Kindergarten: my son comes back full of religion stories from a classmate. How to handle it?

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Anonymous wrote:What is there to handle? Your kid will hear lots of things from classmates in school that you may not have chosen to discuss with him. If you want to keep him in a bubble, homeschool.

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How would you feel if my child told your child that there is no God? It’s the exact same principle. I’m sure you’d be complaining bitterly.

I wouldn't "feel" anything, PP. I would tell my child that your child is wrong, and that we feel very sad for him, but that's the end of it. No, I would not "complain bitterly." That's what people like you do.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is trolling TF out of this forum. Don't engage.

Pp is not Op. Lots of people think religion is stupid. Sorry to burst your bubble!

I said what I said.

Do people really have no idea how to instill YOUR values in your kid, or do you need to turn to an anonymous message board for everything? Teach your kid what matters to you, period.

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Anonymous wrote:We are atheists. My dc has come home with religious stories before. I usually listen and say what an interesting story! He will drop it and forget about it fairly quickly.

I did find out that when he was younger, his carpool would listen to bible stories on the way to school. I didn’t say anything oto my son but did politely remind the carpool parents to refrain from listening to religious stories and trying to “save” my child.

As long as no adult is trying to teach your child, they’ll soon forget.

Wait a minute - you had the balls to tell another parent what they could and couldn’t listen to in their car?!? Holy sh!t this one takes the cake.

You don’t like what they listen to, you leave the carpool. End of story.

Yes I don’t want my kids to listen to religious propaganda.

You sound unbelievably intolerant.

Should I listen to podcasts about how religion is stupid? Would that have okay with you?

Absolutely ok with me. You are 100% allowed to listen to whatever you want in your car. If I don’t like it, I look for another carpool option for my kid. But in this case, I wouldn’t pull my kid because I don’t mind her being exposed to other schools of thought.

And please please explain how I am the one who is intolerant.

It’s called FREEDOM FROM religion. You’re entitled not to hear the ravings of some religious nutcase. This is not hard to understand, but I’m unsurprised that you’re struggling with this concept.

DP. I don’t think freedom “from” religion is a thing...? And no you’re not “entitled” to not hear things.

Yes. Yes, it is a thing. A thing called the Constitution. But it applies to the government, not the average kindergartner or carpooler. The Constitution guarantees that there will be no laws respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The govt cannot force you to believe or practice but there is no right to be free from other people talking about their beliefs. OP will have to parent her child on this one. And the carpooling atheist has no right to a Bible-free carpool. Find your kid another ride.

Okay thanks - are you an 8th grader that just learned about the constitution? Of course I know about the first ammendment. And (just like you actually said yourself...?) freedom FROM religion is not a thing. Meaning it is not one of your rights to never encounter anything religious.

What is it that you are arguing? That a parent who disagrees with what another parent plays in their car during carpool should be able to force that parent to play something else if you don't like it? Is a carpool a binding contract? No, if you don't like it, find someone else to chauffeur your kid around who plays stuff more to your liking, THAT is your right.

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Anonymous wrote:We are atheists. My dc has come home with religious stories before. I usually listen and say what an interesting story! He will drop it and forget about it fairly quickly.

I did find out that when he was younger, his carpool would listen to bible stories on the way to school. I didn’t say anything oto my son but did politely remind the carpool parents to refrain from listening to religious stories and trying to “save” my child.

As long as no adult is trying to teach your child, they’ll soon forget.

Wait a minute - you had the balls to tell another parent what they could and couldn’t listen to in their car?!? Holy sh!t this one takes the cake.

You don’t like what they listen to, you leave the carpool. End of story.

Yes I don’t want my kids to listen to religious propaganda.

You sound unbelievably intolerant.

Should I listen to podcasts about how religion is stupid? Would that have okay with you?

Absolutely ok with me. You are 100% allowed to listen to whatever you want in your car. If I don’t like it, I look for another carpool option for my kid. But in this case, I wouldn’t pull my kid because I don’t mind her being exposed to other schools of thought.

And please please explain how I am the one who is intolerant.

It’s called FREEDOM FROM religion. You’re entitled not to hear the ravings of some religious nutcase. This is not hard to understand, but I’m unsurprised that you’re struggling with this concept.

DP. I don’t think freedom “from” religion is a thing...? And no you’re not “entitled” to not hear things.

Yes. Yes, it is a thing. A thing called the Constitution. But it applies to the government, not the average kindergartner or carpooler. The Constitution guarantees that there will be no laws respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The govt cannot force you to believe or practice but there is no right to be free from other people talking about their beliefs. OP will have to parent her child on this one. And the carpooling atheist has no right to a Bible-free carpool. Find your kid another ride.

