a solution to the redshirting debate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they should group K classes by age. If they have 100 kids and five classes, each class would represent an age band.

They balance classes for other reasons such as gender or race, no reason they can't add age to the calculation.

That's not how they balance classes. That's the opposite of balance.

[Anonymous]

There shouldn't be a debate. Absent a diagnosed delay or challenge, send your kids to school on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A private school that I am considering for my child has a rule that the child must turn 5 before September 1 (typical) but that a child cannot have turned 6 before July 1st of the year they start K. That way there is only a max of 14 months between the youngest and the oldest.

I like this.

They do not consider the simple fact of nature that kids mature differently.

[Anonymous]

I'm willing to bet most red-shirted kids are born in July and August anyway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm willing to bet most red-shirted kids are born in July and August anyway?

And September.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm willing to bet most red-shirted kids are born in July and August anyway?

In the public schools this is 100% the case and it’s still not even that common - we’re in FCPS and my DS was redshirted with an August birthday and he and another boy with a September birthday are the only redshirted kids in their class (not sure about other classes). I think the fact that there are no school sports until HS and all the club/rec teams are by age + the fact that AAP testing is age-normed makes redshirting a lot less common. In my case, my DS really did have delays and the extra year was great for him.

In private schools, redshirting is a lot more common from what I understand. Most of the summer birthday boys are held back and some of the girls. And it can also extend into the spring birthdays as well. I think there’s a few posters on these threads who are private school parents who didn’t understand that most summer and some spring birthday kids are held back. So they have a kid with a late summer birthday who’s, like, 3 months younger than the next youngest kid and that makes them stand out. But they’re free to come to public schools where redshirting isn’t so common!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm willing to bet most red-shirted kids are born in July and August anyway?

I actually think most were born between October and December. Summer-born kids were born closer to the middle year, so they're not in danger of being among the youngest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm willing to bet most red-shirted kids are born in July and August anyway?

I actually think most were born between October and December. Summer-born kids were born closer to the middle year, so they're not in danger of being among the youngest.

This doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm willing to bet most red-shirted kids are born in July and August anyway?

I actually think most were born between October and December. Summer-born kids were born closer to the middle year, so they're not in danger of being among the youngest.

This is marking you as a person not from this area. In the DC area and throughout the rest of the US, the school cutoff is generally between 7/31 and 9/30. The only place with an end of the year cutoff is New York and maybe some of the NYC-surrounding areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will satisfy the anti redshirters here.

I actually really like the anti-redshirters, because it means they would have sympathy for me if they knew I was redshirted. All these years later, my parents still think they acted for the best, whereas I still resent them for not sending me on time.

Have you so few real issues in life that you hold on to resentment for this?

I absolutely have sympathy for you, but not for the reason you think I should.

Exactly. Why are you still upset about such a petty issue? I wish I had been held back bc I was one of the youngest and never quite fit in socially even though academically I was at the top of the class.

[Anonymous]

All kids are not school ready at the same time
School involves being in a group, sharing attention, going with the flow and doing things at the same time as other children.
You do not get to climb into a bookshelf in the library when it is time to leave, you do not get to lie on the floor when you feel like, you have to wait for your turn
Your left hand should be able to touch your right ear, when you place your hand over your head. No talking when teacher is speaking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will satisfy the anti redshirters here.

I actually really like the anti-redshirters, because it means they would have sympathy for me if they knew I was redshirted. All these years later, my parents still think they acted for the best, whereas I still resent them for not sending me on time.

Have you so few real issues in life that you hold on to resentment for this?

I absolutely have sympathy for you, but not for the reason you think I should.

I wish I had been held back bc I was one of the youngest and never quite fit in socially even though academically I was at the top of the class.

If you didn't like being one of the youngest, why didn't you purposely repeat a grade, or take a gap year after high school? Falling back is much easier than catching up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All kids are not school ready at the same time
School involves being in a group, sharing attention, going with the flow and doing things at the same time as other children.
You do not get to climb into a bookshelf in the library when it is time to leave, you do not get to lie on the floor when you feel like, you have to wait for your turn
Your left hand should be able to touch your right ear, when you place your hand over your head. No talking when teacher is speaking

Usually if they are not ready its because their preschool or/and parents have not taught them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A private school that I am considering for my child has a rule that the child must turn 5 before September 1 (typical) but that a child cannot have turned 6 before July 1st of the year they start K. That way there is only a max of 14 months between the youngest and the oldest.

I like this.

Must be some kind of crappy private school . The top private schools here want 7 year old kindergartners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A private school that I am considering for my child has a rule that the child must turn 5 before September 1 (typical) but that a child cannot have turned 6 before July 1st of the year they start K. That way there is only a max of 14 months between the youngest and the oldest.

I like this.

Must be some kind of crappy private school . The top private schools here want 7 year old kindergartners.

so, they don't have to teach and they come in with the skills they should have been taught 2 years prior.