The REAL issue with the proposals to shift boundaries & how MCPS can fix it

[Anonymous]

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No the argument is that homeowners have a reasonable expectation of stability when a school is a major, if not the greatest determinate factor when choosing a house. Anything else destabilizes the market, causes real financial pain and robs people of their choices. All for some pie-in-the-sky theory that sending my kid to your school will make that school better. I mean I'm flattered that you think my kid will help (she must have some innate quality that the students there don't have), but I doubt that she will solve systematic poverty and lack of parental education. However, what is not in question is that property values will drop in the affected area. The market may be irrational, but it does what it does and real people will lose real money here. Then in 10 years when all the high SES people migrate to the still (or newly) high performing school clusters and the SJW's begin screaming again, we'll have to do it all over... Wouldn't it be just easier to fix the actual problems rather than acquiesce to the unreasonable demands of some teenagers?

And they've got it! You live in Montgomery County, the expectation is an MCPS school.

Otherwise the argument is that we must maintain a harmful distortion in the housing market because some people might lose money if we don't.

There's no "harmful" distortion. People with means will always filter to the best schools - just the way it is. The only distortion is trying to carve some of them off against their will.

If people really stand to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars from getting rezoned from this school to that school, then yes, it absolutely is a harmful distortion. Because rezonings are a thing that happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No the argument is that homeowners have a reasonable expectation of stability when a school is a major, if not the greatest determinate factor when choosing a house. Anything else destabilizes the market, causes real financial pain and robs people of their choices. All for some pie-in-the-sky theory that sending my kid to your school will make that school better. I mean I'm flattered that you think my kid will help (she must have some innate quality that the students there don't have), but I doubt that she will solve systematic poverty and lack of parental education. However, what is not in question is that property values will drop in the affected area. The market may be irrational, but it does what it does and real people will lose real money here. Then in 10 years when all the high SES people migrate to the still (or newly) high performing school clusters and the SJW's begin screaming again, we'll have to do it all over... Wouldn't it be just easier to fix the actual problems rather than acquiesce to the unreasonable demands of some teenagers?

And they've got it! You live in Montgomery County, the expectation is an MCPS school.

Otherwise the argument is that we must maintain a harmful distortion in the housing market because some people might lose money if we don't.

There's no "harmful" distortion. People with means will always filter to the best schools - just the way it is. The only distortion is trying to carve some of them off against their will.

It sounds like you'd be better off cashing in on your house before the markets change, buying in a lower COL area, and using the profits to pay for private school.

[Anonymous]

It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

Wow. Really. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

We are thinking of selling now while prices are high and renting for a few years until it all shakes out. Then we may even be able to “buy low” in another area where market values will increase due to the boundary changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

Wow. Really. Just wow.

My child is not your social experiment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

We are thinking of selling now while prices are high and renting for a few years until it all shakes out. Then we may even be able to “buy low” in another area where market values will increase due to the boundary changes.

Honestly, probably smart, especially if you are in an area likely to be rezoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

Wow. Really. Just wow.

My child is not your social experiment.

I am going to point out, here, that lots and lots and lots of parents send their children to schools you think of as failing schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

We are thinking of selling now while prices are high and renting for a few years until it all shakes out. Then we may even be able to “buy low” in another area where market values will increase due to the boundary changes.

Honestly, probably smart, especially if you are in an area likely to be rezoned.

I also think you could balance a potential loss in Garrett Park by buying an “investment” property in Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

The crazy lady who thinks someone is trying to take her kids shows up in all these repetitive boundaries threads.
Lady, nobody is coming for your kids.

[Anonymous]

I am going to point out, here, that lots and lots and lots of parents send their children to schools you think of as failing schools.

It is a free country. They chose those schools. We chose other schools.

No one is buying the myth that mixing up schools will improve the low SES achievement in any measurable way. It is simply a class war, run by people who lost their voice in the national policy decisions with the change of administration. That is why this social equity rezoning is only happening in MCPS. It is not a national trend. We just have this subpopulation of people who lost the ability to have a national voice, and have moved their efforts locally. I fully anticipate that they are coaching their kids to ride this wave into the Ivies, too. Hereditary politicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.


We are thinking of selling now while prices are high and renting for a few years until it all shakes out. Then we may even be able to “buy low” in another area where market values will increase due to the boundary changes.


Honestly, probably smart, especially if you are in an area likely to be rezoned.


I also think you could balance a potential loss in Garrett Park by buying an “investment” property in Wheaton.

Wheaton is not improving. An investment property if you buy something run down and just rent it out for the rental income and tax break could make sense but don't count on any appreciation.

If DCC folks are pushing this agenda because they think that their property values will go up then they are foolish. Wheaton is likely to only appreciate if the areas with better schools are not affordable. Wheaton doesn't become better because BCC goes down. BCC becomes more affordable and fewer people are forced to settle for Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a pure power struggle.

Since no normal parent will ever send their child to a failing school, it is all about money. No one will ever compromise their child's education. If we are rezoned, we are moving. If the house drops too much value, we will declare bankruptsy and move.

You can change boundaries, maybe, but you will never get our kids.

The crazy lady who thinks someone is trying to take her kids shows up in all these repetitive boundaries threads.
Lady, nobody is coming for your kids.

It is my signature. It resonates, and it is true.

[Anonymous]

All craziness aside, there are beautiful homes with wealthy or UMC families living in them throughout the DCC. Those families often send their kids to private schools. I’d hope the consultant will review that and gain an understanding of why the won’t send their kids to the public schools in their communities. Why can’t MCPS attract them back to their neighborhood schools? What changes/improvements could they make to get those families —and there are a lot of them — to go public?

That said, I think there will still need to be some boundary adjustments - but why would wealthy/UMC need to be bussed in to achieve equity when many in that income category already live there?

[Anonymous]

All craziness aside, there are beautiful homes with wealthy or UMC families living in them throughout the DCC. Those families often send their kids to private schools. I’d hope the consultant will review that and gain an understanding of why the won’t send their kids to the public schools in their communities. Why can’t MCPS attract them back to their neighborhood schools? What changes/improvements could they make to get those families —and there are a lot of them — to go public?

That said, I think there will still need to be some boundary adjustments - but why would wealthy/UMC need to be bussed in to achieve equity when many in that income category already live there?

This already exists. Why do you think TPMS has 25 seats set aside for easier admission? Its to try to keep some of the families from fleeing to private schools. Why do you think MCPS has been opening all the special magnets in the DCC? The seats are not being filled by low income kids. Its all there to try to get the wealthier kids back into the schools. It works for the limited number of seats but doesn't do anything beyond this.

UMC is a relative term too. The UMC families in the DCC are really not that wealthy. Private school is a stretch for many of them yet as long as they can afford it they will go. What could drive more UMC families back into the DCC schools though will be their inability to afford privates. Younger families are carrying more student debt and inflation to wage growth has reduced people's accessible income. When MoCo taxes go up again, this will take out another chunk of their ability to pay for private. If MCPS messes with other boundaries, you'll see more people apply to private schools which will edge up the tuition.