incidents at W schools disproportionately represented in media/DCUM?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Who said this at Kennedy? Is this just something you assume because you're racist or do you base this on actual evidence?

This.

I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Who said this at Kennedy? Is this just something you assume because you're racist or do you base this on actual evidence?

This.

I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.

I am not saying that I know otherwise, but just with common sense, how can you guarantee that? Do you follow every Kennedy student every minute (how many of "YOU" are there if "YOU" really want to do that)?

Making exaggerating statements like that is not going to prove it is more correct (or, more wrong). It only tells people about the lack of credibility of what said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Who said this at Kennedy? Is this just something you assume because you're racist or do you base this on actual evidence?

This.

I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.

I am not saying that I know otherwise, but just with common sense, how can you guarantee that? Do you follow every Kennedy student every minute (how many of "YOU" are there if "YOU" really want to do that)?

Making exaggerating statements like that is not going to prove it is more correct (or, more wrong). It only tells people about the lack of credibility of what said.

What you call common sense most people just call racism.

[Anonymous]

Everything about W schools is over-represented in DCUM. I think it's because a larger percentage of W school parents log in regularly. Not sure about media coverage overall, but it may stem from reporters seeing info on forums like DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything about W schools is over-represented in DCUM. I think it's because a larger percentage of W school parents log in regularly. Not sure about media coverage overall, but it may stem from reporters seeing info on forums like DCUM.

You don't see other schools on the front page of the posts for this sort of thing and if it happened at any of them it would be there as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Surely there are all kinds of things happening also at other MCPS high schools all throughout the county? Are the things happening at Whitman and Churchill (for example) being talked about in the media and DCUM because the parents and students are more likely to make a noise about it? I am considering leaving a W cluster so my kids won't be subject to a bunch of jerks, but wonder if similar stuff is happening in all schools, just not publicized as much, or if it's a different flavor.

Absolutely. My daughter was harassed and called a "stupid white bitch" and the administration did nothing when we brought it to their attention except claim that she was lying. Hard to imagine similar reactions if the races had been reversed.

In my opinion, the disrespect, harassment, and bullying are two sides of the same coin. At Churchill, kids are targeted for anything - race, gender, disability - anything a child can use in a derogatory manner to target another student. It is a school climate problem that can be traced back to middle school and elementary school. More can be done if all school administrators were proactive in creating understanding and respect in school. Definitely, more training and discipline are needed to weed out employees who are poor role models for students. Finally, schools need to do a better job working to protect students who come forward to report acts of bullying and hate. Thus far, there is no comprehensive plan to improve the school climate at Churchill or the cluster to target students and staff who are the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surely there are all kinds of things happening also at other MCPS high schools all throughout the county? Are the things happening at Whitman and Churchill (for example) being talked about in the media and DCUM because the parents and students are more likely to make a noise about it? I am considering leaving a W cluster so my kids won't be subject to a bunch of jerks, but wonder if similar stuff is happening in all schools, just not publicized as much, or if it's a different flavor.

Dear OP,

My child went to Einstein. A school that W parents say is full of gang and violence, why? Could it be that they had an experience of gang violence at Einstein or any of these schools? No it’s because these schools are full with brown kids therefore they are full of violence. My child was exposed to diversity at Einstein, there were no segregation and my child loved that school. She was apart of the VAC and use to tell me about kids from these up-county schools and the attitudes they brought to the program. A couple of years ago, I went to a dance competition to support my daughters friend, Einstein section was next to Churchill and I over heard a conversation about the teams competing. Someone asked “ Is Einstein any good?” And the other parent replied with “ No you know black girls can’t point their feet.” I was in disgust, I had to leave the gymnasium. I think it’s time to shed some light about the racism in these W schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Who said this at Kennedy? Is this just something you assume because you're racist or do you base this on actual evidence?

This.

I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.

I am not saying that I know otherwise, but just with common sense, how can you guarantee that? Do you follow every Kennedy student every minute (how many of "YOU" are there if "YOU" really want to do that)?

Making exaggerating statements like that is not going to prove it is more correct (or, more wrong). It only tells people about the lack of credibility of what said.

What you call common sense most people just call racism.

Oh? So you are saying anyone finding it impossible for a single person to "guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever." is a racist?

That might be what you think, and that explains why some people could easily say something that clearly not true (like: "I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.")
Because in the minds of people like you, FACTS do not matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes when a kid at Whitman uses the N word people react like when a public official says it, when a kid at Kennedy uses it people just roll their eyes and say that is what Kennedy kids do. We govern our schools with the same expectations we govern the classes

Who said this at Kennedy? Is this just something you assume because you're racist or do you base this on actual evidence?

This.

I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.

I am not saying that I know otherwise, but just with common sense, how can you guarantee that? Do you follow every Kennedy student every minute (how many of "YOU" are there if "YOU" really want to do that)?

Making exaggerating statements like that is not going to prove it is more correct (or, more wrong). It only tells people about the lack of credibility of what said.

What you call common sense most people just call racism.