Okay thanks - are you an 8th grader that just learned about the constitution? Of course I know about the first ammendment. And (just like you actually said yourself...?) freedom FROM religion is not a thing. Meaning it is not one of your rights to never encounter anything religious.

What is it that you are arguing? That a parent who disagrees with what another parent plays in their car during carpool should be able to force that parent to play something else if you don't like it? Is a carpool a binding contract? No, if you don't like it, find someone else to chauffeur your kid around who plays stuff more to your liking, THAT is your right.

No, I’m a DP, and I basically agree with you, except it is annoying that you think you discovered the constitution, and also you’re wrong about the phrase/concept “freedom FROM religion.”

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Anonymous wrote:What is there to handle? Your kid will hear lots of things from classmates in school that you may not have chosen to discuss with him. If you want to keep him in a bubble, homeschool.

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How would you feel if my child told your child that there is no God? It’s the exact same principle. I’m sure you’d be complaining bitterly.

NP. I would not. Kids have a right to talk about their families and interests on the playground. I’d only complain if a public school teacher was promoting his or her views on any religion or lack there of. We’re active Catholics. DD’s closest friends are a Muslim boy and a girl with two atheist moms.

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Anonymous wrote:While the State (of which public schools are a part) cannot espouse one particular religion or force people to practice a religion, they can and do discuss religion and teach what various religions believe and various traditions and celebrations of religions. It is not the case that public schools are supposed to pretend religion doesn't exist (StayPuff Marshmallow Man help us if we graduated millions of kids with that level of ignorance), nor do individual students check their right to free speech at the door (which obviously does not include hate speech and a host of other litigated item and rights school kids don't have). Hopefully your public school will teach your kids these basic tenets of civics.

This is all very different from trying to convert a 4 year old but if you feel smart for two seconds I am so happy for you.

There’s is a very big difference in talking about origin stories versus telling a kid about the Bible, Christianity, and not acting like there are other options. I have told my kids that some people waste their time with religion. They know this. But they’re polite enough not to impose their beliefs on others.

And I’m sorry but if I was listening to books on tape that explained that religious people were idiots, I’m certain one of you intolerant types would be upset about that.

And if our school decides to teach about world religions and origin stories, they sure as $hit need to make sure to include a section where they also detail how many of us feel religion is just another oppressor.

PS- is it oh so Christian to call people names? How... unsurprising.

Hard to tell who you are responding to? There is neither intolerance, espousing of religion or name calling in the post you are responding to.

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Anonymous wrote:What is there to handle? Your kid will hear lots of things from classmates in school that you may not have chosen to discuss with him. If you want to keep him in a bubble, homeschool.

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How would you feel if my child told your child that there is no God? It’s the exact same principle. I’m sure you’d be complaining bitterly.

I don't believe in God and one of my kid's friends at school/ aftercare talks to him about God, so he started talking about it at home. I just explain that different people believe in different things. I tell him what I believe in, and that he will be free chose his believes as he gets older and can form his own opinion. No big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:What is there to handle? Your kid will hear lots of things from classmates in school that you may not have chosen to discuss with him. If you want to keep him in a bubble, homeschool.

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How would you feel if my child told your child that there is no God? It’s the exact same principle. I’m sure you’d be complaining bitterly.

I don't believe in God and one of my kid's friends at school/ aftercare talks to him about God, so he started talking about it at home. I just explain that different people believe in different things. I tell him what I believe in, and that he will be free chose his believes as he gets older and can form his own opinion. No big deal.

Oh and my kid also learns about sex from the same kid...so two for the price of one LOL

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Different people believe in different things. Your classmate's family believes in x. We don't.

If it was the teacher talking to the students about his/her religion, that would be a problem. But kids sharing among themselves, it's just peers sharing details about their home life.

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Does your school have chickens on the playground? That might be the problem

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I tell my children that stupid people are religious but it’s not nice to point that out to them. Your kid can talk about religion all they want ... but my kid is going to know they’re stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I tell my children that stupid people are religious but it’s not nice to point that out to them. Your kid can talk about religion all they want ... but my kid is going to know they’re stupid.

Wow...um...okay. How respectful and high minded of you.

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Anonymous wrote:I tell my children that stupid people are religious but it’s not nice to point that out to them. Your kid can talk about religion all they want ... but my kid is going to know they’re stupid.

Why are you threatened by the fact that your kids might embrace religion?

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Anonymous wrote:I tell my children that stupid people are religious but it’s not nice to point that out to them. Your kid can talk about religion all they want ... but my kid is going to know they’re stupid.

Why are you threatened by the fact that your kids might embrace religion?

Religion has been used to justify all sorts of violence, slavery, oppression, pedophelia, racism, sexism, etc.

Why wouldn’t I be concerned?