Rock n Play Recall- alternatives?
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Anonymous
To be clear, 30 deaths, 4.7 million RnPs. Assuming a 1to1 baby to RnP ratio (which must severely underestimate it) that is a .00064% chance of death. Lower than the rate of unexplained SIDS. |
Anonymous
| Some people are sure so attached to the rock and play they are willing to use a recalled product that caused the deaths of 32 babies. |
Anonymous
Yeah some people understand relative risk. Do you put your kid in a carseat? If yes then you have used a product that caused the deaths of 34 infants due to positional asphyxiation since 2015. |
Anonymous
+1 I don’t see a big push for recalling swings, car seats, or strollers...all of which can result in positional asphyxiation if improperly used. |
Anonymous
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Luckily DS is long past the infant stage but the RNP was an absolute life saver for us. I remember breaking out that puppy on our second day home from the hospital. DS refused to sleep in his bassinet and wouldn't stop crying. That thing was a game changer.
But I remember one day I had him in it in my bedroom and I noticed that he seemed to be trying to roll to one side and I knew that was it. I never put him in it again. |
Anonymous
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I might still use the RNP for baby #2. I’ll try the crib first but baby #1 wouldn’t sleep more than 20 minutes swaddled on a flat surface. Husband was back at work and taking work trips starting at day 3. I was exclusively pumping and so had to pump through some of baby’s naps. No one to help. It was RNP or try to live on maybe 3 or 4 naps a day that were about 5 mins long. And try to not to doze off while holding baby when that sleep deprived. That level of sleep deprivation seemed by far more dangerous than the slightly increased risk of positional asphyxiation in the RNP. If facing the same calculus with baby #2, I’d do it again.
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Anonymous
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I have never seen people so against a recall in my life.
Roll a receiving blanket and put under your crib mattress for a safe incline if your baby has reflux and get over yourselves good god. There are ways to use that fancy crib of yours! This product is not the end all be all and you are not the only person who has kids who don’t/didn’t sleep. |
Anonymous
| The RnP defenders are starting to sound like the old people that go “back in my time we never used car seats/ put babies to sleep on their tummy/ get booster shots) and look you turned out ok! So what? Know better do better. |
Anonymous
What about more than half the deaths were after 2016? Or that there were an additional 700 injuries that just didn’t lead to quite death. https://www.cliffordlaw.com/controversial-fisher-price-sleep-bed-subject-of-at-least-30-infant-deaths/ |
Anonymous
My pediatrician told us to do this, and our preemie ended up rolling down the incline in the mini crib, and we found him in odd positions. It was definitely not safer. |
Anonymous
I've seen this a few times in these threads-the idea of an incline is a SLIGHT incline, not this / it should be slight, not so much that a newborn can roll down it! SLIGHT incline, people! a SLIGHT incline in a crib, with no blankets or stuffed animals, is the SAFEST sleep for reflux. I had my older kids before the RNP came along, and my dd after (4). I took one look at it and decided against buying it-I mean it doesn't even LOOK safe for sleep to me. It looks like a bag of smothering material. |
Anonymous
Give me the data on 700 injuries from someone other than am ambulance chasing law firm. Your the only person I've seen claiming that half happened after 2016. |
Anonymous
The Wall Street Journal reported on 700 injuries and that 16 deaths happened after Sept 2016. https://www.wsj.com/articles/infant-sleep-deaths-in-focus-in-fight-over-role-of-consumer-safety-agency-1542974400 And here's description of the deaths from consumer reports and almost near deaths. Nothing to do with not following instructions or the child being above 3 months. But go on and defend this unsafe product. https://www.consumerreports.org/recalls/fisher-price-rock-n-play-sleeper-should-be-recalled-consumer-reports-says/ The earliest death that CR uncovered occurred in 2011, with more in the years that followed. There is, for example, the mother in Hidalgo County, Texas, who placed her 2-month old daughter on her back for a night’s sleep on Oct. 19, 2013, according to a lawsuit filed by the family against Fisher-Price. At 4 a.m., when the mother checked, all was well, but by 7 a.m., the baby had stopped breathing. Her head was tilted to the side with her chin on her shoulder, compressing her airway. She was pronounced dead at the scene from positional asphyxia, or an inability to breathe caused by her position. The most recent deaths CR found occurred in spring 2018—one involving a 1-month-old girl in Knoxville, Tenn., and the other a 9-day-old boy in Copperas Cove, Texas. There have also been some close calls. In one, on July 25, 2014, a 7-week-old boy was placed in a Rock ’n Play Sleeper while his grandmother was in the room, according to a lawsuit filed against Fisher-Price that was ultimately dismissed. The grandmother, Jan Hinson, of Greenville, S.C., says she looked at her grandson and saw he was “cocked over all the way, and he was blue and lifeless. It was absolutely awful.” She got the infant breathing again, and after a stay in the hospital, he was released. Hinson, who is also a lawyer, is now representing a Virginia couple, Evan and Keenan Overton, whose son died while in a Rock ’n Play Sleeper. A few days before Christmas in 2017, 5-month-old Ezra was asleep in the product while Keenan slept on a couch nearby. When Keenan woke in the middle of the night, he found Ezra on his stomach, unresponsive, and yelled for Evan to call 911. “He was blue, and his body was, it was hard, and he didn’t feel real,” Evan said. Ezra was pronounced dead at the hospital; “asphyxia” was listed as the immediate cause of death. (The Overtons say Ezra was buckled in the sleeper, though the death certificate states the baby was unrestrained.) |
Anonymous
Very much agree. I never used RnP sleeper because I thought it was cheaply made and didn't like how it positioned baby's head. I returned mine he say after I put together- oh and the mold issues that came up in the news grossed me out too. I did use stomach sleeping with my first at 5 weeks old out of desperation. I also used an Angelcare monitor because I was so paranoid about SIDS. She slept great on her stomach. I didn't even hesitate with my other two. I put them on their stomachs also at about 5-6 weeks old when I just couldn't get them to sleep swaddles and flat on their backs. I believe stomach sleeping in an an empty crib with firm mattress is MUCH safer than an infant sleeping in a RnP, swing, car seat, bouncer, or on the couch or arm chair with exhausted parent or co-sleeping in your bed. |
Anonymous
| It's officially been recalled. Crazy. I wonder if there will be a black market for the things. |