Oh? So you are saying anyone finding it impossible for a single person to "guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever." is a racist?

That might be what you think, and that explains why some people could easily say something that clearly not true (like: "I can guarantee that no kid at Kennedy has ever used any offensive word ever.")
Because in the minds of people like you, FACTS do not matter.

These people can easily say that they "guarantee" things that they don't know for sure (or, maybe the PP can tell us how he/she knows that not even one kid in Kennedy has EVER used ANY offensive word? Maybe he/she is superman/superwoman who can browse through all events that happened in the past?)

For example, I don't know for sure if any kids in Kennedy has ever said used any offensive word ever, then I am not going to say "I guarantee it".
But for some people, as long as they want, they can say they "guarantee it" without the ability to really "guarantee" that.

That is called empty promise. Is is worth nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, move to parts of the county where they're too busy dealing with students who are gang members and getting pregnant to worry about things like a racial epithet scrawled on a chalkboard...

I’m an MCPS teacher and no, I do not think this is happening in other non-W schools and being swept under the rug. And comments like the one quoted above are what’s wrong here. Pray tell, PP, where do you live and where do your children attend school? How many kids do you personally know who attend these oh so terrible schools? How many teachers do you personally know at these schools?

Or we could just look at crime statistics:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/POL/Resources/Files/04-29-19.pdf

Pick a week.. any week. More violent crimes like strong arm robberies happened in every district except 2D (Bethesda).

Here's a list of every weekly crime report, so you can see it's not just last week:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/crime/summaries.html

Also based on the race of the suspects, we need more diversity in our criminals....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, move to parts of the county where they're too busy dealing with students who are gang members and getting pregnant to worry about things like a racial epithet scrawled on a chalkboard...

I’m an MCPS teacher and no, I do not think this is happening in other non-W schools and being swept under the rug. And comments like the one quoted above are what’s wrong here. Pray tell, PP, where do you live and where do your children attend school? How many kids do you personally know who attend these oh so terrible schools? How many teachers do you personally know at these schools?

Or we could just look at crime statistics:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/POL/Resources/Files/04-29-19.pdf

Pick a week.. any week. More violent crimes like strong arm robberies happened in every district except 2D (Bethesda).

Here's a list of every weekly crime report, so you can see it's not just last week:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/crime/summaries.html

Also based on the race of the suspects, we need more diversity in our criminals....

+1.

But, since we prefer to ignore the elephant in the room, let's talk about chickensh!t elsewhere!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Media loves to highlight it because story will sell. I am in RM cluster and attended one boundary analysis meeting in QO HS. I was disgusted to see an article in Bethesda beat depicting parents in that meeting as bunch of racist by cherrypicking quotes.

I started thinking why they did it. I think , media want to report something controversial to get more eyeballs. I don't have much clue about what's going on in Churchill or Whitman to be honest, but it won't surprise me if media is playing a similar role.

The role of the media today is not to report. It is something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, move to parts of the county where they're too busy dealing with students who are gang members and getting pregnant to worry about things like a racial epithet scrawled on a chalkboard...

I’m an MCPS teacher and no, I do not think this is happening in other non-W schools and being swept under the rug. And comments like the one quoted above are what’s wrong here. Pray tell, PP, where do you live and where do your children attend school? How many kids do you personally know who attend these oh so terrible schools? How many teachers do you personally know at these schools?

Or we could just look at crime statistics:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/POL/Resources/Files/04-29-19.pdf

Pick a week.. any week. More violent crimes like strong arm robberies happened in every district except 2D (Bethesda).

Here's a list of every weekly crime report, so you can see it's not just last week:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/crime/summaries.html

Also based on the race of the suspects, we need more diversity in our criminals....

What does this prove?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, move to parts of the county where they're too busy dealing with students who are gang members and getting pregnant to worry about things like a racial epithet scrawled on a chalkboard...

I’m an MCPS teacher and no, I do not think this is happening in other non-W schools and being swept under the rug. And comments like the one quoted above are what’s wrong here. Pray tell, PP, where do you live and where do your children attend school? How many kids do you personally know who attend these oh so terrible schools? How many teachers do you personally know at these schools?

Or we could just look at crime statistics:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/POL/Resources/Files/04-29-19.pdf

Pick a week.. any week. More violent crimes like strong arm robberies happened in every district except 2D (Bethesda).

Here's a list of every weekly crime report, so you can see it's not just last week:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/crime/summaries.html

Also based on the race of the suspects, we need more diversity in our criminals....

What does this prove?????

It proves that the PP doesn't understand the difference between school data and crime data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Media loves to highlight it because story will sell. I am in RM cluster and attended one boundary analysis meeting in QO HS. I was disgusted to see an article in Bethesda beat depicting parents in that meeting as bunch of racist by cherrypicking quotes.

I started thinking why they did it. I think , media want to report something controversial to get more eyeballs. I don't have much clue about what's going on in Churchill or Whitman to be honest, but it won't surprise me if media is playing a similar role.

The role of the media today is not to report. It is something else.

Indeed.

It's half entertainment half fake outrage.

Must work to attract attention.