Sexualization of women in sport is not good

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Anonymous wrote:You should go to Saudi Arabia or another muslim country and stage a pride night there. Then you can legitimately discuss the "need" for pride night. There is no systemic oppression of LGBT people in this country and there is nothing wrong with PP saying that pride night in unnecessary at Spirit games.

Saying there shouldn't be a Pride Night is in fact oppression.

You apparently are very dumb. No, practicing free speech is not oppression. You have your opinion the other poster has theirs. Have as many Pride nights as you want … the opinion is that they don't agree that a soccer game is a good venue for having one. That is an opinion, and that is all it is. I agree, not because it is "Pride" night, but because it is a sensitive topic that distracts from the primary purpose of the event. Just because someone does not agree with you doesn't mean they are oppressing you. Let's try this one instead. How about a "Pro Life" night one week followed by a "Pro Choice" life the next week? Would that be appropriate for a soccer match? Are how about "NRA" night followed by a "Anti-Gun" night? Can't we just go watch a freaking soccer game and not have people's agenda's and beliefs shoved down our throats? There's enough on the news and internet already, where the hell does one go to escape this barrage of political agendas? For that matter, eliminate the national anthem before a game too. Just too political and has nothing to do with soccer (or any sport for that matter).

For someone who wants to avoid discussing political agendas you seem to really want to discuss political agendas.

Don’t like Pride Night?
Step 1. Stay home on Pride Night
Step 2. Don’t start a thread discussing something that you don’t think needs to be shoved in your face by shoving your bigotry into ours.

If you want to be a bigot, do it the old fashion way and keep it to yourself.

Your kids aren’t gonna catch gay because they saw some Rainbows at a women’s soccer game.

I never said I am anti-gay, but you stupidly jump to that conclusion. The problem is that you’re so anti everyone else that your blinded by your feelings of rage for supossedly being oppressed.

You’re really too simple to understand what I am saying. This forum topic IS exactly for this type of discussion, but a pro soccer match is not. That is my point and my only point, you simpleton. Sports are for sports, and politics are for politics. Keep them separate. I love how if someone doesn’t agree with the use of a sporting event for a political agenda, that they are a biggot. Very logical conclusion ... not. Anyhow, enjoy your myopic and close minded life.

RIGHT?! Like, a pro soccer match is NOT the place to shove all this Star Wars crap in our face. That is my point and my only point. Sports are for sports, and theatrical films are for theatrical films. Keep them separate.

And NURSES' APPRECIATION NIGHT? Seriously? Where's the appreciation for Doctors? Can't we just go watch a freaking soccer game and not have people's career agenda's and beliefs shoved down our throats?

I'm offended by Marvel Superhero Night at the Nats game, personally. What if I like Shazam?

Just such dumb analogies. You’re just proving my point with your simplistic responses. I didn’t realize Star Wars and Marvel and Nurses were political. Nice try though. Btw. The next home game for the Spirit is BOGO “free abortion” night, followed by the bring your semi-automatic autograph night. Now THOSE are political agenda themes. I mean, try to keep on track here folks. Notice I also used both sides of the political spectrum lest I be pigeon holed. Anyhow, this is fun arguing with the soccer nuts on this forum who clearly head butted the ball one too many times. God I’m clever. Luv you.

If you see equality as a "political agenda"...idk what to tell ya, man.

Unfortunately, that is exactly what they see.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can’t deal with a Pride Night, you’re going to have a rough time in women’s soccer.

You are right. Even a USWNT player declined a call up because her religious beliefs conflicted with wearing the "pride" symbols on her jersey. She was stigmatized and attacked for her decision by some. Soccer should not be politicized or used to promote a particular agenda.

You are ridiculous and manipulative both. It’s not going to work out to cancel ‘pride night’. Sexuality is everywhere - cheerleaders at football games? Kissing cams at baseball games? You just don’t like this version of sexuality because you are afraid that your own daughter might be gay. Better that she stifle that and maybe have severe psychological problems, take up drugs or maybe kill herself because she feels uncomfortable in her own skin right? That’s better than you feeling uncomfortable with the idea of your daughter being gay, right? So, suddenly we’re going to stifle all sexuality because it’s not the ‘right’ sexuality in your narrow mind. No. This is exactly why things like Pride night are desperately needed - so that people feel comfortable with themselves even if they are currently living in an intolerant, oppressive environment. Just because you have a child is no reason to take away said child’s basic human rights , even when it involves her choosing her own sexuality. That is 100% hers to choose.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can’t deal with a Pride Night, you’re going to have a rough time in women’s soccer.

+1

Without lesbians, women's soccer wouldn't have any fans.

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Saying pride noght is about sex is like saying going to a wedding is about sex.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying pride noght is about sex is like saying going to a wedding is about sex.

Pride night is about celebrating one’s homosexuality, that it is ok, and that one is proud of it. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual or being proud of it. However, being homosexual or heterosexual IS about sex. It is about a person’s sexual preference. The fact that you don’t grasp this is funny, actually. Also, getting married is a traditional event that legally allows a married couple to have sex, so yes a wedding is about sex, or at least it was. Now you’re right it is about registries, drunken chicken dances and fancy limo rides ... to the hotel ... where guess what the bride and groom (or bride and bride or groom and groom) are probably going to do ...

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Anonymous wrote:Saying pride noght is about sex is like saying going to a wedding is about sex.

