a solution to the redshirting debate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will satisfy the anti redshirters here.

I actually really like the anti-redshirters, because it means they would have sympathy for me if they knew I was redshirted. All these years later, my parents still think they acted for the best, whereas I still resent them for not sending me on time.

Have you so few real issues in life that you hold on to resentment for this?

I absolutely have sympathy for you, but not for the reason you think I should.

DP, and I resent my parents for not getting me to skip a grade when it was clear that I should have. My schooling experience would have been MUCH better.

I cannot even imagine having parents who had such a lack of belief in me that they kept me back an extra year because they didn't think I was good enough to keep up with even the average kids my age.

You sound like someone who was a difficult kid who needed more time for social skills. Probably your parents didn't want to try to keep up with other parents and kids with those difficulties. I don't blame them. Get over it. It's all of one year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There shouldn't be a debate. Absent a diagnosed delay or challenge, send your kids to school on time.

Nope. Even if it bothers you.
It’s especially the rich people who do this because they want to eek out every advantage for their child and because they don’t need the free daycare like you do. Rich people can afford to send their kid to a high quality pre-K to mature.
Poor you. The average-dumb just get dumber.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will satisfy the anti redshirters here.

I actually really like the anti-redshirters, because it means they would have sympathy for me if they knew I was redshirted. All these years later, my parents still think they acted for the best, whereas I still resent them for not sending me on time.

Have you so few real issues in life that you hold on to resentment for this?

I absolutely have sympathy for you, but not for the reason you think I should.

DP, and I resent my parents for not getting me to skip a grade when it was clear that I should have. My schooling experience would have been MUCH better.

I cannot even imagine having parents who had such a lack of belief in me that they kept me back an extra year because they didn't think I was good enough to keep up with even the average kids my age.

You sound like someone who was a difficult kid who needed more time for social skills. Probably your parents didn't want to try to keep up with other parents and kids with those difficulties. I don't blame them. Get over it. It's all of one year.

She’s just trying to manipulate other people into not caring for their kids so that her kids will still be ok, despite her lack of care for them. Don’t listen to her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds good to me. There are twins at a public school I will not name who were born in early May and are enormous compared to the others. So ridiculous and everyone talks about it.

I have a five year old who is enormous. Almost the size of my 8 year old. He was born in October and will be starting K. I’m sure people will think he was redshirted. [/quote

Me too. The crap I get from other parents on the soccer field. It doesn't matter what scheme anyone comes up, these parents will still complain about any difference or the 14 month advantage another kid has. This poster needs therapy.

Also the poster with the twisted panties over being red shirted is a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All kids are not school ready at the same time
School involves being in a group, sharing attention, going with the flow and doing things at the same time as other children.
You do not get to climb into a bookshelf in the library when it is time to leave, you do not get to lie on the floor when you feel like, you have to wait for your turn
Your left hand should be able to touch your right ear, when you place your hand over your head. No talking when teacher is speaking

Usually if they are not ready its because their preschool or/and parents have not taught them.

Ok, got it. You're just an ass. You really do need therapy. Why are you obsessed with this? Let us help you.

[Anonymous]

I have a question for all of you who weren't redshirted but didn't like being among the youngest and wished your parents had held you back. Why you didn't you do one of the following?

You could've purposely repeated a grade.

You could've re-classed in high school and graduated a year later.

You could've taken a gap year between high school and college.

You could've taken a year off during college.

If you really wanted to be a year behind where you were, why didn't you do any of these things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds good to me. There are twins at a public school I will not name who were born in early May and are enormous compared to the others. So ridiculous and everyone talks about it.

This says much more about you than the twins or the twins' parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I have a question for all of you who weren't redshirted but didn't like being among the youngest and wished your parents had held you back. Why you didn't you do one of the following?

You could've purposely repeated a grade.

You could've re-classed in high school and graduated a year later.

You could've taken a gap year between high school and college.

