-offs; think about which of the negatives are most likely to affect your particular kids.

I wouldn't touch Whitman with a ten-foot pole.

Those are individual issues so if our DD is facing them, we can get her help. In other words, we can control it.

What we can't control is weapons, drugs, and assaults in the school, since our DD is more likely to be a victim then a perpetuator of them. So I'd take the option where those are less likely, based on statistics.

It's the same reason we prefer to live in a lower-crime neighborhood.

I'm guessing you don't have much experience with mental health if you dismiss it so casually as something you can control. You can't control a pervasively stressful school culture.

Also: substance use is more more (MORE) common in wealthier schools than in less wealthy ones.

Also: it's unlikely that your child would be a victim of assault unless she's hanging out with rough crowds. These incidents aren't random, typically. It's part of what makes the avoidance so galling; the Post had a great (if painful) article on the kids targeted by gangs in the DC area: Central American immigrants, often undocumented. So, for privileged white parents to think their kids will be the targets of this crime is pretty appalling.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

NP, and you have to consider what the other "threats" are that don't get reported: how much anxiety, depression, suicide, substance use? How stressed are the kids? Every school has its trade-offs; think about which of the negatives are most likely to affect your particular kids.

I wouldn't touch Whitman with a ten-foot pole.

Those are individual issues so if our DD is facing them, we can get her help. In other words, we can control it.

What we can't control is weapons, drugs, and assaults in the school, since our DD is more likely to be a victim then a perpetuator of them. So I'd take the option where those are less likely, based on statistics.

It's the same reason we prefer to live in a lower-crime neighborhood.

Same here and, something previous PP apparently doesn't know, schools with higher safety problems most often also have higher mental health problems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Always amazed that there are so many people who think it's so unfair that white kids don't get to say that word.

Always amazed that black people think that you can punish one side but not the other. Test scores not good enough-let em in. Not enough money-let them live there anyway. Data makes us look bad, that’s racist. Too many criminals, system is racist too.

If you want a social construct where one side can use it and the other can’t what ever, still means the same thing. But legal is black and white, schools either allow it or don’t. And who wants to bet the poor kids at Kennedy are going around using the N word left and right? I’ll take that bet

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Always amazed that there are so many people who think it's so unfair that white kids don't get to say that word.

Always amazed that black people think that you can punish one side but not the other. Test scores not good enough-let em in. Not enough money-let them live there anyway. Data makes us look bad, that’s racist. Too many criminals, system is racist too.

If you want a social construct where one side can use it and the other can’t what ever, still means the same thing. But legal is black and white, schools either allow it or don’t. And who wants to bet the poor kids at Kennedy are going around using the N word left and right? I’ll take that bet

Doo you believe that crack addicts are treated the same as cocaine addicts?

[Anonymous]

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Show me school incident data -- would love to see that if MCPS reports it.

I'd wager that there are more incidents of a serious nature in schools that are in areas with a higher crime rate, compared to schools in an area with a lower crime rate. Is there reason to believe otherwise? I guess if we have MCPS incident data we could check to be certain.

Do you even live in Montgomery County?

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

You think the principal at W is calling police over drugs? Or you believe there are no drugs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

Your daughter is more likely too be raped by a white guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

Your daughter is more likely too be raped by a white guy.

Neither Wheaton nor Whitman had any reported rapes in the most recent report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Always amazed that there are so many people who think it's so unfair that white kids don't get to say that word.

Always amazed that black people think that you can punish one side but not the other. Test scores not good enough-let em in. Not enough money-let them live there anyway. Data makes us look bad, that’s racist. Too many criminals, system is racist too.

If you want a social construct where one side can use it and the other can’t what ever, still means the same thing. But legal is black and white, schools either allow it or don’t. And who wants to bet the poor kids at Kennedy are going around using the N word left and right? I’ll take that bet

Doo you believe that crack addicts are treated the same as cocaine addicts?

Crimes involving crack tend to be more violent, including crimes committed by the addicts, compared to cocaine. As with all crimes, violence is an aggravating factor leading to more severe punishment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

Your daughter is more likely too be raped by a white guy.

Neither Wheaton nor Whitman had any reported rapes in the most recent report.

You think they report every rape on the weekends... or any.

She probably won’t even tell you.

Bret’s and Squis are everywhere in W schools.

Have you seen 13 reasons... if not you should educate yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Always amazed that there are so many people who think it's so unfair that white kids don't get to say that word.

Always amazed that black people think that you can punish one side but not the other. Test scores not good enough-let em in. Not enough money-let them live there anyway. Data makes us look bad, that’s racist. Too many criminals, system is racist too.

If you want a social construct where one side can use it and the other can’t what ever, still means the same thing. But legal is black and white, schools either allow it or don’t. And who wants to bet the poor kids at Kennedy are going around using the N word left and right? I’ll take that bet

Doo you believe that crack addicts are treated the same as cocaine addicts?

Crimes involving crack tend to be more violent, including crimes committed by the addicts, compared to cocaine. As with all crimes, violence is an aggravating factor leading to more severe punishment.

+1.

It's amazing folks play dumb about this so often

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s funny to see white people claim that their story is disproportionately covered in the news.

Why? When was the last time WP covered a white person being shot by the cops or a white person being called a honkey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Always amazed that there are so many people who think it's so unfair that white kids don't get to say that word.

Always amazed that black people think that you can punish one side but not the other. Test scores not good enough-let em in. Not enough money-let them live there anyway. Data makes us look bad, that’s racist. Too many criminals, system is racist too.

If you want a social construct where one side can use it and the other can’t what ever, still means the same thing. But legal is black and white, schools either allow it or don’t. And who wants to bet the poor kids at Kennedy are going around using the N word left and right? I’ll take that bet

Doo you believe that crack addicts are treated the same as cocaine addicts?

Crimes involving crack tend to be more violent, including crimes committed by the addicts, compared to cocaine. As with all crimes, violence is an aggravating factor leading to more severe punishment.

No they are not. There have been hundreds of studies done about that.

You just believe black people are more violent and associate crack with black and have drawn your own conclusion ... which is literally the definition of racist.

You probably think declaring bankruptcy is a fine way to screw people out of money too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

Your daughter is more likely too be raped by a white guy.

Neither Wheaton nor Whitman had any reported rapes in the most recent report.

You think they report every rape on the weekends... or any.

She probably won’t even tell you.

Bret’s and Squis are everywhere in W schools.

Have you seen 13 reasons... if not you should educate yourself.

The schools generally don't report to police incidents that happened during the weekend, off school grounds. Those show up in the county crime reports instead, already cited earlier in this thread.

And in those reports, you can see the Bethesda (2nd district) has a lower rate for all violent crimes compared to every other district in MoCo.

So, Bethesda district has a lower crime rate, and Bethesda schools have a lower crime rate, than elsewhere in MoCo.

Sure, it could be that people are underreporting in that one district, and all other districts are not.. but I just don't think that's likely. Perhaps violent crimes, both in school and outside of it, are just lower in Bethesda?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny to see white people claim that their story is disproportionately covered in the news.

Why? When was the last time WP covered a white person being shot by the cops or a white person being called a honkey?

It’s funny you don’t understand that they only report black crime and white missing girls.

You only realized that papers are mean to your poor rich child but have no clue how the affect others.

You are small minded.