Pride night is about celebrating one’s homosexuality, that it is ok, and that one is proud of it. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual or being proud of it. However, being homosexual or heterosexual IS about sex. It is about a person’s sexual preference. The fact that you don’t grasp this is funny, actually. Also, getting married is a traditional event that legally allows a married couple to have sex, so yes a wedding is about sex, or at least it was. Now you’re right it is about registries, drunken chicken dances and fancy limo rides ... to the hotel ... where guess what the bride and groom (or bride and bride or groom and groom) are probably going to do ...

You are still wrong and miss the whole point. Pride night is about celebrating diversity and inclusion. When you stop acting like it is big deal it will stop being one.

When same sex partners are afforded the same rights as hetero couples then there will no longer be a need for a Pride night. But Pride night is more about group identity in the same way that every year there is a Puerto Rican Parade in NYC.

Why are you even sexualizing what a gay couple does in private? Do you take the same time to look at families or couples and sexualize their relationships?

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Anonymous wrote:Saying pride noght is about sex is like saying going to a wedding is about sex.

Pride night is about celebrating one’s homosexuality, that it is ok, and that one is proud of it. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual or being proud of it. However, being homosexual or heterosexual IS about sex. It is about a person’s sexual preference. The fact that you don’t grasp this is funny, actually. Also, getting married is a traditional event that legally allows a married couple to have sex, so yes a wedding is about sex, or at least it was. Now you’re right it is about registries, drunken chicken dances and fancy limo rides ... to the hotel ... where guess what the bride and groom (or bride and bride or groom and groom) are probably going to do ...

You are still wrong and miss the whole point. Pride night is about celebrating diversity and inclusion. When you stop acting like it is big deal it will stop being one.

When same sex partners are afforded the same rights as hetero couples then there will no longer be a need for a Pride night. But Pride night is more about group identity in the same way that every year there is a Puerto Rican Parade in NYC.

Why are you even sexualizing what a gay couple does in private? Do you take the same time to look at families or couples and sexualize their relationships?

“When you stop acting like it is big deal it will stop being one.” I think having a pride night is making a big deal. Anyhow, I am bored with this argument now. On to a different one.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying pride noght is about sex is like saying going to a wedding is about sex.

Pride night is about celebrating one’s homosexuality, that it is ok, and that one is proud of it. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual or being proud of it. However, being homosexual or heterosexual IS about sex. It is about a person’s sexual preference. The fact that you don’t grasp this is funny, actually. Also, getting married is a traditional event that legally allows a married couple to have sex, so yes a wedding is about sex, or at least it was. Now you’re right it is about registries, drunken chicken dances and fancy limo rides ... to the hotel ... where guess what the bride and groom (or bride and bride or groom and groom) are probably going to do ...

No, it's not about sex anymore than a wedding is about sex.

It is not illegal to have sex before marriage.

It's about celebrating that people are allowed to love who they want to love... Just like Jesus intended.

And the greatest of these is love.

You know what the will do? Care for each other in sickness and health.

My vows did not include sex, did yours? To bang each other weekly? No!

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Anonymous wrote:If you can’t deal with a Pride Night, you’re going to have a rough time in women’s soccer.

You are right. Even a USWNT player declined a call up because her religious beliefs conflicted with wearing the "pride" symbols on her jersey. She was stigmatized and attacked for her decision by some. Soccer should not be politicized or used to promote a particular agenda.

You are ridiculous and manipulative both. It’s not going to work out to cancel ‘pride night’. Sexuality is everywhere - cheerleaders at football games? Kissing cams at baseball games? You just don’t like this version of sexuality because you are afraid that your own daughter might be gay. Better that she stifle that and maybe have severe psychological problems, take up drugs or maybe kill herself because she feels uncomfortable in her own skin right? That’s better than you feeling uncomfortable with the idea of your daughter being gay, right? So, suddenly we’re going to stifle all sexuality because it’s not the ‘right’ sexuality in your narrow mind. No. This is exactly why things like Pride night are desperately needed - so that people feel comfortable with themselves even if they are currently living in an intolerant, oppressive environment. Just because you have a child is no reason to take away said child’s basic human rights , even when it involves her choosing her own sexuality. That is 100% hers to choose.

What's so manipulative about stating facts? A young talented woman felt that wearing pride symbols conflicted with her religious beliefs and declined a USMNT call up, when she was told she would have to wear pride symbols. Do you realized how hard she had to work to earn it? Do you realize how much an athlete wants to wear the national team jersey? When you leave your metero DC bubble, you will realize that there is a diversity of views on these issues. They don't have pride nights at soccer games in Europe or South America. Divisive issues are bad for business and detract from the game.

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I meant to say USWNT.

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Is the UEFA "No to racism" campaign "political" and "divisive?"

Chelsea FC had a "No to Antisemitism" campaign -- was that "political" and "divisive?"

Only in America, eh?

Let go of the fantasy that sports can exist in a vacuum that's somehow apart from society, apart from culture, suspended in some fantasyland where racism only exists so long as blacks and brown people complain about it, where there would be no sexism if women would stop harping on things, and the only reason for LGBTQ+ backlash are those infernal parades.

Sports to sports and politics to politics is pretty much a perfect rallying cry of -- yah you hate this word but if the shoe fits -- privilege. You don't wanna have to deal for one soccer game with issues that others have to deal with every. single. day. Boo hoo.

Man up, Buttercup.

PS. Sexualization of women from a "same sex perspective" would be, e.g., using pictures of scantily-clad women players to sell tickets to lesbians. For example. Do your nine year old a favor and educate yourself on the topic.