You could've taken a year off during college.

If you really wanted to be a year behind where you were, why didn't you do any of these things?

These are excellent questions. But a better one would be, why didn't you pick your birthday better? If you want to be young for grade or old for grade, then stay in longer or be born early. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

I'm all for redshirting but believe older kids need to be compared against kids their age when being considered for special programs like magnets or sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I have a question for all of you who weren't redshirted but didn't like being among the youngest and wished your parents had held you back. Why you didn't you do one of the following?

You could've purposely repeated a grade.

You could've re-classed in high school and graduated a year later.

You could've taken a gap year between high school and college.

You could've taken a year off during college.

If you really wanted to be a year behind where you were, why didn't you do any of these things?

Are you for real? Let’s go through these:

Public schools, by and large, do not retain students any longer. It’s really harmful to their metrics and how they’re “graded” by the state. Kids are pushed forward even if they should probably be held back.

That’s not really a thing unless you can get your parents to pay for private or move you around to different schools. I know one kid who did this for athletic reasons in my grade - we’re talking D1 full ride football scholarship NFL prospect level talent. He went from public 8th grade, to private 9th grade, and then repeated 9th grade back at his regular public school.

Gap year or taking a year off in college is definitely a thing, but by then it doesn’t matter as much. There’s not much difference between an 18 year old freshman and a 19 year old freshman. There is a difference between being newly 5 at the start of Kindergarten and being newly 6. You’re behaving more like the 6 year old now than the 18-19 year old, by the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will satisfy the anti redshirters here.

I actually really like the anti-redshirters, because it means they would have sympathy for me if they knew I was redshirted. All these years later, my parents still think they acted for the best, whereas I still resent them for not sending me on time.

Have you so few real issues in life that you hold on to resentment for this?

I absolutely have sympathy for you, but not for the reason you think I should.

The poster above is a troll. There is a person who is obsessed with redshirting. I don't mean that lightly. The person sincerely needs therapy and if you read enough of these posts you'll see the person is obsessed with any kid having a perceived advantage over their kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will satisfy the anti redshirters here.

I actually really like the anti-redshirters, because it means they would have sympathy for me if they knew I was redshirted. All these years later, my parents still think they acted for the best, whereas I still resent them for not sending me on time.

Have you so few real issues in life that you hold on to resentment for this?

I absolutely have sympathy for you, but not for the reason you think I should.

DP, and I resent my parents for not getting me to skip a grade when it was clear that I should have. My schooling experience would have been MUCH better.

I cannot even imagine having parents who had such a lack of belief in me that they kept me back an extra year because they didn't think I was good enough to keep up with even the average kids my age.

You are a troll. Get therapy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A private school that I am considering for my child has a rule that the child must turn 5 before September 1 (typical) but that a child cannot have turned 6 before July 1st of the year they start K. That way there is only a max of 14 months between the youngest and the oldest.

I like this.

I like it.

I really don't understand the later in the fall or even December cutoffs (I am looking at you New York). Pretty much everyone acknowledges that kindergarten has changed in the last generation. Gone are the days of half-day KG where you spent the few hours you were there learning how to be in school as much as you learned letters, numbers, etc. So it's time to make an update to reflect that.

I think giving the Jul/Aug parents discretion is a good thing - that's probably what most people are doing anyway. People will still whine and want to make exceptions no matter what you do though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirting is super common in my SAHM circle, especially with the youngest child. I think we can all figure out why!

That’s funny. All of the redshirted kids of SAHMs I know are oldest. All of the youngest are sent on time.

+1. I know several families where the kids are two years apart age-wise, but only one year in school. These are families with boy-boy parings and boy-girl. PP< I think we all have a small sample size and you can't generalize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm all for redshirting but believe older kids need to be compared against kids their age when being considered for special programs like magnets or sports.

This is pretty much already the standard. IQ tests are aged-normed. Lots of youth sports have age requirements, too.