incidents at W schools disproportionately represented in media/DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Of course the W schools are overly criticized. Hard working, high achieving students are now un-American.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course the W schools are overly criticized. Hard working, high achieving students are now un-American.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, move to parts of the county where they're too busy dealing with students who are gang members and getting pregnant to worry about things like a racial epithet scrawled on a chalkboard...

I’m an MCPS teacher and no, I do not think this is happening in other non-W schools and being swept under the rug. And comments like the one quoted above are what’s wrong here. Pray tell, PP, where do you live and where do your children attend school? How many kids do you personally know who attend these oh so terrible schools? How many teachers do you personally know at these schools?

Or we could just look at crime statistics:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/POL/Resources/Files/04-29-19.pdf

Pick a week.. any week. More violent crimes like strong arm robberies happened in every district except 2D (Bethesda).

Here's a list of every weekly crime report, so you can see it's not just last week:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/crime/summaries.html

Also based on the race of the suspects, we need more diversity in our criminals....

What does this prove?????

It proves that the PP doesn't understand the difference between school data and crime data.

Show me school incident data -- would love to see that if MCPS reports it.

I'd wager that there are more incidents of a serious nature in schools that are in areas with a higher crime rate, compared to schools in an area with a lower crime rate. Is there reason to believe otherwise? I guess if we have MCPS incident data we could check to be certain.

[Anonymous]

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Show me school incident data -- would love to see that if MCPS reports it.

I'd wager that there are more incidents of a serious nature in schools that are in areas with a higher crime rate, compared to schools in an area with a lower crime rate. Is there reason to believe otherwise? I guess if we have MCPS incident data we could check to be certain.

Do you even live in Montgomery County?

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, move to parts of the county where they're too busy dealing with students who are gang members and getting pregnant to worry about things like a racial epithet scrawled on a chalkboard...

I’m an MCPS teacher and no, I do not think this is happening in other non-W schools and being swept under the rug. And comments like the one quoted above are what’s wrong here. Pray tell, PP, where do you live and where do your children attend school? How many kids do you personally know who attend these oh so terrible schools? How many teachers do you personally know at these schools?

Or we could just look at crime statistics:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/POL/Resources/Files/04-29-19.pdf

Pick a week.. any week. More violent crimes like strong arm robberies happened in every district except 2D (Bethesda).

Here's a list of every weekly crime report, so you can see it's not just last week:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/crime/summaries.html

Also based on the race of the suspects, we need more diversity in our criminals....

What does this prove?????

It proves that the PP doesn't understand the difference between school data and crime data.

Show me school incident data -- would love to see that if MCPS reports it.

I'd wager that there are more incidents of a serious nature in schools that are in areas with a higher crime rate, compared to schools in an area with a lower crime rate. Is there reason to believe otherwise? I guess if we have MCPS incident data we could check to be certain.

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[Anonymous]

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Show me school incident data -- would love to see that if MCPS reports it.

I'd wager that there are more incidents of a serious nature in schools that are in areas with a higher crime rate, compared to schools in an area with a lower crime rate. Is there reason to believe otherwise? I guess if we have MCPS incident data we could check to be certain.

Do you even live in Montgomery County?

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

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Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

Aw, are the W-school people having their feelings hurt because people are saying negative things about their schools? Boo hoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course the W schools are overly criticized. Hard working, high achieving students are now un-American.

and don't forget all the racist hideous incidents that don't occur at other schools

[Anonymous]

Op here again. Is there a comparable culture, or do bullying, harrassment, racial incidents happen equally at the private schools in the W clusters? Presumably they are drawing from the same geographic areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here again. Is there a comparable culture, or do bullying, harrassment, racial incidents happen equally at the private schools in the W clusters? Presumably they are drawing from the same geographic areas.

Actually they may not be. I'd say a lot of people within the W clusters would be less inclined to send thier kids to private school -- it would be people living in clusters where the schools aren't great that need to opt for private school.

I drive by one of the private schools in the W cluster area on my way to work each morning, and there are plenty of VA and DC license plates lined up at drop-off.

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Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

NP, and you have to consider what the other "threats" are that don't get reported: how much anxiety, depression, suicide, substance use? How stressed are the kids? Every school has its trade-offs; think about which of the negatives are most likely to affect your particular kids.

I wouldn't touch Whitman with a ten-foot pole.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

Our kids are not high school age yet, but I think we'll stay in the Whitman cluster. I think my DD is going to be a lot safer there compared to Wheaton.

NP, and you have to consider what the other "threats" are that don't get reported: how much anxiety, depression, suicide, substance use? How stressed are the kids? Every school has its trade-offs; think about which of the negatives are most likely to affect your particular kids.

I wouldn't touch Whitman with a ten-foot pole.

Those are individual issues so if our DD is facing them, we can get her help. In other words, we can control it.

What we can't control is weapons, drugs, and assaults in the school, since our DD is more likely to be a victim then a perpetuator of them. So I'd take the option where those are less likely, based on statistics.

It's the same reason we prefer to live in a lower-crime neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

I think W issues/biases/info are over reported on DCUM because W schools are over represented here.

[Anonymous]

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Show me school incident data -- would love to see that if MCPS reports it.

I'd wager that there are more incidents of a serious nature in schools that are in areas with a higher crime rate, compared to schools in an area with a lower crime rate. Is there reason to believe otherwise? I guess if we have MCPS incident data we could check to be certain.

Do you even live in Montgomery County?

Yes, and with kids at MCPS. Now, where's the incident data?

Found the incident data:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/SafetyGlance/currentyear/SafetyGlance2018.pdf

page 434 (PDF page 450) shows out of school suspension rates by gender and race. Again, we need more diversity in who gets suspended.

Then it's per high school on preceding pages.

Whitman in on page 405 (PDF page 422) and had 1 serious incident where police were called -- a physical or verbal threat.

Wheaton is on the page before that, with 9 serious incident calls: 4 drugs, 2 threats, 3 weapons.

They call the other schools by names like weedton, crime'stein