No no no! YOU are the one struggling with this concept! PP is the SMART one. |
I fully understand the first amendment and what it does and does not restrict. And it has never and will never prevent a child from telling religious stories on the playground or listening to religious things in a private car. I know we now live in an idiocracy, but please take your stupidity elsewhere. You are embarrassing yourself and your gene pool. Poor kids. |
| I'd treat it the same as if he's coming home and telling you the plot of Star Wars as if it was real life. "That's nice dear, did you play kick ball today?" |
Woosh! There goes my sarcasm. I am in your side, PP, I promise you. Freedom from religion postor is a moron. |
Yes. Yes, it is a thing. A thing called the Constitution. But it applies to the government, not the average kindergartner or carpooler. The Constitution guarantees that there will be no laws respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The govt cannot force you to believe or practice but there is no right to be free from other people talking about their beliefs. OP will have to parent her child on this one. And the carpooling atheist has no right to a Bible-free carpool. Find your kid another ride. |
Sorry. The idiocracy can be strong here and I missed the sarcasm. |
No problem. Sometimes it’s hard to tell. But PP is one of those straightforward morons, I’d say
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Okay thanks - are you an 8th grader that just learned about the constitution? Of course I know about the first ammendment. And (just like you actually said yourself...?) freedom FROM religion is not a thing. Meaning it is not one of your rights to never encounter anything religious. |
Can I be there when she finds out her kid will learn about all religions during middle school?
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| While the State (of which public schools are a part) cannot espouse one particular religion or force people to practice a religion, they can and do discuss religion and teach what various religions believe and various traditions and celebrations of religions. It is not the case that public schools are supposed to pretend religion doesn't exist (StayPuff Marshmallow Man help us if we graduated millions of kids with that level of ignorance), nor do individual students check their right to free speech at the door (which obviously does not include hate speech and a host of other litigated item and rights school kids don't have). Hopefully your public school will teach your kids these basic tenets of civics. |
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Wake up call... a chunk of the 4th grade curriculum at many public schools includes an exploration of religions. My DC who attends a public charter did a project where he had to make up an origin story of his own.
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This is all very different from trying to convert a 4 year old but if you feel smart for two seconds I am so happy for you. There’s is a very big difference in talking about origin stories versus telling a kid about the Bible, Christianity, and not acting like there are other options. I have told my kids that some people waste their time with religion. They know this. But they’re polite enough not to impose their beliefs on others. And I’m sorry but if I was listening to books on tape that explained that religious people were idiots, I’m certain one of you intolerant types would be upset about that. And if our school decides to teach about world religions and origin stories, they sure as $hit need to make sure to include a section where they also detail how many of us feel religion is just another oppressor. PS- is it oh so Christian to call people names? How... unsurprising. |
| OP is trolling TF out of this forum. Don't engage. |
Pp is not Op. Lots of people think religion is stupid. Sorry to burst your bubble! |
I was a NP. And you apparently can read so what is your issue with the post just above your latest? I said there is a right to freedom from religion as imposed by the govt but not as expressed by individuals in daily life. Do you agree or disagree? |